I'm writing a 12-page research paper on cyber bullying. I need some feedback on the views of cyber bullying from victims and people who cyber bully others; "troll".
I'd love to hear all your stories you have to share.
You have to be extremely weak minded to be a "victim" of cyber bullying..
Seriously, you can just turn your computer off, block the person, create a new account etc.
I think they blame cyber bullying when they should be blaming the underlying problems. It seems to me that those who get bullied in life go ahead and get online in an attempt to anonymously connect with other people. Trolls go ahead and "cyber-bully" them and it just brings the world down on it. In my opinion, cyber-bullying is hardly a problem and it's more-so the issues in school that should be dealt with first. Anyways, just my take on it.
[QUOTE=Zareox7;35560363]I think they blame cyber bullying when they should be blaming the underlying problems. It seems to me that those who get bullied in life go ahead and get online in an attempt to anonymously connect with other people. Trolls go ahead and "cyber-bully" them and it just brings the world down on it. In my opinion, cyber-bullying is hardly a problem and it's more-so the issues in school that should be dealt with first. Anyways, just my take on it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your feedback. You brought up a very valid point that I haven't thought of. Thanks again :)
Yeah OP I can contribute because Facepunch bros are bros.
Years ago I was alot younger and dumber and I had no IRL friends because I moved to a new school and was a very socially awkward person, I just avoided people so I was labeled as that quiet kid who's going to shoot up the school someday.
To make up for the lack of a real social life I turned to the program I had recently found: Steam.
I made lots of friends on Steam, I talked and roleplayed and shared Pokemon rule 34.
I even got into a few e-lationships because I was such a desperate little shit. But then as months went on shit got unstable and my e-friends all started to call me annoying and dumb. They began to mess with my head, play tricks on me, hurt me purposely. I bought them games and stuff but they always came back and were mean to me (Once again, I was a moron) and I was too desperate and too much of a social failure IRL. What I didn't realize is that the internet is large and full of assholes. I went through shit after shit being be afraid of losing what I had with them (Which was nothing when I look back on it now) that it took bigger and bigger tolls on me in real life. One day I even raged so hard at the buildup that I beat the crap out of someone in real life after being physically threatened by them. I got to the police station at 10, was driven to a few places like the doctors office for a shot so that I wouldn't get infections from the scars I had and eventually was thrown into a cell at 4am where all I got was 2 hours of sleep then had to be some slave in shackles for the rest of the day until my family picked me up. These people trolled me and took advantage of my ignorance and desperateness to milk me of money and laughs. I was getting drained and the more pain caused by all of it only made my already bad IRL social life worse. So I finally grew enough braincells to break away. Then I came on Facepunch and read a few advice threads where I learned things such as "DGAF" (Don't give a fuck) and I said that to myself when shit got hard with others in person. Then eventually I came out of my shell and became more social. I woke up to reality and am doing much better. But like 7 months ago I had a run-in with those people again and a few were nice, but one was still the rotten old shit that he was when I left. He was just a total cunt and tried to pull the manipulative crap but I just walked away. Now I'm doing much, much better and people don't label me as that wierd kid.
People online can be assholes, the internets is a harsh place. Newbz up there is right, I was weak. I still am in some ways. What alot people don't seem to understand is that cyber bullying can seriously harm people in real life, when some asshole thinks he's just having laughs that don't actually do much to the person he's targeting, chances are that he could be seriously wrong. He could potentially get others hurt or even killed in rare cases. Especially seeing as the more mentally unstable people become troll targets, look at Encyclopedia dramatica for example. It has loads of articles about mentally unstable people, trolling the wrong person who has the wrong disability could mean destruction of property, or maybe even suicide or murder.
The human race is taking a grim turn, as years go by our morals decline and hurting each other becomes more and more of the norm. Yes, this has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years but it's getting worse and with the internet came a whole new way that people can hurt each other. People hack accounts, steal other peoples money via credit card or paypal, or just purposely offend and pick on others for the "lulz." How people can be so heartless I'll never know.
The only thing I can say is that more people need to realize that as human beings we need to care and look out for each other. We all need to do the right thing and find other ways to get these "lulz" that are somehow so important. But we can't possibly stop all cyberbullying/trolling unless all governments stepped in, regulated the internet and jailed those who broke the rules against it. But we all know that chances are, that'll never happen.
To any readers, I ask of one thing. Don't troll and be a kind person.
You can laugh at me, call me dumb, or disagree with me. Opinions will differ on this post, but this is just my two cents for OP.
[QUOTE=Lucario;35560691]Yeah OP I can contribute because Facepunch bros are bros.
Years ago I was alot younger and dumber and I had no IRL friends because I moved to a new school and was a very socially awkward person, I just avoided people so I was labeled as that quiet kid who's going to shoot up the school someday.
To make up for the lack of a real social life I turned to the program I had recently found: Steam.
I made lots of friends on Steam, I talked and roleplayed and shared Pokemon rule 34.
