Model Arvida Byström gets rape threats after an advert featured her hairy legs - Sensationalist Headlines

[IMG]http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/EAA2/production/_98166006_96e063e4-16dd-421c-98c7-951d6bc2b0e8.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]The 26-year-old featured in an Adidas campaign promoting a new brand of trainers.She received dozens of abusive messages after the advert was [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elDe_kHYTb8"]released on YouTube[/URL]. In an Instagram post, which is getting more and more attention, she says she was also threatened with rape in direct messages on social media. She said: "My photo from the @adidasoriginals superstar campaign got a lot of nasty comments last week. "Me being such an abled, white, cis body with its only nonconforming feature being a lil leg hair. "Literally I've been getting rape threats in my DM inbox." As well as being a model, Arvida is a photographer and is well known for posing with her body hair on show. Adidas says she "questions femininity and gender standards using so-called 'girly' aesthetics". The model, who turned 26 on Wednesday, is being backed by her followers on Instagram. Brian said: "As a human being, I'm male in case u can't tell, I don't see the problem w hairy legs. It's there for a reason." Linonono writes: "You should decide for yourself if you shave or not. Or what else to do with your body." Ina adds: "I don't get the hairy legs but if you feel happy and well in your mind that's great. Do what you want."[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41522160/model-arvida-bystrm-gets-rape-threats-after-an-advert-featured-her-hairy-legs[/url] I mean I don't find it attractive, but what the fuck is wrong with people? Rape threats?

Let a girl live, damn. Some girls wanna rock the hair. Who cares. People are gross.

i am disgusted by you and find you unattractive so i am going to have sex with you :badzing:

Funny enough, people like that are exactly why this is seen as activism; Women have to fight back against horrible threats just to show off their natural bodies.

[QUOTE=Pernoccuous;52757946]i am disgusted by you and find you unattractive so i am going to have sex with you :badzing:[/QUOTE] In many cases, rape is simply about control and not desire.

"Lol rape culture isn't a thing" "We don't need feminism"

Ah, I follow her on Instagram, she's a super sharp artist. How stupid can you be to send death threats over something so banal.

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;52758024]"Lol rape culture isn't a thing" "We don't need feminism"[/QUOTE] How do you extrapolate from some fucks making rape threats to the entire culture tolerating it?

Judging from this one image, she looks fine. What's wrong with a bit of hair? Makes me think people who like a bit of hair on their SO can work both ways. Pretty vial to get worked up over a model with some leg hair. [QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;52757985]In many cases, rape is simply about control and not desire.[/QUOTE] Reminds me of that one Family Guy cutaway #2,235 about a TV show starring a model and a rapist living together. "It's not about sex! It's about power!" *wink*

The weird thing about having little body hair is that most women, including this one, have more leg hair than I do.

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;52758024]"Lol rape culture isn't a thing" "We don't need feminism"[/QUOTE] Culture implies widespread support. A few fucks on the internet are not widespread.

[QUOTE=DrDevil;52758070]How do you extrapolate from some fucks making rape threats to the entire culture tolerating it?[/QUOTE] Rape culture, in the context of most developed countries, is less about openly tolerating it, and more about subtle tendencies, biases, and attitudes that normalize it. I don't mean to turn this into yet another Trump thread, but the example is too pertinent not to use. There was widespread outrage over the pussy tape, which is a good sign, and yet, many dismissed it as "locker room talk", even here on FP. That's what rape culture is. It's not necessarily a defining trait of every community in every area of the country. It's not necessarily popular within mainstream political discourse, either. But it's there, it has strong roots where it exists, and it's easily overlooked when the bias isn't as obvious as in my example.

On topic of the note. [QUOTE]She said: "My photo from the @adidasoriginals superstar campaign got a lot of nasty comments last week. "Me being such an abled, white, cis body with its only nonconforming feature being a lil leg hair.[/QUOTE] This is another shit that miserable people do that annoys the living fuck out of me. People who think like this: "Oh she must be so privileged, being white, abled and her only bad and unique thing being some hair of her legs" "She is so privileged, she probably doesn't mind being harassed". - This is the temperament of miserable people and that applies to anyone no matter where they live. I don't understand why the internet (and just people in general, because a lot of people in real life do this too) began with this habit of over entitlement and projectig negative traits on people who have literally done nothing against them just because "They're white, cis, wealthy and/or have some sort of privilege I don't have". I don't know if the internet is full of manchildren, but where I came from I deal with this type of shit quite often and I learned how to come in terms with it. Just because someone appears to be more privileged than me, it doesn't always mean that they actually live that way. Just because someone is having an easier time than me, doesn't mean their lives are easier. Life isn't some game of rich happy people picking on poor miserable people. Just because someone is white doesn't mean that they're racist or priviledged, there are poor white people too and white people are discriminated against too. Just because someone is cis doesn't meant they're transphobic, people shouldn't feel guilty for feeling satisfied with their gender and it shouldn't be a bad thing to begin with. Just because someone is phyiscally capable of doing things doesn't mean they hate disabled people and people shouldn't feel inferior or guilty because they aren't disabled. Nobody should be victim of harassment just because they are born with certain skin color, indentify themselves as a certain gender, because of their physical capacities and their social class, and this goes both ways. Rich/poor people don't deserve to be robbed just because they're rich/. White/black people don't deserve to be discriminated against just because their skin color. Cis/trans people don't derserve to be harassed just because they identify as their gender. Abled/disabled people don't deserve to be harassaed just because they are physically capable or not. People who can't understand this are stupid, period and this comes from a brown skinned mexican, so there is no "privilege card at play" bullshit.

