So what im planning to do is do a new build. but I think that I could save money by reusing some parts off my current cpu. Or if it is more cost effective I could possibly sell my current CPU for 400$ (I have a tentative offer) What i have currently is:
[CODE]2.7GHz 7750 AMD X2 Dual Core Athlon Processor
14.5" Inwin Micro ATX Tower Case with 350 Watt ATX Power Supply
2GB=2X1GB Kingston DDR2 800MHz RAM
ASUS M3N78-VM, AM2+ (5200HTB), GeForce 8200, MicroATX, PCI/1 PCIe X16, Audio/DVI/GbE/HDMI. 4 DC DDR2
22X LG Dual Layer DVDRW Drive
250GB Western Digital, 8MB Cache, SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive[/CODE]
Im looking to spend about 400 dollars in upgrade or a grand total of 800 if I sell instead of upgrading. A little more is allowable but preferably avoided.
I do not need a OS, I do not need peripherals. I'll be using a 1680x1050 monitor (DVI or VGA) and preferably playing games at that resolution. with High/very high settings.
Games I plan on playing include
Skyrim,
Rugby Challenge,
Battlefield 3,
Dead island.
Some future proofing would be nice, but I think it would be cool if this built was upgradeable in the future when i have the money, and newer games require it.
If you need more information, have cool prepositions, or questions ill answer ASAP
Thanks in advance,
-Brett
[img]http://puu.sh/8Lp9[/img]
Althought, do specify what powersupply you have. It will be quite a tight fit if you don't have a sufficient 450w+ one, but if you can shell out 50 more dollars then you can get a new one too.
This is quite futureproofed, you have four RAM slots, you can upgrade to an i5 2500k/i7 2600k and easily overclock it due to the p67 motherboard, and you also have another pci-e slot for sli compabiltiy.
Alternatively, you can switch the 6850 out for a 460. Both perform pretty much on par, but both have their minor advantages between games.
ok cool thanks :) so two things:
first off I forgot to mention but I want this in CAD, off newegg.ca
and second i just want confirmation that this will fit in my case.
As for the PSU it is a 350 watt so id have to do an upgrade there aswell. Can you recommend something?
THanks!
If you can spend 800CAD, meaning 780USD, then i can surely make you a build with everything included except for a harddrive. Just give me a moment.
[img]http://puu.sh/8PfM[/img]
The case is just a placeholder, you can switch it out to whatever you like that isn't too expensive, if you need to save more then drop down to a 560ti, or 460/6850.
Otherwise, for the i3 build, most 500W powersupplies would be sufficient, xfx core, the corsair cx500 or even a seasonic.
I'm afraid that you can't really drop down a lot on the i3 build, if only to upgrade, then you will have to shell out just a little bit more to get a powersupply. For futureproofing, you can't really do anything cheaper then that, if you're still on a strict budget, then you could upgrade your bios and get a 955 and save 130 dollars on the motherboard and RAM.
does newegg.com ship to canada? cause it has way better prices than newegg.ca
[img]http://puu.sh/8RKM[/img]
well below your budget, from CA
still placeholder case, i personally think it looks hideous, but opinions~
If you want to spend more then you can get a seasonic modular powersupply, and add more RAM if you want to. Or you could add a cheap harddrive, up to you.
if you keep going down the total for that is more like 830$ after tax, the case has to be shipped seperately it would appear. postal code is v1e 2b4 just so you can use if you need. This has potential!
would the stuff in the lastest build you posted fit in my case? like i dont know about compatability that way
Edit: this is my current case.
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108211[/url]
its a micro atx mini tower case. Dimensions are : LWH 14.60" x 7.10" x 14.30"
If its a standard ATX case then the motherboard will fit, problems might occur with the gpu.
Here are the measurements for it
[img]http://puu.sh/8RN2[/img]
If you have more then that much space where approximately the gpu will be mounted, then you're good to go.
And just switch out the case to a different cheaper one then, unless you mind.
[editline]18th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Brettssf]Check edits on that post by the way, i linked to my case and gave my dimensions. im worried about PSU GPU mobo not fitting. but it seems like dimensions might be enough. Ive never built a computer before. Also bear in mind that the case has its own supply i dont know if i can remove or if it is a custom size type deal.. Thanks by the way[/QUOTE]
Well if you can't remove the powersupply, then you'd have to get a new case nonetheless. You can switch it out to like an antec three hundred if it is within your budget. You can also if you really need to save some dosh, just replace the 6950 with a 6870 or gtx 460, that will of course reduce the performance, but you do have the option of running them in sli/crossfire for future upgrading. They aren't bad cards, but you pretty much get what you pay for. But don't be discouraged by my words, a 6850 will still max skyrim with no issues at all, and run bf3 on relatively high settings.
so this is what im thinking. any complaints with this build? i believe i have a harddrive and dvd drive that i should be able to reuse out of an older computer.
[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/vsge95.jpg[/IMG]
any complaints or criticism is welcome!!
Looks okay, but I'd switch out the case to [url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119210[/url]
as it actually looks very neat, I've used one of them a few times, but in orange i believe it was
You could drop down the powersupply to a 500W one, but that only if you don't at all plan on getting a second card for SLI.
that case has a 420w built in supply and power connection issues apparently says feedback
Oh god dammit, the one without the powersupply is out of stock
well just go with whatever what is big enough and fits within your price range
I'm not too literate within them, as I've only handled a handful of them myself, but most good brand cases follow standards nonetheless.
is there any issue i should be aware of if i used a card from nvidia over a radeon?
a friend of mine told me that nvidia cards seem to have the better drivers all the time. is this true? or is it trivial
As i said in a different thread to you already, that is pure fanboyism, not in any way true. I actually even prefer the ATI driver software even.
