Oh? I had no idea. I though Online trolls were successful business men who just decides to troll around for a bit.
[quote]When performing poorly, players increased negative statements toward women and submissive statements toward the men who were winning.
The results also suggest that video games may be reinforcing gender segregation and potentially promoting sexist behaviours, especially troubling since so many "gamers" are teenagers.[/quote]
Perhaps in Console online space but things are totally opposite in PC online space. PC online games male gamers start becoming ass kissers as soon as they figure out that the player is female. Even if female player plays terribly, nobody will say anything bad to her.
I play PC online games and I don't remember Male gamers being more negative towards women. It's usually equal or ass kissing.
[QUOTE=Pappi_man;48261744]
Perhaps in Console online space but things are totally opposite in PC online space. PC online games male gamers start becoming ass kissers as soon as they figure out that the player is female. Even if female player plays terribly, nobody will say anything bad to her.
I play PC online games and I don't remember Male gamers being more negative towards women. It's usually equal or ass kissing.[/QUOTE]
While I do not condone it, one of my steam friends was pretending to be a girl in tf2 - by hanging around one server with some kind of a voice filter long enough, he was gifted several unusual hats and other expensive items by it's kid regulars. Shit's profitable :v:
[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;48261895]While I do not condone it, one of my steam friends was pretending to be a girl in tf2 - by hanging around one server with some kind of a voice filter long enough, he was gifted several unusual hats and other expensive items by it's kid regulars. Shit's profitable :v:[/QUOTE]
I'm sure those kids will get their girl through chari$ma and per$onality
That's not a title I'd expect from the BBC
[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;48261895]While I do not condone it, one of my steam friends was pretending to be a girl in tf2 - by hanging around one server with some kind of a voice filter long enough, he was gifted several unusual hats and other expensive items by it's kid regulars. Shit's profitable :v:[/QUOTE]
I used to do that in runescape. I managed to get around 14 million gold back when a million was a big deal that way
All I can gather from it is that some Halo 3 players are sexist.
It's pretty weird to not link to a study making such a bold claim. Judging male gamers based off of 163 rounds of a single game seems a little shitty.
Good thing this wasn't an issue in casual Sven Co-op..
on a small 5-6 people server at night..
with apparently only me and one other female player having microphones..
*shaking, shivering and sweating*
[QUOTE=gokiyono;48266379]All I can gather from it is that some Halo 3 players are sexist.
It's pretty weird to not link to a study making such a bold claim. Judging male gamers based off of 163 rounds of a single game seems a little shitty.[/QUOTE]
The people who headed the study are [url=http://imgur.com/a/tW2Tl]most likely have confirmation bias due to their history[/url].
Was this the study that actually stated that they had found no difference between skill level in verbal abuse?
[QUOTE=Swilly;48271770]Was this the study that actually stated that they had found no difference between skill level in verbal abuse?[/QUOTE]
[quote]and submissive statements toward the men who were winning.[/quote]
There's no source but it definitely is. It's extremely questionable that a no body study like this is being printed on the BBC.
god that thread title alongside that thread icon had me fucking lose my shit
quality BBC editors
This is a rather large bump but here's a video looking at the numbers in the study: [video=youtube;QK8NwZPLqBw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8NwZPLqBw[/video](I'm pretty sure this almost completely misinterprets the graphs, but that only accounts for some of the criticism.)
tl;dl: They completely ignored the control group and repeatedly cut down their sample size to achieve a higher shallow sexism figure in their conclusion (13% vs. ~1%).
They also don't appear to have corrected for the performance difference of their male and female manipulations (with the male manipulation having about as many wins but half the losses, and them only sampling teammates) and didn't check the reactions to the male manipulation for sexism.
[URL="https://archive.is/QX86m"]The study itself[/URL] [I]may[/I] be interpreted in a way that suggests bad players shit-talk more and that good players are especially nice to women (if you trust a study with an execution this shaky and with an effective sample size this small), but even with that the BBC article vastly misinterprets the results and contains lots of spin by omission.
[quote]Male players were thrown off by hearing female voices during the game. The researchers think their results suggest that young males should be taught that losing to women is not "socially debilitating".[/quote] is flat out baseless speculation since the researchers explicitly removed this scenario from practically all their graphs and didn't specifically examine what was left of competition between manipulation (receiver) and focal player (sender) at all.
Oh wow, surprise surprise.
Shit article.
So do researchers deliberately botch the studies to get a predetermined result or are they just clueless? The BBC editors probably just did it for clickbait.
[QUOTE=Zyler;48320689]So do researchers deliberately botch the studies to get a predetermined result or are they just clueless? The BBC editors probably just did it for clickbait.[/QUOTE]
It's really difficult to tell.
My very imprecise gut feeling about it is that they deliberately cooked the graphs and conclusions to seem more important to an uneducated audience and have lots of prejudice about the tech sector, but may have botched their sampling accidentally.
The only places where bias could have entered (and most likely did enter) the actual data is the performance of the models, which they didn't correct for properly (or rather: at all) in a team-oriented game.
In my opinion the whole study was flawed from the get-go since they couldn't (or didn't) access the necessary data to separate different correlated performance metrics. Doing a study on an everyone-vs-everyone game would give much more useful results.
The text part does make some rather large leaps of logic at times and says a few things not (reliably) determinable from the data, but at least the amount of "Video games are sexist [against women]!"-language is comparatively low in this study (since it in part goes both ways here).
I don't know. My dad isn't in an internet troll but he's a god tier troll in real life and he's an incredibly successful business man. He just likes to fuck with people and its hilarious.
But maybe thats what the difference between an internet troll and IRL troll.
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