The quotes on death were always a bit of a strange contrast to the "FUCK YEAH WAR" big exciting setpieces. Even in Cod 1, when they had some kind of meloncholic music, it was still pretty much just Michael Bay shit.
come on they can sell the war is hell message with the game even if the trailer made it look exciting
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;52163377]The quotes on death were always a bit of a strange contrast to the "FUCK YEAH WAR" big exciting setpieces. Even in Cod 1, when they had some kind of meloncholic music, it was still pretty much just Michael Bay shit.[/QUOTE]
I always rather liked them
The trailer being exciting is because of marketing, which is rarely handled in house.
Isn't it agreed that every game up to MW2 was fairly anti-war?
There was absolutely little to no positivity about war in either Modern Warfare or World at War - and from the looks of it Black Ops wasn't keen on it either.
But MW2 certainly dramatically shifted the tone of the series - which was really, really unfortunate, imo.
Black Ops was more of an espionage thriller than a war game
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52164425]Isn't it agreed that every game up to MW2 was fairly anti-war?
There was absolutely little to no positivity about war in either Modern Warfare or World at War - and from the looks of it Black Ops wasn't keen on it either.
But MW2 certainly dramatically shifted the tone of the series - which was really, really unfortunate, imo.[/QUOTE]
Black Ops hax some weird moments though, like when you beat the game and your character's head breaks water to be greeted with a bunch of battleships proudly flying American flags while jets zoom by overhead and random rock music starts playing out of nowhere because 'Murica.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52164425]Isn't it agreed that every game up to MW2 was fairly anti-war?
There was absolutely little to no positivity about war in either Modern Warfare or World at War - and from the looks of it Black Ops wasn't keen on it either.
But MW2 certainly dramatically shifted the tone of the series - which was really, really unfortunate, imo.[/QUOTE]
The thing is that the gameplay context and the story context are at heavy odds with one another. In gameplay, you're constantly slaughtering dozens of enemies that are, almost without fail besides very specific sequences, hostile enemies, terrorists, or so forth. The few exceptions are meant to stand out. You survive the most ridiculous things, use the neatest gadgets to bring forth more death, and you're typically a one-man-army.
The stories on the other hand keep raising the stakes by trying to make all the violence just pure carnage that gets no one anywhere, with massive collateral damage that keeps ramping up almost every other game, and good people dying horribly for no good reason. Modern Warfare 2 went a different direction, but still doesn't glorify anything. They're staunchly anti-conflict and anti-war, to the point that pretty much every CoD game is filled with tragedy. Especially [sp]Infinite Warfare's downer ending of the protagonist and all but 4 of his 700+ crew kicking the bucket, having crippled the enemy forces but the war not over.[/sp]
Combine this with multiplayer, which may lack story context but generally glorifies killing the everliving hell out of other players in more and more creative and eccentric ways per game as everyone flings themselves off of walls while shooting eachother with dual SMGs or crossbows and shit, and the anti-war message of the series are downright smothered by the gameplay. And the constant accessories to bombastic slaughter in the campaigns feel by and far distant from the actual storylines.
I somehow doubt that fans of Call of Duty continue to buy the games because the games are broadening their horizons with profound statements about the horrors of war and the virtue of peace.
It's not fucking Paths of Glory. People are buying them because all the action and shooting are FUN.
The only good 'anti-war' fps on consoles is Brothers in Arms. All the others are too "MURICA" or 1 man army styled.
[QUOTE=Loofiloo;52164736]I somehow doubt that fans of Call of Duty continue to buy the games because the games are broadening their horizons with profound statements about the horrors of war and the virtue of peace.
It's not fucking Paths of Glory. People are buying them because all the action and shooting are FUN.[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone is arguing against that.
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