My operating system is really dicked up. I was talking to my friend about it at lunch today. He said don't format that much it is really bad for your hard drive. I've formatted about 10 other times before. Is it really that bad?
Low-level formats shouldn't be done too often. They seriously FORMAT the drive, wiping EVERYTHING in it's path. Regular quick wipes hurt nothing and the data is only marked as "deleted", and simply overwritten with time.
No it's not bad at all.
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above poster is stupid
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;17087021]Low-level formats shouldn't be done too often. They seriously FORMAT the drive, wiping EVERYTHING in it's path. Regular quick wipes hurt nothing and the data is only marked as "deleted", and simply overwritten with time.[/QUOTE]
ugh
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;17087021]Low-level formats shouldn't be done too often. They seriously FORMAT the drive, wiping EVERYTHING in it's path. Regular quick wipes hurt nothing and the data is only marked as "deleted", and simply overwritten with time.[/QUOTE]
Everybody is rating him/her dumb, but isn't it true though. I've heard this before.
Goddammit I know it doesn't harm your hard drive, i'm asking a question about Quick and Full Format. Stop rating me bad :argh:
No..it doesn't harm your drive. Also Pixel Heart is stupid.
No, it's fine really. A full format simply replaces all of the bits to 0s.
[QUOTE=Imperials^^;17088222]No..it doesn't harm your drive. Also Pixel Heart is stupid.[/QUOTE]
Nice you rated me disagree when I was simply asking a question, I know it doesn't harm your drive, I was asking a question about the definition of Quick and Full Format. (Quick Fomat only marks data as deleted but is overwritten overtime?)
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[QUOTE=nos217;17088257]No, it's fine really. A full format simply replaces all of the bits to 0s.[/QUOTE]
Ok thank you that answers my question.
Ignore ratings, They mean nothing... I don't even pay attention to them.. I do rate people though.
[QUOTE=Tezza1234;17088365]Ignore ratings, They mean nothing... I don't even pay attention to them.. I do rate people though.[/QUOTE]
You just rated me dumb didn't you? :downs:
[QUOTE=Plastical;17088278]Nice you rated me disagree when I was simply asking a question, I know it doesn't harm your drive, I was asking a question about the definition of Quick and Full Format. (Quick Fomat only marks data as deleted but is overwritten overtime?)
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Ok thank you that answers my question.[/QUOTE]
No problem :).
[QUOTE=Plastical;17088412]You just rated me dumb didn't you? :downs:[/QUOTE]
No? :o
Unless you fuck something up like my friend did, formatted drive, installed windows and then the hard drive made itself into 2 drives, leaving one with windows and other part of it made itself unable to be usable ever again, he ended up buying a new one.
Uhh how?
[QUOTE=TheForeigner;17088559]Unless you fuck something up like my friend did, formatted drive, installed windows and then the hard drive made itself into 2 drives, leaving one with windows and other part of it made itself unable to be usable ever again, he ended up buying a new one.[/QUOTE]
:downs:, What an idiot.
GParted almost certainly would have recovered this.
It harms your drive in the sense that it needlessly reduces the lifetime of the heads/disk motor. Writing *size of hard drive* worth of data would do the same wear to the drive. The people rating you dumb are a bit clueless.
A quick format doesn't do this, though. It merely rewrites [i]some[/i] parts of the file system.
Why would you need to completely format anyway?
To help cover over sensitive data.
It's not unusual for people to format twice or even thrice, even If I question the effectivness of such.
Low-Level Formats make your HD space smaller everytime, but that's because defect areas are being detected and marked as broken. But I think only REAL low level formats do that, the usual "low level" format you get these days isn't that powerful like a real lowlevelformat, so you can't break anything.
[QUOTE=gparent;17088745]It harms your drive in the sense that it needlessly reduces the lifetime of the heads/disk motor. Writing *size of hard drive* worth of data would do the same wear to the drive. The people rating you dumb are a bit clueless.
A quick format doesn't do this, though. It merely rewrites [i]some[/i] parts of the file system.[/QUOTE]
Mechanical wear on a hard drive is irrelevant, the drive will be obsolete long before it fails due to overuse.
[QUOTE=M_u_d;17089678]Mechanical wear on a hard drive is irrelevant, the drive will be obsolete long before it fails due to overuse.[/QUOTE]
Huh, it depends what you do with the drive. For a storage drive, I agree with you (you'll most likely end up over storage capacity before it breaks, and it won't get much use overall), but if you're constantly writing downloaded data to a disk, lifetime might kill it before it gets obsolete, especially if you start low-level formatting the disk a few times every now and then.
[QUOTE=nos217;17088877]Why would you need to completely format anyway?[/QUOTE]
I don't want Mr. Joe Ebayer to have his tech perform file recovery on a hard drive I sold him only to find a bunch of CVs, pics of people I know, my firefox profile (which includes plaintext passwords) and an IRC log of the past 3 years of my internet habits.
[QUOTE=gparent;17088745]It harms your drive in the sense that it needlessly reduces the lifetime of the heads/disk motor. Writing *size of hard drive* worth of data would do the same wear to the drive. The people rating you dumb are a bit clueless.
A quick format doesn't do this, though. It merely rewrites [i]some[/i] parts of the file system.[/QUOTE]
Needlessly reduces the lifetime of the heads/disk motor?
I think it needlessly reduces the lifetime of the heads/disk motor 10 times more if you have a dirty and messed up OS that's constantly writing to the disk with useless data from old processes and services and system logs filled with errors
[QUOTE=gparent;17089752]
I don't want Mr. Joe Ebayer to have his tech perform file recovery on a hard drive I sold him only to find a bunch of CVs, pics of people I know, my firefox profile (which includes plaintext passwords) and an IRC log of the past 3 years of my internet habits.[/QUOTE]
Then don't sell your old hard drive on ebay.
It's not bad, and hell, some people make a habit of doing it bi-yearly.
My old machine had to be reformatted every few days (1ghz processor, 32GB HDD), but it still worked fine. (Crashing was due to OS, not the HDD).
[QUOTE=maurits150;17089946]Needlessly reduces the lifetime of the heads/disk motor?
I think it needlessly reduces the lifetime of the heads/disk motor 10 times more if you have a dirty and messed up OS that's constantly writing to the disk with useless data from old processes and services and system logs filled with errors[/QUOTE]
Then use Linux or do a quick format. Nothing in that quote requires a full blown low-level format.
[QUOTE=mattfinch;17089959]Then don't sell your old hard drive on ebay.[/QUOTE]
I can't tell if you're being serious.
Quick Formatting covers certain parts of your disk with 0's, so it looks empty, when infact most of the data on there is still recoverable. Full format changes everything on the drive to 0's, and takes much longer. Neither hurt your HD. Also, if your formatting to get rid of some secret shit on your computer, they say that you need to full format, write over your whole harddrive (fill it up) then full format again, and repeat 3 times, then the data will be so scrambled that you won't be able to recover any data. One full-format can not stop the FBI from retrieving data.
What about that shit that's like 21 passes or whatever?
I don't see why anyone would want to sell their old HDDs anyway, they'd be worth so little compared to the risk of people getting your data.
[QUOTE=Hivemind;17091919]I don't see why anyone would want to sell their old HDDs anyway, they'd be worth so little compared to the risk of people getting your data.[/QUOTE]
Who cares? Don't sell it to the FBI.
[QUOTE=Odellus;17092081]Who cares? Don't sell it to the FBI.[/QUOTE]
My wallet cares.
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