[quote]When music teacher Dan Fabbio was diagnosed with a brain tumour, he was concerned about losing not only his livelihood but one of his greatest passions in life during the surgery to remove it.
The tumour was located near the part of the brain responsible for music function — so a team of physicians, scientists and a music professor came up with a novel way of ensuring Mr Fabbio did not lose his musical abilities.
The result? Mr Fabbio awake and serenading surgeons with a saxophone solo — while undergoing brain surgery.
Mr Fabbio was initially referred to Web Pilcher, a neurosurgeon at the University of Rochester Medical Centre.
"When I met Dan for the first time, he expressed how concerned he was about losing his musical ability, because this frankly was the most important thing to him in his life, not only his livelihood, but his profession and his interest in life," Dr Pilcher said.[/quote]
[url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-04/musician-plays-saxophone-while-surgeons-remove-brain-tumour/8868960[/url]
Thought this was common during brain surgery. They'd have the patient do a complex task/hobby and stop cutting if they start having trouble with it to make sure they don't scrape away too much brain.
Still pretty cool nonetheless. I still find it weird how you can be conscious during brain surgery since the brain doesn't have any pain receptors.
That's pretty clever. I wonder how much they'd allow similar experiences for. I can't imagine they'd let a chef prepare a meal while having a tumor removed, since even in this case he had very little ability to move, but say you had a professional esports player, would they allow them Quake on a laptop if they had a tumor near whatever part of the brain that controls ability to effectively use a keyboard and mouse?
when do we get a starcraft tournament that's only open to people actively undergoing brain surgery
I don't understand how the guy could just play a sax like they're not doing anything even though they're literally picking at his exposed brain, I'd be way too freaked out to even try anything if I was in his shoes, hell I just have the shakes thinking about it
brain surgery as a concept is terrifying enough for me
but the idea of like "hey, if i start to get worse at this thing then maybe stop cutting bits of my brain out" is just freaking me out the more i try n think about it
[editline]4th September 2017[/editline]
like, alright, maybe "if i get worse" isn't exactly what i'm getting at - more like "if a core part of what makes me [I]me[/I] starts to disappear, then Stop Cutting Please" is more accurate. gahhhhhh it freaks me the fuck out thinking about it
who'd have thought, a brain doesn't like the idea of a brain being cut to pieces. crazy
Yeah, patients are awake during brain surgery and have to do tasks. For example, prior tumor operation, the brain near tumour is mapped by using electric stimulation to assess the risks and whatnot. Patient needs to be conscious sort to respond for that.
Thry only gave him his sax after the tumor was out.
[QUOTE=gk99;52645633]That's pretty clever. I wonder how much they'd allow similar experiences for. I can't imagine they'd let a chef prepare a meal while having a tumor removed, since even in this case he had very little ability to move, but say you had a professional esports player, would they allow them Quake on a laptop if they had a tumor near whatever part of the brain that controls ability to effectively use a keyboard and mouse?[/QUOTE]
Imagine streaming from brain surgery
[QUOTE=MedicWine;52646017]Imagine streaming from brain surgery[/QUOTE]
Imagine stream chat.
[QUOTE=rolfum;52645677]I don't understand how the guy could just play a sax like they're not doing anything even though they're literally picking at his exposed brain, I'd be way too freaked out to even try anything if I was in his shoes, hell I just have the shakes thinking about it[/QUOTE]
There's no nerves on your brain, so you wouldn't feel a thing.
I just wish sometime in the far future medicine will have been refined purely into pill/injectable forms.
Have a brain tumor? Take this pill and it will flush out the mutated matter and slowly rebuild connections and reform old matter.
Broken Leg? Take this pill that simply strengthens your immune system and boosts your metabolism; rebuilding it in a couple days/weeks.
Heart Disease? Take this injection that will glass your veins like the aliens from Halo 3.
Surgeries with blades, drills and vices are simply horrific and people who go through major surgery almost NEVER come out the same person.
I think I'd struggle as a drummer if I ever needed it.. that aside it's amazing what we can do.
[QUOTE=grob;52646247]I just wish sometime in the far future medicine will have been refined purely into pill/injectable forms.
Have a brain tumor? Take this pill and it will flush out the mutated matter and slowly rebuild connections and reform old matter.
Broken Leg? Take this pill that simply strengthens your immune system and boosts your metabolism; rebuilding it in a couple days/weeks.
Heart Disease? Take this injection that will glass your veins like the aliens from Halo 3.
