• It's time for a new rig.
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Most likely I've become an unknown around here during my absence, but I've been around. My current system specs are, Intel Q9550 SLI GTX 280's EVGA 780i FTW Motherboard Antec TruePower Quattro 850W Modular PSU HAF-932 (If you remember, I got it two weeks before it released when no one even knew it was coming) A handfull of Sata drives. 8GB Gskill 1066 I've been busy doing 3D Design and webdesign work, I'm currently working for a design firm out of Indianapolis right now and I want to upgrade my system with an emphasis on 3D Design (not to the point of a workstation GPU, I still want to game) and these are the specs I'm currently thinking about. Being out of the PC building game for a few years put me out of date, I had to play quite a bit of catchup to get back up to date. Also my main display is 2560x1600. HAF-932 (I know, a bit tacky but I love the last one and it's very affordable and good to work in, anyways it just sits under a desk.) SLI EVGA GTX 680's Asus Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Motherboard CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold Series 1000W Modular PSU 64GB Gskill Ripjaw X Series 1866 ram Intel Core i7-3930K Scythe SCNJ-3100 Ninja w/adapter for 2011. OCZ RevoDrive 3 X2 Series PCI-E 240GB internal SSD. For storage I'll be pulling two of the Sata drives out of my current rig. The ram is a bit overkill but it's not that expensive and my large scale enviornment modeling in 3DS max just eats my 8GB with 100% ram usage, same with CS5 with very large scale high DPI design work. I could salvage the PSU and case from my current rig but I am tempted just to keep that intact for a 3rd gaming PC in my office, or give it to my nephew, I've still got a very similar rig with the same mobo, cpu, ram and SLI 560Ti's down the desk from me. Suggestions? I've been out of the game for quite a while.
64GB RAM Might just be overkill, 32GB Will cut it. 3D's Max has never eaten all of my 8GB, Even with steam and all that shit running in the background.
[QUOTE=12voltsdc;36413625]64GB RAM Might just be overkill, 32GB Will cut it. 3D's Max has never eaten all of my 8GB, Even with steam and all that shit running in the background.[/QUOTE] I think we might be doing different things with 3ds max. As far as the ram, my only concern is DOA sticks, but that's easily resolved.
Perhaps think of getting a gtx690 instead of two 680s. I think on average it's like 5% worse performance, but at the same time it's cooler and uses less power. You should be able to run a 690 off a 750w PSU which would save you some money there. I also agree on the ram, 16gb would already be way overkill. Just get like 32gb and use the money saved to put toward 2 more monitors and go surround.
[QUOTE=100 cotton;36417276]Perhaps think of getting a gtx690 instead of two 680s. I think on average it's like 5% worse performance, but at the same time it's cooler and uses less power. You should be able to run a 690 off a 750w PSU which would save you some money there. I also agree on the ram, 16gb would already be way overkill. Just get like 32gb and use the money saved to put toward 2 more monitors and go surround.[/QUOTE] I'm running four displays right now and need the four DVI's, and SLI 680's are better performing at the same price. 16GB is not nearly enough for the work I do, I'd still most likely get memory locks in max at 16 with my current products. The difference between 32gb and 64gb is only $270, that's like 8 dollars a GB.
I'd get 2 670's with 4 gigs of ram instead, $20 cheaper and still really freakin powerful, and in the long run you save $40.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;36417613]I'd get 2 670's with 4 gigs of ram instead, $20 cheaper and still really freakin powerful, and in the long run you save $40.[/QUOTE] 4GB 670's or two 670's and 4GB of Ram?
These [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130785&Tpk=GTX%20670%204gb[/url]
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;36417656]These [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130785&Tpk=GTX%20670%204gb[/url][/QUOTE] Stepping down to 670's to save $40 doesn't seem like it would be worth it. Also the 4GB compared to the 2GB doesn't effect much. A 4GB GTX 680 compared to a 2GB stock GTX 680 was only a 1-4FPS difference in gaming at 2560x1600. Not really worth spending more for the 4GB version. I assume the same holds true for the 670.
