Scottish Anglican Church joins American & Canadian churches in having sanctions for gay marriage - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]The Anglican church in Scotland is to face de facto sanctions imposed by global church leaders next week for its acceptance of same-sex marriage. Leaders of the global Anglican communion, meeting for five days in Canterbury, are expected to impose “consequences” on the Scottish Episcopal church along the lines of the punitive measures dished out to the US Episcopal church last year for its embrace of LGBTI equality. [B] The measures include a bar on membership of representational bodies and an exclusion from decisions on policy.[/B] Scottish Anglicans voted overwhelmingly in June in favor of allowing same-sex couples to marry in church, setting the church on a collision course with the Anglican communion. The Anglican church in Canada is expected to follow suit.[/quote] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/27/scottish-anglican-church-faces-sanctions-over-vote-to-allow-same-sex-marriage[/url]

As a Scot, I can safely say that the Anglican church does not want to have anything to do with the larger church system nor does it give a fuck about any sanctions, it is not a financial body, but simply a beacon of community with relation to Christianity.

Wasn't one of the reasons the Anglican church originally formed was to be a kind of "fuck you" to the centralized church in Rome? Dontcha think individual churches should then be able to do whatever the fuck they want

[QUOTE=Desaster56;52726117]Wasn't one of the reasons the Anglican church originally formed was to be a kind of "fuck you" to the centralized church in Rome? Dontcha think individual churches should then be able to do whatever the fuck they want[/QUOTE] No, it was formed because King Henry VIII wanted a divorce and the Pope said no. There was really no other larger reason to break other than that.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52726165]No, it was formed because King Henry VIII wanted a divorce and the Pope said no. There was really no other larger reason to break other than that.[/QUOTE] [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/aZJqwwd.jpg[/thumb]

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52726165]No, it was formed because King Henry VIII wanted a divorce and the Pope said no. There was really no other larger reason to break other than that.[/QUOTE] It's a little more complicated than that, as it resulted in a pretty sizeable power shift in Europe AND it allowed Henry to enact the Dissolution of the Monastaries, which meant he could go about looting all the treasure in England that wasn't held by the Crown. Henry had a taste for fine living and war and that shit wasn't cheap.

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;52734275]It's a little more complicated than that, as it resulted in a pretty sizeable power shift in Europe AND it allowed Henry to enact the Dissolution of the Monastaries, which meant he could go about looting all the treasure in England that wasn't held by the Crown. Henry had a taste for fine living and war and that shit wasn't cheap.[/QUOTE] And Henry had a very big ego, and didn't like the idea of having a Pope above him. His main theological reason for the break was because of his belief in divine right - kings are God's appointed lieutenants on earth, and anyone who puts the Pope above his King is going against that

I doubt they'll pay any attention, the church in this country is rapidly becoming irrelevant and if they turn around and suddenly reject gay marriage they'll push even more people away from them.

Baffles and amuses me to no end that the Vatican thinks any church in England gives a single shimmering shit about their bullshit. Or that the Church holds any power here in general.

The Church of England goes a bit deeper than Henry wanting to remarry. England did not want to be tied down to a foreign institution it believed was corrupt, being allowed to read the bible English was another legitimate reason - as many believed the Pope and his priests hid the truth; John Wycliffe believed Englishmen needed to read the scriptures for themselves to get it. In fact England was one the first nation to to translate the bible to something that was not Latin, and with the help of people like William Tyndale it was available to the common man. The protestant movement grew rapidly and began challenging the Catholic faith in England, denouncing things like the need for bread & wine, monkhood, penance, its greed and control it had on the state, telling nobles they could pay away their sins etc - they believed most of the Catholic doctrine was made up bullshit, and there was a reason the church kept it all hidden in Latin and among monks (a secret society controlling Europe in short). Henry took an opportunity from a growing movement for political cause, and it's speculated on advice from Thomas Cromwell (a man who believed in the state first).

[QUOTE=Chris Morris;52736483]Baffles and amuses me to no end that the Vatican thinks any church in England gives a single shimmering shit about their bullshit. Or that the Church holds any power here in general.[/QUOTE] What does the Vatican have to do with the article's story here? This is purely internal of the Anglican Church

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52737325]What does the Vatican have to do with the article's story here? This is purely internal of the Anglican Church[/QUOTE] I'm stupid.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52726165]No, it was formed because King Henry VIII wanted a divorce and the Pope said no. There was really no other larger reason to break other than that.[/QUOTE] That might have been the immediate cause, but there was an underlying support for separation that existed long prior to Henry's decision.