You can switch to a 460 if you want to go with nvidia, pretty much the same performance with a few variable advantages.
yaa it also seems like nvidia seem to go along better with intel setups (mobo/ram/cpu that im going with) 460 is recommended?
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130571[/url]
considering this card.
[editline]18th November 2011[/editline]
ya im basically settled on everything but the graphics card. Should i get a 6850 and add a second later on or do i go straight for like a 6950? i dont want to push my budget but if it ends up alot more cost effective i probably could.
[QUOTE=Brettssf;33338245]yaa it also seems like nvidia seem to go along better with intel setups (mobo/ram/cpu that im going with) 460 is recommended?
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130571[/url]
considering this card.
[editline]18th November 2011[/editline]
ya im basically settled on everything but the graphics card. Should i get a 6850 and add a second later on or do i go straight for like a 6950? i dont want to push my budget but if it ends up alot more cost effective i probably could.[/QUOTE]
If you're going to get a 460 dont get that superclocked crap.
The more you spend on a gpu, the more performance would you get out of it basically.
Not sure if you should call it more cost effective, as you'd be spending a lot more money on a lot more performance.
[QUOTE=naos;33337607]As i said in a different thread to you already, that is pure fanboyism, not in any way true. I actually even prefer the ATI driver software even.
You can switch to a 460 if you want to go with nvidia, pretty much the same performance with a few variable advantages.[/QUOTE]
It's not just pure fanboyism. I've had CCC crash on me a couple of times and when I went from 11.10 to 11.11 I got BSODs and had to do the uninstall then safe mode driver sweep method. With my 460 I just clicked install and it worked perfectly.
Just because you haven't had issues doesn't mean issues aren't there for others. For my experience AMDs drivers are not as good as Nvidia's. The fact that you're only using your experience as a reference and completely ignore the loads of people who do have issues makes it pretty obvious who the actual "fanboyism" is coming from.
I'm fairly certain that people have had nvidias drivers crash on them too. There is no downside other then preference with going with AMD/ATI over nvidia.
[QUOTE=naos;33342564]The more you spend on a gpu, the more performance would you get out of it basically.
Not sure if you should call it more cost effective, as you'd be spending a lot more money on a lot more performance.[/QUOTE]
Well if he knows how to properly overclock a GPU and keep the temps down there would be no point in superclocked, But I dont know his experience with GPU overclocking so I think I'll stay out of that area.
[QUOTE=naos;33342564]The more you spend on a gpu, the more performance would you get out of it basically.
Not sure if you should call it more cost effective, as you'd be spending a lot more money on a lot more performance.[/QUOTE]
price and performance is a logarithmic graph
the money you spend to get to the general "mid end" is going to be a huge value and even $10 will give you a huge performance boost in parts. but once you get to the normal range of prices you're going to gave to spend $50 or so for the next "step up" that is a minor increase in performance, up until you get to the higher end parts that cost a stupid amount of money for a tiny performance increase
[QUOTE=naos;33344599]I'm fairly certain that people have had nvidias drivers crash on them too. There is no downside other then preference with going with AMD/ATI over nvidia.[/QUOTE]
Really? No downsides at all? So how was Rage, was it fun? Did it run well? It didn't for me when it first came out, but the green team guys had it working pretty well.
How about them Crossfire profiles. You know, where you have to wait weeks after a game launches to get proper Crossfire profiles. You can keep lying to yourself and claiming there are no outstanding issues. But they're there and I've presented only a couple of them.
[editline]19th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;33346810]Well if he knows how to properly overclock a GPU and keep the temps down there would be no point in superclocked, But I dont know his experience with GPU overclocking so I think I'll stay out of that area.[/QUOTE]
Factory overclocked cards are the better binned cards. As a result you may find that they reach higher frequencies than cards that they couldn't guarantee they could ship out factory overclocked.
observation bias
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey;33350721]observation bias[/QUOTE]
Rage didn't work across the board for AMD card users. Crossfire profiles take longer on average to come out than SLI profiles.
The crashes and BSODs I experienced are indeed subject to observation bias, the other points are not.
so best reliable graphics card in the 160-200$ CAD range is what im looking for now, Basically a 6850 or the nvidia equivalent(which i dont know what that is). I dont know what brands to go with or anything, any advice?
[QUOTE=Brettssf;33351384]so best reliable graphics card in the 160-200$ CAD range is what im looking for now, Basically a 6850 or the nvidia equivalent(which i dont know what that is). I dont know what brands to go with or anything, any advice?[/QUOTE]
I'd get the 6850. I'm using it in a build for a friend which I'll be ordering on Saturday and it looks like the best card in its price bracket.
xfx or sapphire? or gigabyte for that matter.. im not very literate on which of these is a good brand.. Im looking for something reliable
torn between three, however in order im thinking:
GIGABYTE: [url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353[/url]
ASUS: [url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121419[/url]
SAPPHIRE: [url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102953[/url]
does anyone have any reason to choose one of these cards over another?
you can get a 6870 for the same price as those cards using the promo code
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948[/url]
this is what ive ended up with
[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/35bikiw.jpg[/IMG]
i went with a 6950 cause i figured id just bite the bullet. Only possible issue im forseeing is case size not beign sufficient or issues mounting components. If anyone sees anything wrong let me know.
Also thank all of you for your input. its made this alot easier to figure out!
you dont need an antistatic wrist strap
and i highly recommend actually spending a little bit on getting a nice case so you don't feel like you need to replace it a couple years down the road when you're upgrading stuff
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