hey FP, i am really confused why people play with SetFSB,clockgen with their dells and prebuilts, especially laptops. I'm sure everybody knows you should not mess with SetFSB unless you are overclocking for records (where you need your RAM to stay at the same strap/speed). But I see tons of people using it to overclock their dells and shit.
Don't people know that this is very dangerous? You can damage your CPUs PLL permanently so damn easily, it isn't even funny. (PLL = clock generator).
the only relatively safe software overclockers are usually motherboard based (direct access to the motherboard, not the PLL) like turboV, E-Leet, and whatever that gigabyte one was.. probably a few others. these are all for the i7s though.. Even those I don't trust too much. I barley use them anyway.. BIOS is just more reliable.
What are your thoughts on SetFSB/clockgen? I'm personally sick of everybody using it to overclock their CPU unless they are benchmarking or going for xtremes.
I'm sorry for trolling about it on armedxforce, hehe, i am done with it anyway.
Hey, those prebuilt Dells and laptops: do you think they even HAVE BIOS overclocking? For some, software overclocking is the only option!
Or what about people who only need the overclock for running games or video processing, and reverting to stock when finished? Much more convenient with software than restarting.
And maybe underclocking a laptop CPU, to use less power when its not needed.
There's plenty of uses for software overclocking; for example, the prebuilt my parents bought has a shitty Intel motherboard, and an E6400. Using SetFSB, I was able to bump it from 2.1 GHz to 2.5 GHz with noticable increase in performance; not possible with BIOS.
And of course its dangerous! All overclocking is dangerous, to a degree. You just have to weigh the risks against the benefits. Why would people go for insanely high overclocks on LN2/DICE if they could fry their entire computer? Because its a challange! Why do people overclock their computers at all? Performance for little cost.
Burning out your parts can be pretty expensive.
[QUOTE=Error_404;16999681]Hey, those prebuilt Dells and laptops: do you think they even HAVE BIOS overclocking? For some, software overclocking is the only option!
Or what about people who only need the overclock for running games or video processing, and reverting to stock when finished? Much more convenient with software than restarting.
And maybe underclocking a laptop CPU, to use less power when its not needed.
There's plenty of uses for software overclocking; for example, the prebuilt my parents bought has a shitty Intel motherboard, and an E6400. Using SetFSB, I was able to bump it from 2.1 GHz to 2.5 GHz with noticable increase in performance; not possible with BIOS.
And of course its dangerous! All overclocking is dangerous, to a degree. You just have to weigh the risks against the benefits. Why would people go for insanely high overclocks on LN2/DICE if they could fry their entire computer? Because its a challange! Why do people overclock their computers at all? Performance for little cost.[/QUOTE]
Overclocking isn't dangerous AT ALL if you run it under the correct mechanical, thermal, and electrical specifications. 2.1 to 2.5 is only 400 MHz -- nearly anybody can do that, and you can run it usually under stock volts.
hey guise i have a prebuilt dell with q9400 2.66 GHZ is there a way i can overlock it but no via bios? (doesnt work)
How easy is it to prove software overclocking? (Pure theoretically thinking waranty)
If they want to break their computer let them
[QUOTE=camper182;17001073]hey guise i have a prebuilt dell with q9400 2.66 GHZ is there a way i can overlock it but no via bios? (doesnt work)[/QUOTE]
:cawg:
Anyway, most prebuilts have their BIOS locked. So the only way to overclock is with software.
stop being butthurt, chances are they want to squeeze put as much as they can. SETFSB will work it is the same program as eleet and tourboV and AIsuite, the companies just added a cool UI
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;17001876]:cawg:
Anyway, most prebuilts have their BIOS locked. So the only way to overclock is with software.[/QUOTE]
You know the name of software like that?
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;17001940]stop being butthurt, chances are they want to squeeze put as much as they can. SETFSB will work it is the same program as eleet and tourboV and AIsuite, the companies just added a cool UI[/QUOTE]
not quite, AIsuite isn't realtime. And TurboV wont work on a Gigabyte UD5 or whatever, because it uses certain functions of the motherboard, which gigabyte might not have, or the gigabyte uses a diff way to do it.