I even got into a few e-lationships because I was such a desperate little shit. But then as months went on shit got unstable and my e-friends all started to call me annoying and dumb. They began to mess with my head, play tricks on me, hurt me purposely. I bought them games and stuff but they always came back and were mean to me (Once again, I was a moron) and I was too desperate and too much of a social failure IRL. What I didn't realize is that the internet is large and full of assholes. I went through shit after shit being be afraid of losing what I had with them (Which was nothing when I look back on it now) that it took bigger and bigger tolls on me in real life. One day I even raged so hard at the buildup that I beat the crap out of someone in real life after being physically threatened by them. I got to the police station at 10, was driven to a few places like the doctors office for a shot so that I wouldn't get infections from the scars I had and eventually was thrown into a cell at 4am where all I got was 2 hours of sleep then had to be some slave in shackles for the rest of the day until my family picked me up. These people trolled me and took advantage of my ignorance and desperateness to milk me of money and laughs. I was getting drained and the more pain caused by all of it only made my already bad IRL social life worse. So I finally grew enough braincells to break away. Then I came on Facepunch and read a few advice threads where I learned things such as "DGAF" (Don't give a fuck) and I said that to myself when shit got hard with others in person. Then eventually I came out of my shell and became more social. I woke up to reality and am doing much better. But like 7 months ago I had a run-in with those people again and a few were nice, but one was still the rotten old shit that he was when I left. He was just a total cunt and tried to pull the manipulative crap but I just walked away. Now I'm doing much, much better and people don't label me as that wierd kid.
People online can be assholes, the internets is a harsh place. Newbz up there is right, I was weak. I still am in some ways. What alot people don't seem to understand is that cyber bullying can seriously harm people in real life, when some asshole thinks he's just having laughs that don't actually do much to the person he's targeting, chances are that he could be seriously wrong. He could potentially get others hurt or even killed in rare cases. Especially seeing as the more mentally unstable people become troll targets, look at Encyclopedia dramatica for example. It has loads of articles about mentally unstable people, trolling the wrong person who has the wrong disability could mean destruction of property, or maybe even suicide or murder.
The human race is taking a grim turn, as years go by our morals decline and hurting each other becomes more and more of the norm. Yes, this has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years but it's getting worse and with the internet came a whole new way that people can hurt each other. People hack accounts, steal other peoples money via credit card or paypal, or just purposely offend and pick on others for the "lulz." How people can be so heartless I'll never know.
The only thing I can say is that more people need to realize that as human beings we need to care and look out for each other. We all need to do the right thing and find other ways to get these "lulz" that are somehow so important. But we can't possibly stop all cyberbullying/trolling unless all governments stepped in, regulated the internet and jailed those who broke the rules against it. But we all know that chances are, that'll never happen.
To any readers, I ask of one thing. Don't troll and be a kind person.
You can laugh at me, call me dumb, or disagree with me. Opinions will differ on this post, but this is just my two cents for OP.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad to hear you're doing better.
I would like to make a quick injection about our "morals declining". I've seen so many generations say this that I think it may be a logical fallacy. :/ The human race is rotten, that is for certain, but I think this observation is just a side-effect of living within a generation and if you look at the giant picture you would see an improvement in human behavior.
We've progressed a long ways from cave men, but now and again people become the animals that they are.
[QUOTE=newbz;35560145]You have to be extremely weak minded to be a "victim" of cyber bullying..
Seriously, you can just turn your computer off, block the person, create a new account etc.[/QUOTE]
This is [I]exactly[/I] how I see it, but whenever I say this a bunch of idiots always go "oh shut up you dont know what its like theyre being tormented nothing can stop their pain and misery."
No fuck you you're an idiot
Kids and teenagers with low self-esteem tend to be the obvious targets for cyber bullying, because they get attached to their online personas due to having an awkward social life.
ok i will
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[QUOTE=newbz;35560145]You have to be extremely weak minded to be a "victim" of cyber bullying..
Seriously, you can just turn your computer off, block the person, create a new account etc.[/QUOTE]
eh
some people end up having more online friends than real friends, and they treat those online friends very much like real friends, and the reason bullying on the internet works so much better on those people is because whoever is bullying them doesn't even have to show their face
hell, online people probably have even less of an idea of just how much they're fucking with someone's head when they say shit
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35561865]Kids and teenagers with low self-esteem tend to be the obvious targets for cyber bullying, because they get attached to their online personas due to having an awkward social life.[/QUOTE]
I fucking love my "online persona". I'm a motherfucking fire wizard. No, I don't like the rain. No, I don't like swimming. But can all my possessions get destroyed in a house fire? [I]No.[/I] Because I [I]control that shit.[/I] I can surf seas of melting hot lava, I can live within the blazing depths of a volcano, filled to the brim with magma. I can scorch your skin at the flick of a wrist. I can cause starvation within a village simply my alighting their crops with my burning wrath. I can destroy all nature that I touch, scorching soil and grass into a crisp.