[QUOTE=The golden;52758145] Yeah, no. It's a lot more than "a few fucks on the internet." Sexual harassment and assault is a serious serious issue for women around the world. Raising awareness of these issues is one of the major aspects of the feminist movement.[/QUOTE] You need to demonstrate that rape and rape threats are considered acceptable with a significant part of the population before you can say that. In the case of the Western world it's considered disgusting and certainly not tolerated. I'd be shocked if you could find a double digit percentage support for rape. Backwaters like the Middle East and Africa are a different matter.

[QUOTE=download;52758226]You need to demonstrate that rape and rape threats are considered acceptable with a significant part of the population before you can say that. In the case of the Western world it's considered disgusting and certainly not tolerated. Backwaters like the Middle East and Africa are a different matter.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say that all of the Western World, well at the least not in the country where I live. In Mexico there is a lot of victim blaming with rape situations being the main target of it. Everytime a woman is raped and killed, it doesn't take too long for shitty people to show up and complain about it and blaming the victim for what happened. "She shouldn't have been walking alone at night" "She shouldn't have been wearing revealing clothes" "She shouldn't have gotten those guys horny if she didn't want them to rape her". Note that these type of comments and arguments don't always come from your average, ignorant citizen. I've heard people working at professional levels and inside schools saying this sort of bullshit. If people who are victims of a crime in Mexico are already treated like crap by authorities and humiliated by the population, just try to imagine the way rape victims are treated. If you live in a "progressive" part of the US then you probably won't encounter people like that, but try to walk into shitholes or even out of the US and you will actually encounter people who have this "culture". Most of Latin America/South America has this sort of shit too.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Nikolai;52758245]snip[/QUOTE] Sorry, but nations in the grips of a civil war with drug cartels aren't part of the Western world.

I don't see "rape culture" as a classification of an already existing culture such as "Western/American culture is rape culture" so much as a subset of individuals - in this case, a bunch of nerds on the internet - who have created their own culture centered around excusing rape and thinking it's okay. Which is obviously bad.

[QUOTE=download;52758248]Sorry, but nations in the grips of a civil war with drug cartels aren't part of the Western world.[/QUOTE] Its still in the west.

[QUOTE=download;52758248]Sorry, but nations in the grips of a civil war with drug cartels aren't part of the Western world.[/QUOTE] By definition they are. Activities done by criminal organizations are a completely different topic, they are way too busy killing each other to fuck around with the normal population. Which means that most of the muggers, rapists and shitty people you see on the streets aren't cartel members but normal citizens who believe that is completely justified commiting crimes because they think life owes them something or that others live easier than them. Rapists exist everywhere, so are people who enable them and even celebrate them. It's just that we produce industrial quantities of those people (which isn't something to be proud of, not even ironically). Rape culture exists in the Western World, just not in first world countries and even then, there are subtle forms of it. In a place where nothing ever happens or whatsoever, feminism is meanigless because there isn't an actual huge threat out there which deserves to be opposed. But in shitholes where shit always happens, these kind of movements would really help us out because the population lacks basic human values that people in developed countries have. A person who lives in a wealthy area, with access to education and understanding of empathy and respect, in a first world country. If they were given the opportunity to rape, they probably wouldn't do it. But grab a person from here, who lacks education, empathy and common sense, living in a country where corruption is seen as normal. If you put them in the same situation is extremely likely that they will do it. Not all of the western world is civilized. [QUOTE]I don't see "rape culture" as a classification of an already existing culture such as "Western/American culture is rape culture" so much as a subset of individuals - in this case, a bunch of nerds on the internet - who have created their own culture centered around excusing rape and thinking it's okay. Which is obviously bad.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't call it exactly rape culture either, I think that this behaivor isn't only related to rape situations but to corruption in general. There are subsets of individuals who are raised in conditions where these things are seen as normal or acceptable, so they start to believe that their negative actions or opinions are valid and completely justified and when they face opposition, they create arguments in which they are the victims to justify it. Doesn't only happens with rape, but with a lot of things. As I have said above, there are people who believe that harassing or attacking others is justified if the person has some sort of privilege that puts them above them. Wether if it's because they're from certain skin color, socio-economic class, gender or position of power, or the other way around, they believe it's justified because the victim is more vulnerable than them and thus could get away with it. Nobody is born a criminal, even less a rapist. These people obviously grab their ideas by hanging out or receiving influece from people who let them think and behave this way, as always, behind every ill-intentioned person out there, there are lots of negative influences and bad friendships.

