[IMG]http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/noobtrap3000/massgenerator.jpg[/IMG]
would it work?
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or would the alt need to be a higher amperage
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yea i have my doubts too
there is only one way to find out
i don't really know what's happening in that image.
but yes you can connect things to a car battery and they'll run if you have an inverter. i have no idea why that stuff on the top left is there
I have no idea if that would work or not, because it is not a valid circuit diagram.
No it won't.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion[/url]
oh is that what you're trying to do?
well the first law of thermodynamics says no
Why can't you just use an outlet like everyone else?
This looks risky, 90 amps seems low to me.
it looks complicated and Im utter shit with circuit diagrams
but what it is is a motor drives a car alt and the car alt is powering the motor
the inverter is also hooked up to the alt
all the car battery does is starts the motor spinning
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triple ninja'd
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[QUOTE=uber sky;18387660]Why can't you just use an outlet like everyone else?[/QUOTE]
maybe i want to save a couple of quid on the electricity bills?
that will not save any money.
first law of thermodynamics.
ok then the conclusion is: no it wont work and the pic in the OP is a load of scribble made in MS paint
yes.
thank you
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thats all i really needed to know
I think thermodynamics is quite safe here since I imagine a generator would need fuel to run.
This is the second thread in the past few days where someone have proposed a perpetual motion device. A true perpetual motion device [i]will not work[/i], no matter what you think.
[QUOTE=AlarinTaylor;18396789]This is the second thread in the past few days where someone have proposed a perpetual motion device. A true perpetual motion device [i]will not work[/i], no matter what you think.[/QUOTE]
not yet at least, who knows what science may bring us?
:science:
Earth is a perpetual motion device.
No friction in space. :D
[QUOTE=BmB;18396961]Earth is a perpetual motion device.
No friction in space. :D[/QUOTE]
There are many things that appears to be perpetual motion devices, but are actually not due to something like a hidden source of input or a very long slow-down time. (In the magnitude of billions of years.) The one exception being subatomic particles, but even they may draw energy from something else that we have not yet discovered.
That is the most ridiculous image ever.
For all intents and purposes Earth will continue moving forever.
Even if it did work, you'd be drawing 710W from a 750W inverter, which is cutting it kinda close. They're capable of supplying that kind of draw for short periods, but extended heavy loads like that will result in failure eventually.
[QUOTE=BmB;18399051]For all intents and purposes Earth will continue moving forever.[/QUOTE]
For all [i]our[/i] intents and purposes :tinfoil:
OP, your drawing should work. For a while at least. Its nothing more than a car with the engine replaced with an electric motor. You would need a large generator to keep it providing suffecient power just to keep itself running, let alone power a computer. Might work if you had a few car batteries wired into it and had the computer run off the batteries while the motor charges them. You would have to turn off the computer every now and then to let the motor recharge the batteries.
[QUOTE=FordLord;18423885]OP, your drawing should work. For a while at least. Its nothing more than a car with the engine replaced with an electric motor. You would need a large generator to keep it providing suffecient power just to keep itself running, let alone power a computer. Might work if you had a few car batteries wired into it and had the computer run off the batteries while the motor charges them. You would have to turn off the computer every now and then to let the motor recharge the batteries.[/QUOTE]
Then why bother with the motor / generator ? What you are effectively proposing is to connect an inverter to a large battery. Nothing will charge the battery and hence he will not see any benefit other than it functioning like a basic UPS. You cannot create energy. (Although you can convert mass to energy, but that's another story.)
[QUOTE=BmB;18399051]For all intents and purposes Earth will continue moving forever.[/QUOTE]
What's your point
jeez just kill this thread already
[QUOTE=reapaninja;18396837]not yet at least, who knows what science may bring us?[/QUOTE]
Due to the laws of physics, perpetual motion is impossible. As something begins to move, it does work, and as work increases, so does the kinetic energy. Unfortunately, kinetic energy requires a force to continue to stay constant as friction is also a variable in this situation. Whatever does work uses energy, which is usually an external force. And what is required by the external force? Energy. It's just not possible for perpetual motion.
Perpetual motion is possible, provided there is no friction.
I learned this back in 7th grade, energy cannot be created or destroyed. So as long as there is no friction, there is nothing to convert kinetic energy into thermal energy.
So pretty much do this in a vacuum, and it might halfway work.
I hope if you ever attempt to build this anyway you treat this diagram as to scale.
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