how about just make it so you can't get XP from custom games, or get less
this is such an asinine answer to their own problem
that, or make it so you can't get XP from afking
[QUOTE=J!NX;51933568]how about just make it so you can't get XP from custom games, or get less
this is such an asinine answer to their own problem
that, or make it so you can't get XP from afking[/QUOTE]
The article says that Jeff said that they might remove it from skirmish gamemodes
that seems fair tbh
Got to keep the masses buying those lootboxes.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51933568]how about just make it so you can't get XP from custom games, or get less
this is such an asinine answer to their own problem
that, or make it so you can't get XP from afking[/QUOTE]
They are doing it for skirmishes and that's as far as that should go. Blocking all EXP gain is a great way to de-incentivise people from playing custom games completely.
[QUOTE=Duskin;51933710]Got to keep the masses buying those lootboxes.[/QUOTE]
Or you could just, you know, play the game?
[QUOTE=Worstcase;51933721]Or you could just, you know, play the game?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes events happen at inopportune times. I wouldn't spend my time playing Overwatch during finals week, for example.
How long until
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[QUOTE=simzboy;51933823]How long until
[t]https://i.gyazo.com/e29acfb08f02979122b338d5f801dbff.png[/t][/QUOTE]
That would imply Blizzard cares about rewarding its good players and not just punishing its bad ones.
[QUOTE=gk99;51933815]Sometimes events happen at inopportune times. I wouldn't spend my time playing Overwatch during finals week, for example.[/QUOTE]
If you don't have the time to play Overwatch, you probably shouldn't be wasting precious time setting up on an AFK custom game in Overwatch. Regardless of how much time that takes.
[QUOTE=Worstcase;51933948]If you don't have the time to play Overwatch, you probably shouldn't be wasting precious time setting up on an AFK custom game in Overwatch. Regardless of how much time that takes.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you understand the difference between 48 hours and like 5 minutes
[QUOTE=gk99;51933815]Sometimes events happen at inopportune times. I wouldn't spend my time playing Overwatch during finals week, for example.[/QUOTE]
Blizzard can't really do much about this though?
It's not like there's trading you already got the cost of the game if people wanna idle who cares
Watch as people defend this
Just remove XP gains in custom games, and reward crates on bi/tri-daily custom game completion like you do for arcade.
Amount of crates gained due to cheating is capped, people who don't cheat are rewarded for playing custom games.
[QUOTE=simzboy;51933823]How long until
[t]https://i.gyazo.com/e29acfb08f02979122b338d5f801dbff.png[/t][/QUOTE]
what i never understood is why those retards who idled to get hats hated the lament-wearers so much? i remember there were mods to change laments into "FAG" and plugins which autokicked those
its like prisoners hating common folk for not being criminals like they are
[QUOTE=simzboy;51933823]How long until
[t]https://i.gyazo.com/e29acfb08f02979122b338d5f801dbff.png[/t][/QUOTE]
IIRC wasn't this for people who used the 3rd party idle program which fake reported you as being connected to a server?
Valve never touched people who 'legit' AFK'd in servers, you could have 10 clients open in textmode connected to a local dedicated server and they were totally fine with it (Although I don't think this is possible anymore due to changes to the system)
[quote]Kaplan went on to explain that the Overwatch team expected this sort of thing to probably happen, and has an "escalation plan" in place to combat the behavior. The actions taken today—Skirmish mode in custom games ceasing to reward experience, and implementing an AFK timer for the same—are the first steps on that plan. If players don't shape up, the nuclear option means turning off experience gain in custom games altogether.[/quote]
Why did they even bother putting XP in custom games when the first thing anyone would tell you is that people would use it for XP farming straight away.
Maybe they should make better design decisions rather than punishing people for being people and abusing what they see is a grey area in the rules, which in the end harms no-one else.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51933568]how about just make it so you can't get XP from custom games, or get less[/QUOTE]
Part of why custom games are so popular is that you still get normal XP. It doesn't feel like a complete waste of time because you're having fun and still getting your Virtual Cosmetic Rewards.