[QUOTE=download;52758248]Sorry, but nations in the grips of a civil war with drug cartels aren't part of the Western world.[/QUOTE] your nation is both in the eastern hemisphere and 99% post apocalyptic desert wasteland but it's still generally considered part of ""the western world"" standards aren't exactly high

[QUOTE=Pascall;52758261]I don't see "rape culture" as a classification of an already existing culture such as "Western/American culture is rape culture" so much as a subset of individuals - in this case, a bunch of nerds on the internet - who have created their own culture centered around excusing rape and thinking it's okay. Which is obviously bad.[/QUOTE] but it's easier to dismiss it with "rape culture? bad apples don't represent our culture! haha zing!"

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52758310]your nation is both in the eastern hemisphere and 99% post apocalyptic desert wasteland but it's still generally considered part of ""the western world"" standards aren't exactly high[/QUOTE] Maybe you should look up what Western Nations are before embarrassing yourself.

Culture doesn't just apply to nationality, or a nation. Rather, multiple can coexist in one place as subsets. Just because not everyone in a nation believe something, doesn't mean that belief doesn't have a presence. Particular attitudes can develop in certain social groups, and not in others.

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;52758024]"Lol rape culture isn't a thing" "We don't need feminism"[/QUOTE] We don't we need equality feminism isn't about equality.

[QUOTE=download;52758226]You need to demonstrate that rape and rape threats are considered acceptable with a significant part of the population before you can say that. In the case of the Western world it's considered disgusting and certainly not tolerated. I'd be shocked if you could find a double digit percentage support for rape. Backwaters like the Middle East and Africa are a different matter.[/QUOTE] one in five women in the US are victims of rape or attempted rape is that high enough to meet your arbitrary threshold

[QUOTE=coldroll5;52758363]We don't we need equality feminism isn't about equality.[/QUOTE] That's a lie perpetrated by anti-feminist edgelords. Feminism is literally about equality of genders. Do some research.

So, in my humble opinion: Rape culture [B]isn't[/B] a bunch of edgelord weebs screeching rape on the Internet at things they don't like. Rape culture [B]is[/B] mothers telling their daughters, with a straight face: not to wear revealing clothes; don't walk down dark alleyways; and never travel alone at night. And all the while, they don't even once stop to think about the ramifications of the world they're describing, by doing so. Rape culture [B]isn't[/B] pathetic, depraved men thinking they're entitled to sex, or using sex as a tool of power and control. Rape culture [B]is[/B] the collection of ideas in our cultures' mind that makes us think "This is just the way the world is" without batting an eyelash at it or considering it in any way strange. I think everyone can agree these comments are vile, and I think most people will agree that most of these commenters don't mean it in a literal sense - they're just angry (for inane, petty reasons) and are trying to think of the most vile and hurtful things they can say to express that anger. And threatening rape against a woman is certainly one of the most vile and hurtful things I can think of that they could say. But that, by its very nature, makes people stop and think about it, and think about how terrible it is. That is the point, after all, of them saying it - they're angry, and they want everyone to know that they are angry. It is antithetical to the subtle and subversive nature of how other ideas of rape just settle in our collective minds as "simple fact", like the aforementioned mothers warning their daughters about going out at night. I won't argue that there is no rape culture in the Western world. But I would argue that this is not an example of it.

[QUOTE=Loth;52758420]That's a lie perpetrated by anti-feminist edgelords. Feminism is literally about equality of genders. Do some research.[/QUOTE] That [I]really[/I] depends on the feminists involved. Regarding most people you're right I think, but a lot of high-profile activists are either sexist or use it as a shield to get away with their own harmful behaviour. I do think we need feminism/egalitarianism/whatever, but you shouldn't see it as undifferentiated blob you can judge as a single group.

The existance of a rape culture is undeniable, girls get raped at least 10 times as often as guys do, in every country. That difference isn't entirely caused by testosterone. And it's extremely important to understand the social causes of that to fight rape and keep the discussion open. And some idiots on youtube saying "feminism ruins society" because buzzfeed made a shitty video are completely missing the point and being dishonest.

[QUOTE=Loth;52758442]The existance of a rape culture is undeniable, girls get raped at least 10 times as often as guys do, in every country. That difference isn't entirely caused by testosterone. And it's extremely important to understand the social causes of that to fight rape and keep the discussion open. And some idiots on youtube saying "feminism ruins society" because buzzfeed made a shitty video are completely missing the point and being dishonest.[/QUOTE] Ok, and how is that? Do you think rapists who grew up in western world culture don't know that rape is bad (or that at the very least other people think it's bad)? How do you plan on preventing rapists who plan on raping people from raping them? What sort of social causes are there that cause rapists to be rapists, other than their own will?