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Great news. Nuff said
I'm not sure if this is great news, it's another operating system to have to cater apps for, unless it has the ability to run Android apps
Looks very much like MeeGo on the N9.
I hope they let people port it over to other phones.
If I could dual-boot this with Android on my Galaxy S2, sign me up.
and ofcourse they let a neckbeard do the presentation
[QUOTE=FlashStock;39072129]and ofcourse they let a neckbeard do the presentation[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't exactly call Mark Shuttleworth by that, neckbeard implies a proper neckbeard, like we're talking Stallman here.
And he's kind of the founder of the fucking company, so I can't really imagine anyone better than him for this.
He's to Canonical as what Jobs was to Apple.
[QUOTE=nikomo;39072169]I wouldn't exactly call Mark Shuttleworth by that, neckbeard implies a proper neckbeard, like we're talking Stallman here.
And he's kind of the founder of the fucking company, so I can't really imagine anyone better than him for this.
He's to Canonical as what Jobs was to Apple.[/QUOTE]
ok fine, but he has a neckstache
[QUOTE=FlashStock;39072244]ok fine, but he has a neckstache[/QUOTE]
Obviously this makes him inferior.
[QUOTE=MTMod;39078986]Obviously this makes him inferior.[/QUOTE]
Nope
How about the features? Or perhaps the docking feature?
Seeing how my phone has more cores than school laptop I would rather dock phone at school (for whatever reason) than carrying my laptop.
Also this could be pretty useful in some work fields.
Part of me is really excited for Phonebuntu. Mostly the same part of me that was stoked for Ubuntu for Android, but still. I really like the idea of having fewer devices that do more things, after the hassle of carrying around a notebook, gameboy/psp/ds, dump phone, ipod, laptop, etc.
I didn't like the idea of no lock screen though. Maybe I missed out on that being a bunch of hyperbole, but having my phone not lock and then go haywire in my pocket is such a ridiculous pain in the ass
[QUOTE=P1X3;39119628]How about the features? Or perhaps the docking feature?
Seeing how my phone has more cores than school laptop I would rather dock phone at school (for whatever reason) than carrying my laptop.
Also this could be pretty useful in some work fields.[/QUOTE]
Because clockspeed and amount of cores is all that counts, right?
I actually wonder if you could do a live linux boot by plugging this phone into a computer. Then again, not sure how the bootable partition/drive would work.
[QUOTE=Forge43;39120180]I actually wonder if you could do a live linux boot by plugging this phone into a computer. Then again, not sure how the bootable partition/drive would work.[/QUOTE]
That's not what this is for
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;39070709]I'm not sure if this is great news, it's another operating system to have to cater apps for, unless it has the ability to run Android apps[/QUOTE]
It probably will, at some point. Android and Ubuntu are both Linux-based. I don't think there's any real reason you couldn't port Dalvik over to Ubuntu.
(EDIT: Well, I guess you'd also have to have the Android framework, not just Dalvik. So that might be a problem. Dalvik is like Java VM; it just runs the actual CPU-level commands. Android Framework is like Swing/AWT and the Java Framework; it contains all the libraries that actually do GUI and other system operations. You'd need Android API too.
Let me simplify that. Android consists of three parts: Dalvik VM, Android API, and Android Framework.)
[QUOTE=Forge43;39120180]I actually wonder if you could do a live linux boot by plugging this phone into a computer. Then again, not sure how the bootable partition/drive would work.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure why you'd want to, from all of the presentation so far it looks like it'll support docking with a monitor so you can use desktop Ubuntu running on the phone itself.
[QUOTE=danharibo;39153289]I'm not sure why you'd want to, from all of the presentation so far it looks like it'll support docking with a monitor so you can use desktop Ubuntu running on the phone itself.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you want to run something other than Ubuntu? When you dock it of course.
[QUOTE=TheCreeper;39158820]Perhaps you want to run something other than Ubuntu? When you dock it of course.[/QUOTE]
So install some other desktop environment?
Is this going to be for the Nexus only, or do you think they'll eventually port it to other devices?
My Droid Razr M for example.
[QUOTE=Adelle Zhu;39159734]Is this going to be for the Nexus only, or do you think they'll eventually port it to other devices?
My Droid Razr M for example.[/QUOTE]
They'll be releasing their own device next year, other than that I don't think it'll get onto any other devices unless there's a lot of demand for a particular device.
[QUOTE=danharibo;39181874]They'll be releasing their own device next year, other than that I don't think it'll get onto any other devices unless there's a lot of demand for a particular device.[/QUOTE]
god fucking dammit
It will be interesting to see how much of a hold they have over the market with Ubuntu Phone if any...
I think it has big potential if they get it right.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;39070709]I'm not sure if this is great news, it's another operating system to have to cater apps for, unless it has the ability to run Android apps[/QUOTE]If you look at it this way, the first Android phones like the HTC Magic barely had any programs written for them at the time, compared to the i-phone 3GS and 3G. Ubuntu could catch up, people may hack the phone so it can run Android programs.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;39187721]If you look at it this way, the first Android phones like the HTC Magic barely had any programs written for them at the time, compared to the i-phone 3GS and 3G. Ubuntu could catch up, people may hack the phone so it can run Android programs.[/QUOTE]
Except that analogy doesn't work because unlike Android this won't gain any traction at all. I work for a carrier in Canada, and I can tell you right now that carriers are not going to carry Ubuntu phones, it's completely against their best interests to have phones they can't control. That's why WP7 had so much trouble with zero tolerance for changes, and the iPhone is the only real exception because carriers are crippled without it so they deal with Apple's demands.
if my carrier picks them up I'm buying one
I'll be installing this on my phone as soon as I can!
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39188977]Except that analogy doesn't work because unlike Android this won't gain any traction at all. I work for a carrier in Canada, and I can tell you right now that carriers are not going to carry Ubuntu phones, it's completely against their best interests to have phones they can't control. That's why WP7 had so much trouble with zero tolerance for changes, and the iPhone is the only real exception because carriers are crippled without it so they deal with Apple's demands.[/QUOTE]
Define 'control', because Canonical will work with carriers for branding and integrating their applications.
[QUOTE=danharibo;39193109]Define 'control', because Canonical will work with carriers for branding and integrating their applications.[/QUOTE]
Any update or changes must go through the carrier. Features must be removed if requested, such as tethering/mobile hotspot. Like you said there'll be the need for branding and applications. Carriers can also request certain apps from the OS be removed or disabled or whatever.
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Also OEMs are going to want to be able to put their own apps and to customize the OS however they want visually. Otherwise they'll stay with Android.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39193139]Any update or changes must go through the carrier. Features must be removed if requested, such as tethering/mobile hotspot. Like you said there'll be the need for branding and applications. Carriers can also request certain apps from the OS be removed or disabled or whatever.
[editline]12th January 2013[/editline]
Also OEMs are going to want to be able to put their own apps and to customize the OS however they want visually. Otherwise they'll stay with Android.[/QUOTE]
Most of that should be possible, I imagine the main point will be that Canonical would forbid blocking the removal of applications.
this will be as popular as web os
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