With a flash of light, my smoldering magic is revealed. Nothing stands before me and I protect the weak from those that would oppose them. I incinerate all of my enemies who dare cross my path, baking them in a twisted glow of flame and smoke. So I dare you, cyberbullies, to try and harm me. Try to make me feel weak, and you'll find that you will kindle the dragon within me and my fury shall be unleashed upon you. You ,ay hurt the others, you may destroy them, but you cannot hurt me. Should we ever battle, your end shall be met rapidly; a single melting flare of my power and all that remains of you is a bonfire and a charred corpse, and embers that fall from my boots, burning the leather, as I trudge to my next location; your cyberbully partners.
[editline]14th April 2012[/editline]
[sp]i should probably get WoW or some shit, thatd be some badass lord of the rings stuff right there[/sp]
[editline]14th April 2012[/editline]
[sp]this seems very autistic actually but fuck you im a fire wizard[/sp]
[QUOTE=TCB;35562128]I fucking love my "online persona". I'm a motherfucking fire wizard. No, I don't like the rain. No, I don't like swimming. But can all my possessions get destroyed in a house fire? [I]No.[/I] Because I [I]control that shit.[/I] I can surf seas of melting hot lava, I can live within the blazing depths of a volcano, filled to the brim with magma. I can scorch your skin at the flick of a wrist. I can cause starvation within a village simply my alighting their crops with my burning wrath. I can destroy all nature that I touch, scorching soil and grass into a crisp.
With a flash of light, my smoldering magic is revealed. Nothing stands before me and I protect the weak from those that would oppose them. I incinerate all of my enemies who dare cross my path, baking them in a twisted grow of flame and smoke. So I dare you, cyberbullies, to try and harm me. Try to make me feel weak, and you'll find that you will kindle the dragon within me and my wrath shall be unleashed upon you. You can hurt the others, you can destroy them. But you cannot hurt me. Should we ever battle, your end shall be met rapidly; a single melting flare of my power and all that remains of you is a bonfire and a charred corpse, and embers that fall from my boots, burning the leather, as I trudge to my next location; your cyberbully partners.
[editline]14th April 2012[/editline]
[sp]i should probably get WoW or some shit, thatd be some badass lord of the rings stuff right there[/sp]
[editline]14th April 2012[/editline]
[sp]this seems very autistic actually but fuck you im a fire wizard[/sp][/QUOTE]
Off-topic, but roleplaying in WoW is all but dead aside from maybe three servers.
<-----Former WoW roleplayer
Speaking of WoW, that's probably one of the biggest hubs for cyber bullying, since some people tend to be rather attached to their characters and rage hard if they get loot stolen or their account hacked. Not to mention that one of the key draws of an MMO is online interaction.
You might want to make a mention of MMOs in your paper, OP.
OP, you should quote me in your paper.
Cyber bullying never really affected me.
I was (and may still be) socially awkward, and I did turn to the internet as an escape, but instead of learning all of these lessons the hard way I simply took a step back and learned them by observing, sometimes being on the other side of the 'fence' as it were, and simply using my intelligence.
Before I even typed a word back then, I would surf various servers, forums, story boards, and etc to learn the nature of the internet and what I should prepare myself for. I read the stories of 'trolling', I witnessed it first hand, and even joined in a few times. it taught me what to look for and how to make people angry, which also taught me how to detect and resist it.
I learned to embrace my anonymity that the internet grants and to treat everyone on it with about the same trust worthiness of a recent murderer, I completely separate my internet and real life, no face-book, no twitter, no overly revealing steam profile info, and never trusting anyone with anything until you can safely say you know them.
This approach may mean I don't have 500 friends on face-book, or I can't follow the latest celebrity gossip on twitter, but this also means some sleaze bag can't look up my profile and run a snuff campaign against me, nor can someone I destroyed in a match of TF2 or something similar look up my personal info and start mailing me shit.
Call me paranoid, but it worked then and it works now, thats my 10 cents.
how do you even get cyber bullied?
I have practically no social ability whatsoever and basically live on the internet and have been bullied irl a lot, and I still don't see how you can get cyber bullied or how it can affect you at all.
I think it's silly, and hell as long as you aren't being an annoying attention seeking cunt and communicate/e-friend cool and nice people it won't really happen, I fit in the perfect description of a 'target' and I haven't experienced it to any major degree, and you know, you can just ignore the people doing it. That's what I did when I saw a hint of someone being an ass to me, I just ignored him.
Bottom line is that it's only a problem if you let it be one, and even then it's easy to deal with. It's your own fault if you let cyber bullying get to you. Of course there's exceptions, I can see how it can get really annoying/a problem if lots people constantly bomb all of your accounts (email, facebook etc), if it's too many people to block and maybe you have some important things (like accounts) tied to the email so you can't just shut it down.
Everyone, thank you so much for your feedback. I greatly appreciate it. :)
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