[B]Surgeries with blades, drills and vices are simply horrific and people who go through major surgery almost NEVER come out the same person.[/B][/QUOTE]
???
this just sounds like you have a phobia.
[QUOTE=grob;52646247]I just wish sometime in the far future medicine will have been refined purely into pill/injectable forms.
Have a brain tumor? Take this pill and it will flush out the mutated matter and slowly rebuild connections and reform old matter.
Broken Leg? Take this pill that simply strengthens your immune system and boosts your metabolism; rebuilding it in a couple days/weeks.
Heart Disease? Take this injection that will glass your veins like the aliens from Halo 3.
Surgeries with blades, drills and vices are simply horrific and people who go through major surgery almost NEVER come out the same person.[/QUOTE]
The future of medicine is probably going to involve nanomachines.
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;52646572]???
this just sounds like you have a phobia.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see you go through brain surgery or open heart surgery and be complacent.
[QUOTE=grob;52646595]I'd like to see you go through brain surgery or open heart surgery and be complacent.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see you survive diseases necessitating such things without getting them.
I had spinal meningitis as a baby and i turned out fi938ne
i have IBS
[QUOTE=grob;52646247]I just wish sometime in the far future medicine will have been refined purely into pill/injectable forms.
Have a brain tumor? Take this pill and it will flush out the mutated matter and slowly rebuild connections and reform old matter.
Broken Leg? Take this pill that simply strengthens your immune system and boosts your metabolism; rebuilding it in a couple days/weeks.
Heart Disease? Take this injection that will glass your veins like the aliens from Halo 3.
Surgeries with blades, drills and vices are simply horrific and people who go through major surgery almost NEVER come out the same person.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever actually followed a patient pre and post invasive surgery
[editline]4th September 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=grob;52646595]I'd like to see you go through brain surgery or open heart surgery and be complacent.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't bother some people as much as you but I'll admit, I was in the OR one day watching this lady's patella being repaired and the way they had the knee flayed open with all this muscle and shit visible underneath was making my knees really uncomfortable
[QUOTE=grob;52646595]I'd like to see you go through brain surgery or open heart surgery and be complacent.[/QUOTE]
My dad is is the same after having surgery for a cyst in his brain?
Oh also this article reminds me of that video on YouTube of the guy playing a banjo during brain surgery
Cannot understand why people have a problem with me hoping to rid of invasive surgery and find a less traumatic alternative.
[QUOTE=grob;52646964]Cannot understand why people have a problem with me hoping to rid of invasive surgery and find a less traumatic alternative.[/QUOTE]
This is like the time my friend thought he'd solved the worlds problems by telling me "they should make wireless chargers."
[QUOTE=buu342;52646217]There's no nerves on your brain, so you wouldn't feel a thing.[/QUOTE]
How do they get to your brain? Small hole? They don't open up your whole head right?
[QUOTE=grob;52646964]Cannot understand why people have a problem with me hoping to rid of invasive surgery and find a less traumatic alternative.[/QUOTE]
Yeah we need to [I]at least[/I] stop using chainsaws and giant hammers to break through the cranium.
[QUOTE=grob;52646964]Cannot understand why people have a problem with me hoping to rid of invasive surgery and find a less traumatic alternative.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a problem with wanting that.
But it's not really all that likely at this time and the amazing medical techniques we've learned have saved tons of lives so I wouldn't write off the surgical method just yet either.
I think it's a bit naive to compare surgery to some sort of brute force simple fix. Surgeons get paid the big bucks because they use small instruments to do delicate work. They have platters of specialized instruments custom made to be as noninvasive as possible. It's not like they just eyeball the tumor and say "Eh let's chop off about an inch" and then pop the skull back on.
[QUOTE=rolfum;52645677]I don't understand how the guy could just play a sax like they're not doing anything even though they're literally picking at his exposed brain, I'd be way too freaked out to even try anything if I was in his shoes, hell I just have the shakes thinking about it[/QUOTE]
sedation perhaps? i had a surgery a few days ago for which i had to be conscious (epidural) and i was basically about to have a panic attack until they administered the sedative (i think propofol) after which i immediately started calmly chatting to the surgeons about some bullshit (i think it was the latest season of game of thrones but propofol suppresses the memory so i cant really say)
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52647203]I don't have a problem with wanting that.
But it's not really all that likely at this time and the amazing medical techniques we've learned have saved tons of lives so I wouldn't write off the surgical method just yet either.[/QUOTE]
My post was me just saying "I hope the future is like this"
How could you take it any other way...?
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