SetFSB and cloclgen are much more dangerous to use, because the motherboards are not DESIGNED to be using SetFSB. Hell, if they were designed for it, then it would be safe. But because it isn't, It has quite the chance of breaking (i would think) because apparently some clock generators you can select may be motherboard vendor specific, and if you select one of them, it could possibly damage the processor. But i would think if you used the one that is specific to your vendor, then it should work pretty well.
You are going to say "yeah but why would you make a mistake like that"
well sometimes there isn't the one for your vendor.
Just my theory, I would not call it BS so soon, because I have seen processors getting damaged by this program.
I kind of stated myself wrong, i should of said, setFSB is dangerous if you are not 100 percent sure of blah blah. Oh well.
If you can prove me otherwise, please do so, that is the whole point.
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also isn't there a way to unlock some BIOSes using cracked updates?
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[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;17001940]stop being butthurt, chances are they want to squeeze put as much as they can. SETFSB will work it is the same program as eleet and tourboV and AIsuite, the companies just added a cool UI[/QUOTE]
quoted again
TurboV lets you change your Vcc, IOH (northbridge) ICH (southbridge) VTT, PLL and a few other voltages In windows, it isn't just BCLK.
You're talking bullshit. Software overclocking is no more dangerous than overclocking from the BIOS.
I use software overclocking on my Eee 901. I set CPU speed to 1GHz and it does everything fine. Youtube is a bit choppy but for that 1.3 or the stock 1.6GHz will play it fine. Saves some battery for me.
guys can you give me the name or link of software like that please?
I had a shitty mobo; Intel DP35DP and it doesn't have any overclocking options in BIOS. Tried SetFSB and it worked beautifully, raised my E4500 from 2.2 GHz to 2.87 GHz. 2.9 GHz is possible but unstable.
It's not dangerous.
[QUOTE=camper182;17007075]guys can you give me the name or link of software like that please?[/QUOTE]
thread title, read it
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[QUOTE=dtoporowski;17004248]not quite, AIsuite isn't realtime. And TurboV wont work on a Gigabyte UD5 or whatever, because it uses certain functions of the motherboard, which gigabyte might not have, or the gigabyte uses a diff way to do it.
SetFSB and cloclgen are much more dangerous to use, because the motherboards are not DESIGNED to be using SetFSB. Hell, if they were designed for it, then it would be safe. But because it isn't, It has quite the chance of breaking (i would think) because apparently some clock generators you can select may be motherboard vendor specific, and if you select one of them, it could possibly damage the processor. But i would think if you used the one that is specific to your vendor, then it should work pretty well.
You are going to say "yeah but why would you make a mistake like that"
well sometimes there isn't the one for your vendor.
Just my theory, I would not call it BS so soon, because I have seen processors getting damaged by this program.
I kind of stated myself wrong, i should of said, setFSB is dangerous if you are not 100 percent sure of blah blah. Oh well.
If you can prove me otherwise, please do so, that is the whole point.
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also isn't there a way to unlock some BIOSes using cracked updates?
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quoted again
TurboV lets you change your Vcc, IOH (northbridge) ICH (southbridge) VTT, PLL and a few other voltages In windows, it isn't just BCLK.[/QUOTE]
"overclocking is dangerous if you don't know what your doing"
Which is why I wonder why you make the thread, if you are dumb then it won't make a difference if you do it program or bios
overclocking lowers your CPU's life, whether or not you do it thru the BIOS or Software
but you'll probably have a new PC by the time the CPU would have died, so BIOS OC'ing is ok. dunno about software, haven't and not going to try it.
No.
[QUOTE=BananasGoMoo;17014700]overclocking lowers your CPU's life, whether or not you do it thru the BIOS or Software
but you'll probably have a new PC by the time the CPU would have died, so BIOS OC'ing is ok. dunno about software, haven't and not going to try it.[/QUOTE]
Wrong. Heat is the main killer of a cpu's life, not overclocking. That why you buy an aftermarket cooler, when your gonna overclock.
