It's still a theory.
Here come the dumbs and disagrees.
And a few agrees.
And maybe a winner.
It hasn't been proven. There is no way to prove it until we've witnessed it, and as a species we are far too young.
You can't say it's fact without a massive religious shitstorm.
For the same reason that it's still called the "theory of relativity." Theory is tantamount to being fact in science.
Because people don't know the meaning of the word theory in a scientific context, including all of the above posts.
edit: except for johnnymo
[QUOTE=Chrille;26405988]Because people don't know the meaning of the word theory in a scientific context, including all of the above posts.[/QUOTE]
One post sooner and you would have been right.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;26405981]For the same reason that it's still called the "theory of relativity." Theory is tantamount to being fact in science.[/QUOTE]
i don't know what tantamount means but it's johnnymo so i will assume this is correct
Scientific theory = observable, measurable, and repeatable.
Evolution has not been observed. Scientists state that evolution takes massive amounts of time, so there's no way of witnessing it.
It is still called a theory, because it has not been proven.
Science has proven that micro versions of evolution occur, but cannot recreate one such as primates turning into homoerectus which in turn becomes homosapien.
It has nothing to do with religion. Science and religion for the most part are entirely separate and do not yield to one another.
Cause it's still a theory. And it's a good thing, since it may not be exacly how we think it is. As a theory we can openly tweak it and change, directed by the evidence we find.
[QUOTE=BURG;26406009]Scientific theory = observable, measurable, and repeatable.
Evolution has not been observed. Scientists state that evolution takes massive amounts of time, so there's no way of witnessing it.[/QUOTE]
Fossil record.
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Wow FT is baaad at science.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;26406039]Fossil record.
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Wow FT is baaad at science.[/QUOTE]
Where are the fossils that show an animal/creature during the mid-phases of evolution, though?
And that's where punctuated equilibrium comes in.
[QUOTE=BURG;26406083]Where are the fossils that show an animal/creature during the mid-phases of evolution, though?
And that's where punctuated equilibrium comes in.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeopteryx[/url]
[QUOTE=BURG;26406083]Where are the fossils that show an animal/creature during the mid-phases of evolution, though?
And that's where punctuated equilibrium comes in.[/QUOTE]
there is no mid-phase of evolution
[QUOTE=Chrille;26406146]there is no mid-phase of evolution[/QUOTE]
Why is there no mid-phase?
How is it possible for an animal to evolve from A to B without any changes in the middle of the evolutionary process?
[QUOTE=BURG;26406338]Why is there no mid-phase?
How is it possible for an animal to evolve from A to B without any changes in the middle of the evolutionary process?[/QUOTE]
There never was a point A or B.
Animals always Evolve.
[QUOTE=BURG;26406338]Why is there no mid-phase?
How is it possible for an animal to evolve from A to B without any changes in the middle of the evolutionary process?[/QUOTE]
An ancient ape did not just birth a modern human one day.
[QUOTE=BURG;26406083]Where are the fossils that show an animal/creature during the mid-phases of evolution, though?
And that's where punctuated equilibrium comes in.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure they have almost complete horse evolutionary fossils? or something along the lines of that
Also, fairly recently there have been those lizards that have started giving birth to live young, because its more advantageous in cold climates.
Plus you can show this sort thing in a petri dish with some viruses and bacteria if you like, as well as community antibiotic resistance and the like
[QUOTE=BURG;26406338]Why is there no mid-phase?
How is it possible for an animal to evolve from A to B without any changes in the middle of the evolutionary process?[/QUOTE]
Because a species doesn't evolve from A to B.
Sure, you could say: "how did the rat-like monkey species that lived millions of years ago reach the point where it's classified as homo sapiens" and there would be plenty of fossils to show the gradual change, but saying that something evolves from A to B is wrong because it's a constant process
edit: I see I was beat to it again
[QUOTE=BURG;26406338]Why is there no mid-phase?
How is it possible for an animal to evolve from A to B without any changes in the middle of the evolutionary process?[/QUOTE]
Because evolution is no race from A to B.
Let's take your hand and put it in front of you. Now put it up in the air. There are very, very minor changes between your hand when you had it in front of you and when you put it up in the air, but it's not the same hand. Far from, things have changed, skin has grown older, you've gained more blood cells, it's warmer/colder. Evolution is tiny, tiny changes happening over thousands if not millions of years, and it's really, really hard to for something to be conserved with the way earth is constantly changing.
For every fossil of an animal we find there are atleast a thousand animals that never fossilated.
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[QUOTE=Icedshot;26406476]Pretty sure they have almost complete horse evolutionary fossils? or something along the lines of that
Also, fairly recently there have been those lizards that have started giving birth to live young, because its more advantageous in cold climates.
Plus you can show this sort thing in a petri dish with some viruses and bacteria if you like, as well as community antibiotic resistance and the like[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's called microevolution.
Edit ; beaten like a crackwhore
In coming shitstorm
You know, I have a physics teacher that also believes in God and does not accept the Big bang theory nor evolution theory.
In a way, I kinda agree with him. He showed us some really good experience. Not a brainwash in any way, but then again, school is brainwashing in a way.
Evolution hasn't been proven without solid evidence.
I myself think that religion and evolution theory can live side by side, just like Wave–particle duality proved.
Honestly I think there is a higher force than we know and I am glad because of that.
People tend to rely too much on science and bash religions because of that.
God created evolution?
Evolution has been proven, but there's a difference between the "fact of evolution" and the "theory of evolution".
The evolutionary fact is: animals indeed evolved.
The theory of evolution tells us about the mechanisms by which animals evolve, this includes the Darwinian evolutionary science, which tells us about evolution by the means of gradual natural selection. This mechanism is widely excepted, but in recent years, animals have been observed to evolve so fast that you can't possibly call it 'gradual'. (ex.: the grasshoppers of Hawaii stopped making sounds due to the introduction of a robber fly species) This doesn't mean the Darwinian theory of evolution is wrong, it just means that it doesn't cover evolution completely.
It would be ignorant to say we know everything, because remember: [B]a theory, no matter how trustworthy, can never be completely verified by its definition. (This is because no matter how much verified observations are done, it is never a certainty that the next observations will give the same results)[/B]
Remember that evolution is a relatively new concept, but fortunately one of the fastest growing fields of research.
And remember: you can believe in evolution while still believing in God. Except when you insist to believe the exact words of the book of 'Genesis', in that case, let me give you some advice in a language you might understand:
herp derp herp derp da derp dee derp da teetley derpee derpee dumb.
The same reason gravity is still a theory. We know both evolution and gravity exist, the theory is on how they actually work.
My biology teacher screamed at one of my friends for saying, 'Christ!' in class and called him blasphemous and stuff and had like a two hour lecture on respect for Jesus and all of that shit.
I wanted to tell her to fuck off but I couldn't.
Also; It's a theory because first of all, we haven't witnessed it, second of all, we have something (mundane) to oppose it; Religion.
[QUOTE=RayDark;26407340]Also; It's a theory because first of all, we haven't witnessed it, second of all, we have something (mundane) to oppose it; Religion.[/QUOTE]
No on both accounts
Gravity is also a theory.
But I doubt any religious person would come along saying gravity is false and we're all flying around in weightlessness.
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