• I need some help with buying a new television
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Not the usual hardware you guys get on here but I'm sure you can help me out. I am at my wits end on this one guys. I currently have a 46" Insignia television that I bought many years ago on Black Friday from Best Buy. I now feel like it is time to upgrade. I have researched and gone to a ton of different stores and I still feel lost. I don't want to go up to only a 50" or 55" because that doesn't seem like a worthwhile upgrade. The current deals I have found follow thusly, and I will describe why I am hesitant about each of them. I am only listing televisions that I have been able to see in person, because I'm really not too keen on the idea of buying something this high-ticket without being able to see picture quality, etc. [URL="http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-LC-65UB30U-65-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00V5R8F68"]Sharp-LC-65UB30U[/URL] - 65" - $1,399 - Best Buy - This is by far the best looking and could be the best value television on this list. It is a Sharp Aquos 4k Television, and I've seen it in action and it is simply beautiful. Going home to do my research my heart was crushed to discover that it has an estimated 79.7 ms input lag. That seems incredibly terrible. I am not an avid COD player, nor do I play Destiny or Halo. I mostly play Uncharted, Fallout, MGSV, etc. Not necessarily super fast paced games but I'm really cautious. I guess my major question on this one is really how bad IS input lag? Im not sure I've ever noticed any input lag on any of my other devices before. I have searched in vain for an actual example on the internet but all I can find is a lot of articles describing what input lag is and what it SHOULD look like. Moving on, next TV. [URL="http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E70-C3-70-Inch-1080p-Smart/dp/B00SMBG0S0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1447187152&sr=1-1&keywords=vizio+e+series+70+inch"]Vizio E70-C3[/URL] - 70" - $1,199 - Target - This is another option for me. I have been able to see this one in action at my local Target store, but it is up high and it also is lower-end. This one rates higher on the input lag scale but I have also heard some bad things about Vizio. I have heard that their build quality is low and their warranty is short. Moving on again, next TV. [URL="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-60-class-60-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-black/4563904.p?id=1219768907793&skuId=4563904"]Samsung 60" TV[/URL] - 60" - $799 (Black Friday Deal) - Best Buy - So this is certainly the best deal out there right now, but I can't seem to find any reviews of this television online, so I am not sure how good it is, nor am I sure what its input lag is. There is also the problem with it being a stellar Black Friday deal that I may very well not get this TV on Black Friday, some fat soccer mom with a 364-day grudge to settle may beat me to it. So I guess my questions to you guys include which one you would go with, and if you could give me an example of input lag that would be great, and if you even think it matters. Also, I would not mind if someone found another alternative for me. I would like to stay in the 65" range if possible, but for the right price I could certainly go down to 60". I will update this later if I think of anything else. Thanks for all your help guys.
My in-laws bought a 65' Sharp last year, not 4k but all the fancy features, and it is the best looking tv I have ever seen. I highly recommend. Vizio is also very good. Not a huge fan of Samsung anymore.
[QUOTE=mark6789;49092696]My in-laws bought a 65' Sharp last year, not 4k but all the fancy features, and it is the best looking tv I have ever seen. I highly recommend. Vizio is also very good. Not a huge fan of Samsung anymore.[/QUOTE] Good to know. I'm really leaning towards the sharp. Also, if I am reading correctly, input lag is measured in Milliseconds, and it is said that the sharp has an input lag of 79.7 ms on game mode and 146.3 on any other mode. That seems like an insanely fast amount of time, am I REALLY going to notice that?
I've sold TV's for years, the best advise I can give you is to go to the shop and look at them. Some 2000$ screens are absolutely worse than some 700$ screens. And specs mean very little since the testing standards are almost non existent. You can usually detect good screens fast by looking at the smoothness of moving text like rolling credit's or a news reel. If the text is clear and not stuttering this means that the image processor and usually the contrast are good. You should also avoid screens that have alot of artifacts in the space behind fast moving images. Dont look at color's too much. Almost all TV's have store settings which cranks color, contrast and brightness up to the max. This attracts consumers. However it causes color bloom and artifacting, you would not want this at home as over-saturation tires you really quickly. Try Panasonic and LG as well. They make great screens. Especially Panasonics's plasma's are great and actually really good for gaming. Plasma's are better in almost every way compared to LCD tv's. The only real downsides are slightly higher energy usage if you are sitting in a bright room and a fatter screen. Burn in issues are non existent nowadays. But sadly are the reason they are not very popular anymore. LG makes a lot of LCD panels for other brands btw, sometimes a budget LG has the same panel as a first class sharp/toshiba/panasonic. Really good screens, just lack smart tv stuff. [editline]11th November 2015[/editline] For gaming, you imput lag should really be lower than 25ms btw. Under 16 would be ideal as 60 fps = 16.66ms per frame.
[QUOTE=taipan;49095411]Helpful words.[/QUOTE] Thank you. I'll keep all that in consideration when I'm looking. And thanks for helping me out with the Input Lag thing.
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