Intel CPU or no? - Hardware & Software

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/k3kPTWM.png[/IMG] I know it's a shit computer, but still, it's pretty great at running any game up until late 2012. Scratch that. The comp is okay.

The Phenom II is definitely going to bottleneck a GTX 670, but you could wait a few months for next gen hardware releases.

[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;39390719]The Phenom II is definitely going to bottleneck a GTX 670, but you could wait a few months for next gen hardware releases.[/QUOTE] Explain.

[QUOTE=GeneyD;39390858]Explain.[/QUOTE] Intel's Haswell architecture is expected to come out later this year. It'll be running on a new socket instead of LGA1155, which both Sandy and Ivy Bridge use currently.

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;39390909]Intel's Haswell architecture is expected to come out later this year. It'll be running on a new socket instead of LGA1155, which both Sandy and Ivy Bridge use currently.[/QUOTE] What do you suggest? Wait and hope my computer runs every game fine before then? Or get a cheap Intel CPU that's better than my current for now, then buy one of the new ones.

Waiting is the better option in the meantime. Again, a current-gen Intel CPU won't work with Haswell mobos (because of the differing sockets), so you'd need to upgrade mobos twice if you want to get a Haswell CPU if you went from an AMD Phenom II > Intel Ivy Bridge > Haswell CPU.

Well for a new cheap Intel CPU you'd also need a new motherboard to support it. Even if you got an i3 and cheapo motherboard its still going to set you back ~$190, which you'd have to replace again for your next upgrade because of the change from socket 1155 to socket 1150. Or you could wait until April/May to upgrade to a higher end and much better performing CPU.

[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;39391175]Well for a new cheap Intel CPU you'd also need a new motherboard to support it. Even if you got an i3 and cheapo motherboard its still going to set you back ~$190, which you'd have to replace again for your next upgrade because of the change from socket 1155 to socket 1150. Or you could wait until April/May to upgrade to a higher end and much better performing CPU.[/QUOTE] I think I'll wait, lol. Thank you both.

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;39390909]Intel's Haswell architecture is expected to come out later this year. It'll be running on a new socket instead of LGA1155, which both Sandy and Ivy Bridge use currently.[/QUOTE]What about a socket 2011 CPU for him ? It would still work with the up coming Ivy Bridge-E chip. And I mean my i7970 was socket 1366 and it's still better than quite a few newer CPUs.

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;39400615]What about a socket 2011 CPU for him ? It would still work with the up coming Ivy Bridge-E chip. And I mean my i7970 was socket 1366 and it's still better than quite a few newer CPUs.[/QUOTE] Socket 2011 motherboards are very expensive compared to 1155 ones, and the CPUs aren't any cheaper. You'll get much more bang for your buck with a 1155 model, especially when we're just talking game performance.

[QUOTE=GeneyD;39390492][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/k3kPTWM.png[/IMG] I know it's a shit computer[/QUOTE] How so? You have one of the most powerful single GPU graphics cards available today and that CPU should be able to handle pretty much any game. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. [QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;39390719]The Phenom II is definitely going to bottleneck a GTX 670[/QUOTE] Any examples of where that would actually happen? Most games are way more demanding on the GPU than CPU.

[QUOTE=pebkac;39412566]How so? You have one of the most powerful single GPU graphics cards available today and that CPU should be able to handle pretty much any game. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Any examples of where that would actually happen? Most games are way more demanding on the GPU than CPU.[/QUOTE] BF3 and PS2 are the biggest games I can think of right now, there are more though.

[QUOTE=pebkac;39412566]How so? You have one of the most powerful single GPU graphics cards available today and that CPU should be able to handle pretty much any game. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Any examples of where that would actually happen? Most games are way more demanding on the GPU than CPU.[/QUOTE] GPUs need to be fed the information they need to process, which requires a CPU capable of handling physics, sound, input, networking, background system management, data loading/off-loading, AND sending all the many instructions needed to the GPU.

I honestly don't think a Phenom II X4 would bottleneck any current GPU.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39400898]Socket 2011 motherboards are very expensive compared to 1155 ones, and the CPUs aren't any cheaper. You'll get much more bang for your buck with a 1155 model, especially when we're just talking game performance.[/QUOTE]I was thinking that socket 2011 is going to be around for a bit longer.

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;39429195]I was thinking that socket 2011 is going to be around for a bit longer.[/QUOTE] that doesn't really matter, though if he's just going to wait. 2011 is typically much better for rendering and photoediting and stuff like that because the CPUs have more cores. He'd be paying a pretty significant amount more for worse performance when he should just wait a couple months.

[QUOTE=Sigs367;39429288]that doesn't really matter, though if he's just going to wait. 2011 is typically much better for rendering and photoediting and stuff like that because the CPUs have more cores. He'd be paying a pretty significant amount more for worse performance when he should just wait a couple months.[/QUOTE]Well I suppose, I think you should offer a link to an article about the new socket though.

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;39434705]Well I suppose, I think you should offer a link to an article about the new socket though.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1150[/url] and references has links to some other stuff, there's not much other than speculation right now because Intel doesn't often "officially" release information.

that gtx 670 will work like butter with a i5 or i7,

[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;39412713]BF3 and PS2 are the biggest games I can think of right now, there are more though.[/QUOTE] I couldn't find any decent benchmarks for the X4 980 in BF3, so I decided to do my own little test. I have a 3570k at stock clocks. I set my graphics in BF3 to the lowest possible and joined a 64 player server. I got between 100 and 150fps pretty much all the time. And I should mention that I'm running my memory in single channel mode, I've had to take one stick out due to it being defective. So much for a CPU bottlenecked game. I'm sure an x4 980 would be able to provide a smooth 60fps framerate in BF3, it's pretty much the best AMD quadcore out there.

Why would you set your settings to low? You could probably get 60+ fps with a stock clock Core 2 Duo. What I'm saying is you can get way better framerates at higher settings because the CPU is able to keep up in games that rely on it a little bit more. [editline]1st February 2013[/editline] Plus, who in their right mind would play games on low after they've spent $400 on a GPU that can max every current game?!

[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;39436573]Why would you set your settings to low? You could probably get 60+ fps with a stock clock Core 2 Duo. What I'm saying is you can get way better framerates at higher settings because the CPU is able to keep up in games that rely on it a little bit more. [editline]1st February 2013[/editline] Plus, who in their right mind would play games on low after they've spent $400 on a GPU that can max every current game?![/QUOTE] To remove the GPU bottleneck so I can see how capable the CPU really is? And no, there's no way a core 2 duo could run BF3 smoothly, I've tried it and it was a 20fps stutterfest.