[QUOTE=CruelAddict;51934657]what i never understood is why those retards who idled to get hats hated the lament-wearers so much? i remember there were mods to change laments into "FAG" and plugins which autokicked those
its like prisoners hating common folk for not being criminals like they are[/QUOTE]
This holier-than-thou attitude was one reason
It was also the irony of seeing people in idle servers wearing it, because valve went out of their way to call cheaters people looking for a more convenient way to idle without having it the game eat up your computer's resources, but idling all day with the game open in the background was just a-ok
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;51935366]I'll tell you a fact about the Halocaust:
There were only two types of people, those who knew about the idling software and those who didn't. People who didn't know about it didn't use it and got rewarded.
And why wouldn't you? It did nothing wrong (imo) and wasn't some high class exploit designed to ruin the games of other people. It just automated what could be done manually just as easily.
A very small amount of people got actually "rewarded" for knowing about the software and choosing not to use it. Most very just lucky, ignorant twats.[/QUOTE]
Since when does not googling "how do I use an external program to get hats faster" make you a lucky ignorant twat
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;51935366]I'll tell you a fact about the Halocaust:
There were only two types of people, those who knew about the idling software and those who didn't. People who didn't know about it didn't use it and got rewarded.
And why wouldn't you? It did nothing wrong (imo) and wasn't some high class exploit designed to ruin the games of other people. It just automated what could be done manually just as easily.
A very small amount of people got actually "rewarded" for knowing about the software and choosing not to use it. Most very just lucky, ignorant twats.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, I knew about it and had friends using it and still chose not to because using an external program to spoof a connection to a server in order to farm hats is kinda obviously a violation of TOS even if it was possible to idle the game anyway. There's a big difference between that and say this where people are literally just using the already laid out mechanics of the system to farm it, this isn't even an exploit being abused so I don't see why Blizz feel the need to punish people for it versus making better design decisions in future and removing it.
Just be glad the only thing Valve did was give people who didn't use 3rd party programs to cheat the system a hat rather than banning people for using it.
I would say the 'ignorant twats' are people who used a 3rd party program to cheat the system and then got mad when they got punished for doing it.
They know you're idle because you're not moving or doing anything, so what if I setup a movement key to toggle, would that class me as not being idle?
[QUOTE=J!NX;51933568]how about just make it so you can't get XP from custom games, or get less
this is such an asinine answer to their own problem
that, or make it so you can't get XP from afking[/QUOTE]
why punish people that actually play custom games?
[QUOTE=Scratch.;51933693]The article says that Jeff said that they might remove it from skirmish gamemodes
[B]that seems fair tbh[/B][/QUOTE]
again, why punish people that play custom games?
[QUOTE=Exploders;51934501]Watch as people defend this[/QUOTE]
what's wrong with discouraging people from "gaming" the system?
[QUOTE=meppers;51937759]why punish people that actually play custom games?
again, why punish people that play custom games?
what's wrong with discouraging people from "gaming" the system?[/QUOTE]
Punish? You act like XP for custom games is a right?
It's only been given to people for the past week or so
There's no objective to skirmish games, no goal, no points
You don't play skirmish, you waste time there, for half an hour or whatever
Glad I stopped playing overwatch
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;51935324]This holier-than-thou attitude was one reason
[/QUOTE]
You just got a hat for doing literally nothing, and suddenly wearing it makes you "holier-than-thou"? Are you fucking insane?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51939741]Glad I stopped playing overwatch[/QUOTE]
Okay? What does this have to do with the article?
Is Blizzard clamping down on people doing nothing but clogging up the custom games browser (which as a feature is frankly a great step in the right direction) that much of a problem for you?
[QUOTE=KillRay;51933982]It's not like there's trading you already got the cost of the game if people wanna idle who cares[/QUOTE]
Your level is directly tied to quickplay matchmaking and access to ranked play so how about we don't let people do that
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51939963]Your level is directly tied to quickplay matchmaking and access to ranked play so how about we don't let people do that[/QUOTE]
this statement actually made me question if csgo has the ability to XP farm to competitive
Holy fucking shit, this crap again? Is Overwatch really going to have its own Halocaust? Is it really [I]that fucking necessary?[/I]
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