New to PC building, which of these 2 should I go for? - Hardware & Software

[h2]BUILD 1[/h2] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060&Tpk=Challenger%20U3%20Case[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231427[/url] (x2) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128502[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276[/url] [h2]BUILD 2[/h2] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.755238[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145348[/url] [h2]ACCESSORIES THAT GO FOR BOTH[/h2] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109191[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318[/url] Both builds come out to the exact same price of around $1230. What can I substitute for better price/better quality? I want to stay under $1500 for sure. [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] Main use will be gaming, want to be able to play stuff like BF3, Skyrim, ArmA 2, and Tribes: Ascend smoothly.

You're getting really overpriced ram, and picking 2 sets of 2x2 is like $20 more expensive than a single set of 2x4. The difference in ram speeds don't really mean much when it comes to gaming. The first build looks better, but at such a high budget you really should add an SSD and get a better video card. For SSD's anything from Crucial, Samsung, or Intel will get you the best performance/reliability. Recommended most here is the Crucial M4. Graphics should be updated as well, especially if you want to play on highest settings in the games you listed. This is what I put together for you, dunno if it would be too much and whatnot and I'm sure someone else could find a better deal on things. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59389727/cardfan212%201.PNG[/img] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59389727/cardfan212%202.PNG[/img] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59389727/cardfan212%203.PNG[/img] [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] $1470.45 after shipping, then subtract $60 from rebates

You tell him he's overpaying on something then you suggest even more overpriced items, nice. Just because he has a $1500 budget doesn't mean he wants to spend a full $1500... I'd assume

How is what I gave him more overpriced? If he originally has a 4GB set for 29.99 and I link an 8GB set for 39.99, then what the fuck did I get him that's overpriced. In fact, the only things I changed were the hard drive which is $30 cheaper, the motherboard which is $8 cheaper, the case which is slightly more expensive and 10 times better, and added an SSD and a much better graphics card which would increase his performance by a lot. Cunt.

[QUOTE=Delrainn;34776141]You tell him he's overpaying on something then you suggest even more overpriced items, nice. Just because he has a $1500 budget doesn't mean he wants to spend a full $1500... I'd assume[/QUOTE] The only thing overpriced in his build is the PSU, you can get a better XFX one for cheaper. Other than that it's a fine build. You have no idea what you're talking about.

The only reason I didn't even try to recommend a power supply over his is that isn't a strong suit of mine. I looked at one that I want to get when I build my computer but it was out of stock and I have no idea if it's as good [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194086[/url]

[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;34777278]The only reason I didn't even try to recommend a power supply over his is that isn't a strong suit of mine. I looked at one that I want to get when I build my computer but it was out of stock and I have no idea if it's as good [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194086[/url][/QUOTE] Yah Enermax are really good power supplies. It's a shame that it's out of stock. If someone is spending $130 on a PSU I would probably go for a [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371050]900W Antec HCG[/url]

Ok, so after rearranging my budget, I would like it to cost $1000 or under without mouse, keyboard, or monitor.

What about OS? [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=garrynohome;34777315]Yah Enermax are really good power supplies. It's a shame that it's out of stock. If someone is spending $130 on a PSU I would probably go for a [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371050]900W Antec HCG[/url][/QUOTE] After reading about the one Makol had exploding and taking out his whole pc I freak out when I look at the HCG series [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59389727/cardfan212%201.PNG[/img] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59389727/cardfan212%202.PNG[/img] Total w/ shipping is $980.55, $30 in rebates brings it down to $950.55 [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] Oh and there's also a 7% off discount on the graphics card which brings the total down by $19.25

[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;34777488]What about OS? [/QUOTE] Preferably Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium.

So you don't already have one?

[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;34777488] After reading about the one Makol had exploding and taking out his whole pc I freak out when I look at the HCG series [/QUOTE] That was indeed an unfortunate incident, and I hope Antec reimburses him for the damage to whatever parts were damaged, but they're good power supplies. There's no trend of exploding HCG PSUs.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;34777110]The only thing overpriced in his build is the PSU, you can get a better XFX one for cheaper. Other than that it's a fine build. You have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] I do know what I'm talking about. Just because you're a gold member doesn't make what you say any more correct than my suggestions/words, you don't have to be a passive aggressive douche

[QUOTE=Delrainn;34778722]I do know what I'm talking about. Just because you're a gold member doesn't make what you say any more correct than my suggestions/words, you don't have to be a passive aggressive douche[/QUOTE] I never claimed that me being gold member made my statements more valid, you're just making things up to try and cloud the fact that you were wrong. I wasn't being passive aggressive either. The fact of the matter is that Walrus chose cheaper parts that were either better or equally as good, which means your statement was incorrect.

-snip- sorry ill make a new thread

[QUOTE=mark6789;34797417]I dont want to make a thread thats basically the same question so can you guys help me with this build? Also i dont know if these are all the parts i need so yeah. [IMG]http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w378/mark6789x/Capture1.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] No hi-jacking others threads. Make a new thread.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mOVps.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OIVUs.png[/IMG] Ok, how does this look? My budget did go down, would like to have something similar in performance to this for under $800 if possible, otherwise I'll stick with this setup.

What are you doing? Why are you getting a PII X4 and not an i3-2100/2120? Also Get the HAF 912. I had to go with an Antec 300 for my friend Brad's build last month because it was out of stock and he might not care, but he missed out on a lot better case by not wanting to wait.

[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233[/url] Changed case to this. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131773[/url] Changed mobo to this, although I wouldn't mind a cheaper alternative (please). [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078[/url] Changed CPU to this. Is G. Skill RAM bad? I heard from a friend that it's low quality. If so, what is a good alternative?

No, GSkill is a good RAM brand, wtf is your friend smoking

What's the difference between an i5 2300, i5 2400, i5 2500, and i5 2500k?

[QUOTE=cardfan212;34810895]What's the difference between an i5 2300, i5 2400, i5 2500, and i5 2500k?[/QUOTE] Difference between 2300,2400,2500 is the clock speed. The 2500K means an unlocked multiplier so you can overclock. Also I would get this motherboard. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271[/url] [editline]22nd February 2012[/editline] Also I would get the i3-2120. The 200MHz bump is seriously worth the $3. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077[/url]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sdSqh.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hyuFD.png[/IMG] Here's what stuff looks like now. [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181[/url] I switched to this HDD because a) I don't think I'll need 1TB and b) it shaves $40 from the price.

use that saving to get a PSU worth using [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030[/url]

The GTX 550 Ti is shit, get something like this: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161384[/url] Or this: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125412[/url] And if you stretch a bit, and take the rebate, get this: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127592[/url] You could consider this PSU, as well (with rebate): [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013[/url]