I am looking to get in linux and want somthing basic with a command prompt not fancy GUI
[url=http://www.archlinux.org/]Arch[/url]
[editline]23rd November 2010[/editline]
But if you happen to change your mind, you can have [B]both[/B] a terminal interface [B]and[/B] a fancy GUI in Arch!
Start with this.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1025988-So-you-want-to-mess-around-with-linux-eh-Look-here[/url]
Arch Linux is a good distro to learn how to use the OS. There are certain things that it does that aren't 100% standard but that's no biggie.
What's wrong with trying Ubuntu first?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26249661]What's wrong with trying Ubuntu first?[/QUOTE]
A distro such as Arch actually requires you to use the terminal, Ubuntu doesn't
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Well, you could easily learn how to use the terminal in ubuntu, but you won't have to rely on it as heavily as you would with say, arch
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26249661]What's wrong with trying Ubuntu first?[/QUOTE]
It's a good learning experience to start with arch.
Since it only takes half a brain to follow a guide it's no big trouble. Also, if you're a good learner you'll get a lot out of it.
I also find that Ubuntu teaches Linux the wrong way.
[QUOTE=joemomma53;26250474]A distro such as Arch actually requires you to use the terminal, Ubuntu doesn't
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Well, you could easily learn how to use the terminal in ubuntu, but you won't have to rely on it as heavily as you would with say, arch[/QUOTE]
That's the problem. Arch REQUIRES you to know the terminal. What about going to Ubuntu, learning to use the terminal there and then moving to Arch?
I installed Arch and Gnome, and my only experience with anything remotely resembling a terminal was with a DOS prompt. It's not really that hard, and I learnt something while installing, unlike if I installed Ubuntu.
Once you have Arch and a DE set up you can go ahead and use a terminal emulator just like you can in Ubuntu.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26264946]That's the problem. Arch REQUIRES you to know the terminal. What about going to Ubuntu, learning to use the terminal there and then moving to Arch?[/QUOTE]
because the beginner's manual is so detailed you shouldn't actually need to know how to use the terminal
Buttsex, I admire you for your Gentoo wisdom. It's taking me a lot longer to set up than Arch. I've re-installed 4 times now :v:
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26268685]because the beginner's manual is so detailed you shouldn't actually need to know how to use the terminal[/QUOTE]
This. The beginners guide tells you everything to do during an arch installation.
Just install a DE, or wm+panel, etc on arch if you want gui, but you'll still rely on the terminal for some things that you wouldn't have to use a terminal for on ubuntu, which would make you learn how to use it
ERm.....that was a little off topic, but yeah, I started with a knoppix live-CD then moved to fedora, then Ubuntu to see how easy it was, then Arch, and now Gentoo. Once you get the hang of how linux really works, its pretty easy to switch distros. Except for using the su command about a million times in ubuntu to learn it was removed.
[b]Edit:[/b] Broke mah automerge.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26268685]because the beginner's manual is so detailed you shouldn't actually need to know how to use the terminal[/QUOTE]
Like I said before there's a 90% chance that you'll encounter a problem that is [b]not[/b] described in the beginner's guide THUS rendering it difficult.
The beginner's guide is huge, but it doesn't mention EVERYTHING that could go wrong.
You can probably find a solution from google fairly quickly though
[QUOTE=EEvilMuffin;26270533]Buttsex, I admire you for your Gentoo wisdom. It's taking me a lot longer to set up than Arch. I've re-installed 4 times now :v:[/QUOTE]
It took me a 2 or 3 tries my first time. I can do it in one shot now. :v:
The hardest part for me was compiling the right SATA driver in the kernel. If I picked the wrong one, it'd boot up and panic, so I'd have to go back to the LiveCD and set up the chroot again.
yeah first time I had to start over once, and ended up chrooting in twice. once to fix fstab and once to fix portage (:suicide:)
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26273158]yeah first time I had to start over once, and ended up chrooting in twice. once to fix fstab and once to fix portage (:suicide:)[/QUOTE]
this.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26272421]It took me a 2 or 3 tries my first time. I can do it in one shot now. :v:
The hardest part for me was compiling the right SATA driver in the kernel. If I picked the wrong one, it'd boot up and panic, so I'd have to go back to the LiveCD and set up the chroot again.[/QUOTE]
I've gotten panics about 3/4 of the time now, but I have a working kernel, so I guess I'm getting there :v:
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26273158]yeah first time I had to start over once, and ended up chrooting in twice. once to fix fstab and once to fix portage (:suicide:)[/QUOTE]
Or like the time that my kernel was configured such that the network parts were stripped out, causing anything useful - sudo, etc. to not work. I couldn't mount boot either. My gentoo live disc saved the day, chrooted into that sucker, recompiled the kernel and moved it over.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26280906]use VirtuLIZASONS SI UD ONT DUFC RHSUA DRIVE[/QUOTE]
use virtualizations so you don't what drive?
[editline]25th November 2010[/editline]
I'm pretty good at reading drunk but what the fuck is RHSUA?
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26283208]use virtualizations so you don't what drive?
[editline]25th November 2010[/editline]
I'm pretty good at reading drunk but what the fuck is RHSUA?[/QUOTE]
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