Yes, more cod-clones and multiplayer centric games with no storyline. The future of gaming is now.
I tried playing X-Com but it was too hard for me and I've always have mouse issues with the game. The game itself just has no tutorial for me to start off with, and got lost easily.
Could this also be the reason why people are getting edgy with Civilization 5?
that's still pretty silly and stupid, sure the FPS online deathmatch shootan crowd is the "big popular thing" nowadays but not only is the market and crowd of the strategy/turn-based fans still pretty large (recent example Frozen Synapse), X-Com had always been known as a tough as shit but satisfying strategy game where trial and error is prominent throughout the series + over the top alien b-movie story
should have just made a new IP instead of trying to make it appeal to both the new crowd and trying to please the old crowd using the franchise's name
I love strategy games. I don't know what he's talking about. There are several thriving strategy franchises: Total War, Civilization, Dawn of War to name a few. What's not contemporary about that??
Honestly they could have made anything and used a different name. But fuck that, brand recognition.
[editline]13th July 2011[/editline]
They could just re name it and it would still be the same fucking thing.
as I've said before, no problem with making an XCOM shooter, but this is not the way you do it.
So he's pretty much saying he doesn't care about the old fans and just wants the big shooter audience? Great.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;31087858]So he's pretty much saying he doesn't care about the old fans and just wants the big shooter audience? Great.[/QUOTE]
He's basically saying he would rather cash in with a shooter audience rather than find a studio that wants to be innovative and just maybe create a strategy game that could branch out to a bigger audience. Its the cheap way out and to be perfectly honest, I don't see anyone getting hyped about this in the slightest.
Some of my favorite games are strategy titles.
Rise of Nations and Age of Empires 2 both sold relatively well and are still played today, I would definitely drop 40 bucks on a proper sequel.
Anno 1404 was pretty good, it just had a very weak military system that played out as chess pieces instead of something fun.
RTS games are the shit.
Fuck you, Cristoph
“Not Contemporary” translated into English: ''FPS games with loads of bullshit DLC make more money than RTS games. Plus we can't sell them on consoles, so fuck it!''
[QUOTE=darkedone02;31086879]I tried playing X-Com but it was too hard for me and I've always have mouse issues with the game. The game itself just has no tutorial for me to start off with, and got lost easily.
Could this also be the reason why people are getting edgy with Civilization 5?[/QUOTE]
It's not difficult to get into. There are a load of tutorials online, strategy games from 1993 tend to drop you in at the deep end.
Also, what mouse issues? I had some lag problems in the Battlescape part of it due to DOSbox, but they're easily fixed with a .conf edit.
[editline]13th July 2011[/editline]
Fuck this game and fuck 2K for doing this to X-COM.
I said a year back that strategy games were going to die in the next years because they don't work on consoles, thats how it fucking is. The money is on consoles, the RTS aren't, its that simple and that sad.
You know what is funny? This game would probably be much more successful if it was say... a pc exclusive strat game which ends up catering to a deep niche audience that has been around forever than making it a generic console shooter that has a larger market but where the market is oversaturated and runs entirely on fads. In other words, no one apart of that fad market is really interested in the franchise and is full of people who generally don't develop into loyal fans as they are essentually casual gamers for the most part.
[QUOTE=MasterG;31096381]Exactly. The problem with cashing in on the cod clone console market is that:
A:) The original hardcore niche fans won't buy it, because it's too different.
B:) The shooter fans won't buy it, because they don't know the IP very well.
It's totally fucking nonsense to try and cash in on an over-saturated market like that with a "classic" game WHILST alienating the hardcore fans.[/QUOTE]
More like the old fans just take one look at it and see what a horrible job 2K have done ham fisting the game into a format the general gaming public would find appealing and even then they probably won't buy it because it looks mediocre and unappealing to the casual observer.
also, the idea that and entire game genre can be "not contemporary" or "not relevant" anymore is complete bullshit.
Take for example L.A. Noire, the game is essentially an old point and click adventure game with the concept updated to fit with the new modern tech we have available and has new conventions in game design incorporated into it, And it works brilliantly and now these types of games have a future.
see what trying does?
This is making my blood boil, I love RTS games I've been playing them since I was 4-5 years old, I am a massive RTS fun and this is pissing me the fuck off.
Stronghold nooooooo
[QUOTE=KorJax;31096215]You know what is funny? This game would probably be much more successful if it was say... a pc exclusive strat game which ends up catering to a deep niche audience that has been around forever than making it a generic console shooter that has a larger market but where the market is oversaturated and runs entirely on fads. In other words, no one apart of that fad market is really interested in the franchise and is full of people who generally don't develop into loyal fans as they are essentually casual gamers for the most part.[/QUOTE]
Basically fans get fucked over, main FPS console market doesn't know or give a shit about XCOM and will just buy the latest CoD instead
Good job destroying yourselves from the beginning
But BC2 was obviously a console game, as well as a try to grab the MW2 audience on consoles.
[QUOTE=AWarGuy;31103201]This is making my blood boil, I love RTS games I've been playing them since I was 4-5 years old, I am a massive RTS fun and this is pissing me the fuck off.[/QUOTE]
So am I but I'm also a platform lover, a first person shooter lover and a RPG lover.
But we need to look at this objectively.
Firstly, have there been any succesful RTS's on any console?
Second, have they sold well too?
Thirdly, if we really want this franchise to come back and grow what is the best way doing this? Peddle to the hard core fans who are hard to please or to spring this up on an unsuspecting group of players and actually get them sucked into the classics?
For everyone who keeps mentioning multiplayer, I haven't seen any plans for multiplayer anywhere. I believe co-op was mentioned but not true multiplayer.
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