If the 680's will run better for you and saving that $40 - $200 isnt worth it I guess go ahead and get them.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;36417743]If the 680's will run better for you and saving that $40 - $200 isnt worth it I guess go ahead and get them.[/QUOTE] They are pretty damn close in the benchmarks aren't they. That's not a big step down at all actually when you compare them in SLI against each other. Interesting.
Well from what I saw it was only a minor 10 FPS difference in most games so spending the extra $200 wouldnt be worth it to me.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;36417861]Well from what I saw it was only a minor 10 FPS difference in most games so spending the extra $200 wouldnt be worth it to me.[/QUOTE] I saw an even smaller difference when I was just looking when compared in SLI, as little as 1-4FPS when at 2560x1600 in SLI. That card you linked might be my new choice, although not as cheap as the 2GB it'd still be nice to have that extra vram in max.
Yeah thats why I suggested the 4 gb 670's you've got that future proof right there incase graphics get even more demanding in vram.
Since it seems like you like tossing out money and want good ram ,wait for the Corsair Dominator Platinum ram to come out. Runs 3000mhz out of the box. [url]http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20120530162748_Corsair_Readies_3GHz_DDR3_Dominator_Platinum_Memory_Modules.html[/url]
Also if you're getting 1000 watt PSU get a seasonic or an enermax [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151105&Tpk=seasonic%201000[/url]
Come off it, you do not need 64 gigs of RAM. 16, yes, but 64? just no.
[QUOTE=100 cotton;36418514]Since it seems like you like tossing out money and want good ram ,wait for the Corsair Dominator Platinum ram to come out. Runs 3000mhz out of the box. [url]http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20120530162748_Corsair_Readies_3GHz_DDR3_Dominator_Platinum_Memory_Modules.html[/url][/QUOTE] I'm not simply throwing money away, I'm building a workstation. I remember back in early 2008 I bought 4GB of ram, everyone was like 'that's a waste, more than you need' when everyone was running 2GB as the standard. Needless to say my 4GB was then further upped, over the years, to 8GB. Everyone building right now is putting 8GB at the standard. Going by that, if everyone is getting 8, then getting 16 is 'more than you need' and 32GB will be what I would be running in four years from now in the same rig. So 32GB is very reasonable for a computer that will be used intensely for the next four years or so, 64gb is overkill but that would have been like running 16GB back in 08' which would be nice nowadays. Most likely I will get 32GB, see how it performs, and see if I'd like to get the rest. What are your guy's opinions on ram speeds, comparing 1333 to 1600 and so on. I've read that higher speeds at a point don't necessarily mean faster performance since the memory controller can still affect the overall performance.
I'd just go ahead and get 1600 mhz since ivy bridge can run it without having to overclock, your programs might run smoother or open a tad faster.
You want to watch the Windows Ram limit, Because believe it or not Windos can't just register all the ram you want it too. [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7[/url] That link should help you, You need AT LEAST 7 Professional to run 32GB and XP is out of the question.
I read your bit on why you're getting the HAF 932 (I had one myself and I thought it was [I]okay[/I]) but have you considered a Corsair 850D? Amazing to build in as so much room and features for cable management and parts.
[QUOTE=12voltsdc;36442448]You want to watch the Windows Ram limit, Because believe it or not Windos can't just register all the ram you want it too. [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7[/url] That link should help you, You need AT LEAST 7 Professional to run 32GB and XP is out of the question.[/QUOTE] Yep, I already run Windows 7 Ultimate x64. [QUOTE=PyroCF;36442510]I read your bit on why you're getting the HAF 932 (I had one myself and I thought it was [I]okay[/I]) but have you considered a Corsair 850D? Amazing to build in as so much room and features for cable management and parts.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah I really like the look of the 850D, that's my other choice. The thing that gets me though is that to me it doesn't matter to much. I've grown out of showing off pictures of my stuff, and no one who ever comes into my office physically would care beyond 'oh that's cool.' I'm sure it'd be a great case to work in, I love the idea of those rubber grommets, but 'once the dust settles' and your no longer actively putting components in or running wires it just becomes any other case under a desk. As long as it doesn't look like bumble bee, I think I'll be fine. I'd rather show off what i make with the computer.
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