Doctors discover empty space where part of man’s brain should be
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[QUOTE]An elderly man in Northern Ireland came to the emergency room complaining of weakness in his left arm and a recent history of falls and trouble with his balance.
[B]Doctors were surprised to discover the cause – a large air pocket in his skull where part of his brain should be.[/B][/QUOTE]
[URL]https://globalnews.ca/news/4080127/air-pocket-skull-stroke/[/URL]
What in the actual fuck...:thisthread:
[quote]Doctors placed the man on medication to reduce the risk of further strokes. He was also offered surgery to decompress the air pocket and to remove the bone growth from his sinus. [B][U]However, after the patient and his family discussed the risks, they decided not to have the surgery.[/U][/B]
Instead, the patient was placed on secondary stroke prevention and eventually sent home. In his follow-up appointment 12 weeks later, the weakness on his left side appeared to have resolved.[/quote]
[del]Can't say I agree with this decision[/del]
Didn't realize he was 84
[QUOTE=Butthurter;53199627]so its not missing.. it just got sucked right into the corner where the rest of the brain is backed into, which triggered the stroke?[/QUOTE]
The region got displaced and squished, deprived of blood flow causing a stroke
The brain is squishy and elastic but being pushed to that extent surely caused permanent damage
[QUOTE=Karmah;53199635]Can't say I agree with this decision[/QUOTE]
He's 84, there's about as much chance that he wakes up after general anesthesia as there is that he doesn't.
[QUOTE=Stopper;53199639]He's 84, there's about as much chance that he wakes up after general anesthesia as there is that he doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Fair point, I didn't notice the age.
It's amazing how resilient the human body is, even when you are 84 and have half of your brain shoved into a corner of your skull.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;53199671]It's amazing how resilient the human body is, even when you are 84 and have half of your brain shoved into a corner of your skull.[/QUOTE]
There was another story where a guy had an enormous amount of his brain basically die over years and years, but it happened so slowly that his brain was able to make more connections to replace the ones that had died. Like he wasn't a genius or anything, but he was functional
And there's the story of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage"]Phineas Gage[/URL]
[QUOTE]age opened his mouth to speak; in that same instant the tamping iron sparked against the rock and (possibly because the sand had been omitted) the powder exploded. Rocketed from the hole, the tamping iron•—•1 1⁄4 inches (3.2 cm) in diameter, three feet seven inches (1.1 m) long, and weighing 13 1⁄4 pounds (6.0 kg)•—•entered the left side of Gage's face in an upward direction, just forward of the angle of the lower jaw. [B]Continuing upward outside the upper jaw and possibly fracturing the cheekbone, it passed behind the left eye, through the left side of the brain, and out the top of the skull through the frontal bone.[/B]​​[B1]:13-14[H]:5​​[M]:25-29​​[17]​​[19]
he tamping iron landed point-first some 80 feet (25 m) away,[M]:29[19][9] "smeared with blood and brain".[H]:5
[B]Gage was thrown onto his back and gave some brief convulsions of the arms and legs, but spoke within a few minutes, walked with little assistance, and sat upright in an oxcart for the 3⁄4-mile (1.2 km) ride to his lodgings in town.[/B][H]:5 About 30 minutes after the accident, physician Edward H. Williams, finding Gage sitting in a chair outside the hotel, was greeted with "one of the great understatements of medical history"
Mr. Gage persisted in saying that the bar went through his head. Mr. G. got up and vomited; [B]the effort of vomiting pressed out about half a teacupful of the brain [through the exit hole at the top of the skull], which fell upon the floor.[/B][M5]:244[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheBorealis;53199771]And there's the story of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage"]Phineas Gage[/URL][/QUOTE]
all i imagine in that scenario is juicero
[QUOTE=Stopper;53199639]He's 84, there's about as much chance that he wakes up after general anesthesia as there is that he doesn't.[/QUOTE]
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Just give me 5 minutes and we'll have that air out.
-snip, pretty sure I misread it-
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Just give me 5 minutes and we'll have that air out.[/QUOTE]
This is honestly not too far off what they actually do to relieve pressure in the brain.
People generally recover from hemispherectomy (one half of the brain removed) with little cognitive symptoms. It's amazing how well the brain can adapt to changes
[QUOTE=laserpanda;53200917]People generally recover from hemispherectomy (one half of the brain removed) with little cognitive symptoms. It's amazing how well the brain can adapt to changes[/QUOTE]
Technically you have two brains, which explains how it can ever even happen at all
[QUOTE=J!NX;53200919]Technically you have two brains, which explains how it can ever even happen at all[/QUOTE]
Only one of them has the ability to speak and express itself normally though. The one that can't speak is still capable of forming its own wants, desires, and dislikes though - as we've seen with patients who've suffered particular damage or genetic problems as to allow it to control the body. Much like realizing there's a skeleton inside you, you're now realizing that there's now and has always been 'a second you' that's always been there which your brain refuses to 'hand the controls over to'.
To our mono-sapience if you brought that brain to control half your body it would be a bit like having 'the devil inside' as your arm would just reach out and grab a snickers or slap some broccoli out of your hand or close the door to someone you're interested in talking to.
[QUOTE]This was due to an “ethmoidal osteoma,” which Brown explained is a slow-growing bone growth in his sinus. It eventually eroded through the base of his skull cavity.
“It had formed a ‘one-way valve’ effect that would allow air to get through into the skull but wasn’t able to get out. This caused a build-up of air under pressure insidiously over months to years,” he explained. Air was able to get into the man’s skull through the sinus, and then was trapped there.[/QUOTE]
:disgust:
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;53200410]This is honestly not too far off what they actually do to relieve pressure in the brain.[/QUOTE]
So far as I know, this and other neural surgeries are done while being awake (with local anesthesia of course) almost every time. Patients are often even doing more or less challenging mental tasks such as playing an instrument, so the doctors would see if everything is still fine.
I have read that on a article that was also posted on Facepunch. There were jokes about Starcraft tournaments only for people in ongoing brain surgeries. :eng101:
Makes me wonder what kind of shit people spent their life living with before we had radiography
Ever thought about asking it? As silly as it sounds its in there too and it's all connected up to your senses as far as I know, at the very least it can see out of the other eyeball and is capable of reading and writing.
Odds are though for the most part it's in sync with you and unless the connection in your brain are severed it's still you.
https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8
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