• Computer freezing with no BSOD (PSU?)
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So I've got a bit of a problem with my computer and I can't pinpoint the problem. I've ran memtest and plenty of stress tools trying to figure it out but nothing. It literally just freezes and never blue screens, I've tried everything in my power to figure it out and I'm stumped. My only guess is a bad PSU/GPU/Mobo but I don't know how to narrow it down. I've tried everything including disconnecting unnecessary hard drives and cd drive and sound card and nothing changes. Any ideas outside of getting a multimeter? I've checked voltages in HWMonitor and they were nominal values but I know windows can report inaccurate voltages. I've checked temps, nothing out of the ordinary. I set the timings for RAM manually and basically reseated everything inside. I checked the GPU voltage under eVGA Precision and it was .988 or so, I've heard most people using a GTX480 have a stock voltage of around 1v so I cranked it to 1v from ~.988 or so and the problem instantly reproduced. It's a very random problem to reproduce and it can happen at any time I'm doing something but if I'm gaming I get no signal after the freeze whereas within windows I just get a static color and repeating sound. If you read my previous posts I sent off my old GPU for failing a few months ago and I'm starting to wonder if it was ever even the actual problem. It's stressing me out since I should know what the issue is but I don't. Any ideas? Will a place like Best Buy test your PSU for free or cheap? We have no local PC stores any longer. Should I RMA the PSU? (Said PSU is a Corsair TX-750W not some cheapo part)
Do a Ctrl + shift + esc, and see if there's a program running in the background that uses up your memory. Seems like a virus/malware is chewing your memory. The fact that I currently uses Corsair TX 750W PSU has yet to fail me for more than five years.
[QUOTE=Skibur;47057087]Do a Ctrl + shift + esc, and see if there's a program running in the background that uses up your memory. Seems like a virus/malware is chewing your memory. The fact that I currently uses Corsair TX 750W PSU has yet to fail me for more than five years.[/QUOTE] My RAM usage when it happens is never over 4GB or so and I have 16GB. Even with everything open that I used to leave open I've never used more than 10GB of physical memory. I've had mine for just under 5 years this year, the warranty runs out in September. Prime95/Memtest both ran cleanly with no errors, and the problem is extremely intermittent but has slowly gotten worse, today I gave up since it failed last night and today I literally had nothing but my browser and eVGA Precision running and it froze within 10 minutes. I turned off the restart on BSOD feature to see if I could force one but I never get a blue screen. My GPU drivers crash randomly from time to time and I've upgraded and then safe mode cleaned the drivers off and put the previous ones on and the driver makes no difference either.
Are you constantly tweaking your Precision? I know my my GTX 550, if I tweak the voltage too high for the core clock it will cause the GPU drivers to crash and freeze my computer. Sometimes it BSODs, sometimes it doesn't. Likewise, if I have the core clock too high above my voltage needs, it just simply freezes my computer.
[QUOTE=mastoner20;47057223]Are you constantly tweaking your Precision? I know my my GTX 550, if I tweak the voltage too high for the core clock it will cause the GPU drivers to crash and freeze my computer. Sometimes it BSODs, sometimes it doesn't. Likewise, if I have the core clock too high above my voltage needs, it just simply freezes my computer.[/QUOTE] Nah I've never tweaked with precision outside of fan profiles being tighter since the 480 stock runs too hot for my liking and I don't mind the noise since I wear headphones at the computer. I've never OC'd it was just curious to see if slightly tweaking the voltage would make the system unstable and sure enough it froze instantly. I'm having a friend test the PSU for me tomorrow but it still sucks knowing I'll be out a computer for a while. Hopefully it gets to the root because if not I'm even more baffled. Never RMA'd with corsair before.
If it was a PSU issue, you would most likely get a BSOD, or some kind of indicator from your BIO stating that you lack information. Either that, or your video card would crash frequently for insufficient power. There's something else missing here. When was the last time you defrag your hard drive?
[QUOTE=Skibur;47058112]If it was a PSU issue, you would most likely get a BSOD, or some kind of indicator from your BIO stating that you lack information. Either that, or your video card would crash frequently for insufficient power. There's something else missing here. When was the last time you defrag your hard drive?[/QUOTE] I haven't since I put in a new hard drive and installed windows in September replacing an older hard drive that was throwing SMART warnings. But last time I analyzed it there was no fragmentation. And my GPU has been crashing, either via the driver or completely into no signal. A month or so ago it did that and I reseated it and it stopped. It has gradually gotten to the point where it actually freezes or crashes at least once a day, three times since last night so I gave up on trying to run it.
Also the computer will run 100% fine in safe mode or without nvidia drivers as far as I can tell. The instant I went to install them fresh I got no signal.
Hard freezes where the screen remains static and sound loops are usually the motherboard Hard freezes where the screen first changes in some way (solid colour, black, no signal, etc.) and sound loops are usually the GPU
If it was the PSU the system would just restart as if you pressed the reset button.
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;47059977]Hard freezes where the screen remains static and sound loops are usually the motherboard Hard freezes where the screen first changes in some way (solid colour, black, no signal, etc.) and sound loops are usually the GPU[/QUOTE] I've had a mixture of both, but mostly the second until it's gotten worse and worse. I guess I should RMA the GPU since it's under warranty. Should I RMA the PSU too and get them back at the same time to be safe or would it be futile if they view everything on it as fine.
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;47064484]I've had a mixture of both, but mostly the second until it's gotten worse and worse. I guess I should RMA the GPU since it's under warranty. Should I RMA the PSU too and get them back at the same time to be safe or would it be futile if they view everything on it as fine.[/QUOTE] It's probably not your PSU at fault You can test this by running Furmark for a while. If it crashes, likely just the GPU. If not, introduce prime95 simultaneously, and if it crashes at this point then it could be the PSU.
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;47067102]It's probably not your PSU at fault You can test this by running Furmark for a while. If it crashes, likely just the GPU. If not, introduce prime95 simultaneously, and if it crashes at this point then it could be the PSU.[/QUOTE] Yeah I tried both and they ran fine. It was extremely intermittent. I've borrowed a spare GTX480 and so far it hasn't given me any issues (fingers crossed). I had the system running this morning for 4 - 5 hours at a time by underclocking the GPU and it seemed stable until I fell asleep though. So far, this borrowed GTX480 is drawing more voltage to run according to HWMonitor but it hasn't had a problem yet. (Previous card never went above .963v or so even in 3D mode, this one runs at 1.038 in 3D mode)
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