[QUOTE=NIGHTHAWK365;17014915]Wrong. Heat is the main killer of a cpu's life, not overclocking. That why you buy an aftermarket cooler, when your gonna overclock.[/QUOTE]
it does shorten the life regardless the heat it stresses the traces, if I apply more water in a pipe then it is suppose to handle then it will break sooner, same with the traces
[QUOTE=dtoporowski;17004248]not quite, AIsuite isn't realtime. And TurboV wont work on a Gigabyte UD5 or whatever, because it uses certain functions of the motherboard, which gigabyte might not have, or the gigabyte uses a diff way to do it.
SetFSB and cloclgen are much more dangerous to use, because the motherboards are not DESIGNED to be using SetFSB. Hell, if they were designed for it, then it would be safe. But because it isn't, It has quite the chance of breaking (i would think) because apparently some clock generators you can select may be motherboard vendor specific, and if you select one of them, it could possibly damage the processor. But i would think if you used the one that is specific to your vendor, then it should work pretty well.
You are going to say "yeah but why would you make a mistake like that"
well sometimes there isn't the one for your vendor.
Just my theory, I would not call it BS so soon, because I have seen processors getting damaged by this program.
I kind of stated myself wrong, i should of said, setFSB is dangerous if you are not 100 percent sure of blah blah. Oh well.
If you can prove me otherwise, please do so, that is the whole point.
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also isn't there a way to unlock some BIOSes using cracked updates?
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quoted again
TurboV lets you change your Vcc, IOH (northbridge) ICH (southbridge) VTT, PLL and a few other voltages In windows, it isn't just BCLK.[/QUOTE]
AI Suite is real time, what are you talking about? I used it to overclock my FSB and then I would go into BIOS and fix my voltages and shit.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;17015059]it does shorten the life regardless the heat it stresses the traces, if I apply more water in a pipe then it is suppose to handle then it will break sooner, same with the traces[/QUOTE]
yea, if you do it safely (don't overclock much) it won't make much of a difference to the CPU life.
i'm gonna play with SetFSB and i'm gonna get away with it.
how you like me now?
[QUOTE=Odellus;17015077]AI Suite is real time, what are you talking about? I used it to overclock my FSB and then I would go into BIOS and fix my voltages and shit.[/QUOTE]
Really? I had to restart, maybe my P5Q didn't support realtime. But you can damage your CPU using setFSB apparently, my friend has a P45 motherboard, but he set it to another type/revision of the P45 and it broke it.
Maybe he's a troll.
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[QUOTE=The Pro;17015171]i'm gonna play with SetFSB and i'm gonna get away with it.
how you like me now?[/QUOTE]
I don't care.
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[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;17015059]it does shorten the life regardless the heat it stresses the traces, if I apply more water in a pipe then it is suppose to handle then it will break sooner, same with the traces[/QUOTE]
It wont damage it as long as it is within electrical and mechanical specifications, which most of the time are not usually met.. which is why it degrades it.
that pipe can take "5" gallons of water every minute, but the maximum safe rating is 10 gallons per minute.
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o fuck that's one clogged pipe
[QUOTE=dtoporowski;17027587]Really? I had to restart, maybe my P5Q didn't support realtime. But you can damage your CPU using setFSB apparently, my friend has a P45 motherboard, but he set it to another type/revision of the P45 and it broke it.
Maybe he's a troll.
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I don't care.
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It wont damage it as long as it is within electrical and mechanical specifications, which most of the time are not usually met.. which is why it degrades it.
that pipe can take "5" gallons of water every minute, but the maximum safe rating is 10 gallons per minute.
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o fuck that's one clogged pipe[/QUOTE]
I'm using the Maximus II Formula.
well that explains that i guess.
good god i need to stop believing what my friends say, i personally have used SetFSB a lot and I never have any trouble, and until he said that i stopped.. what an ass :(
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