Will this run TF2? - Hardware & Software

Just seen this today on Ebuyer [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173624[/url] ... A few questions, will it max out TF2. If not what needs changing. Also does it have a mobo, I couldn't spot one??? I was thinking maybe buying a 4850, would the CPU bottle neck it?

It has integrated graphics. :geno: Of course it has a motherboard. How would it not? And if you want a 4850, check to see if the PSU would support it.

It's just it wasn't listed in the specs!!! Thanks, ill check on the PSU, thanks...

[QUOTE=Ubercharged;17672601]It's just it wasn't listed in the specs!!! Thanks, ill check on the PSU, thanks...[/QUOTE] Straight from the page: [code]This superb performance Intel based mATX PC is ideal for use at home or in the office. Optimised for high performance computing requirements, this system utilises high performance components suitable for this size of chassis. The motherboard at the heart of this Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 Socket 775 system provides onboard LAN, 5.1 channel surround sound and integrated Vista Premium ready 2D/3D graphics. A 750GB SATA hard drive provides ample storage, whilst the 4GB of DDR2 800MHz RAM will be plenty to handle most software applications. Please note that this desktop PC does not come with an operating system. Ebuyer recommends using genuine Microsoft Software and is Windows Vista compatible. This desktop PC is perfect for anyone looking for a small, durable system for use in at home or as an office system. A durable keyboard and mouse are also provided with the package. Processor * Intel Pentium E5400 Dual Core Processor 2.7Ghz, * 2MB Cache Memory * 4GB DDR2 800Mhz * Memory Slot: 2 x DIMM Hard Drive * 750GB SATA II * 1 x 750GB Optical Drive * Samsung 22x Dual layer no lightscribe Software * Operating System: No Operating System Display * Monitor Not Included Graphics * Intel GMA3100 Input Devices * Keyboard and Mouse Networking * Network Interface: 10/100M LAN, Realtek® RTL8101E Dimensions * Depth 450mm * Width 180mm * Height 360mm Interfaces * 1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks) * 1 x PS/2 keyboard port * 1 x PS/2 mouse port * 1 x Parallel port * 1 x Serial port * 6 x USB 2.0 ports * 1 x RJ45 LAN port * 1 x VGA port Expansion Bays * 2 x 5.25 external ODD * 2 x 3.5 external FDD * 4 x 3.5 internal HDD Warranty * This system features a 1 year return-to-base parts and labour warranty (Manufacturer’s Warranty)[/code] Really the only thing that isn't there is the PSU.

How big of a PSU would I need for a 4850?

Most definitely will not max out any remotely recent games.

[QUOTE=ferrus;17673217]Most definitely will not max out any remotely recent games.[/QUOTE] Source doesn't require much. Just grab a decent graphics card and he should get close to maxing it.

[QUOTE=SomeFaggot;17673499]Source doesn't require much. Just grab a decent graphics card and he should get close to maxing it.[/QUOTE] I knew it wouldn't max anything new out with the current GPU, but I thought that the CPU would run most new games at a sensible resolution, with a GPU upgrade of course...

Build your own. You can completely customize it and you save money. And that computer right there is not for gaming. It's basically a home computer, even says in the description.

[QUOTE=ghostofme;17674618]Build your own. You can completely customize it and you save money. And that computer right there is not for gaming. It's basically a home computer, even says in the description.[/QUOTE] k, would this be better - [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-180-OK[/url] Can I build one much cheaper for that price?

[QUOTE=Ubercharged;17674976]k, would this be better - [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-180-OK[/url] Can I build one much cheaper for that price?[/QUOTE] One sec, lemme give it a shot. What's your budget?

urm £350 'ish

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-212-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1482[/url] CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 250 [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-248-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=[/url] RAM: 4GBs (2GB x 2) OCZ DDR2 800Mhz [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-156-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813[/url] GPU: 4870: [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-143-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=939[/url] PSU: CoolerMaster 650w: [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-186-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103[/url] Case: Antec 200: [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-125-AN&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=[/url] HDD: WD 160GB:[url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-118-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=167[/url] Total comes to: £424 Sorry, kinda went over your budget, but that will max out TF2 with good frame rates. I think that's everything...anyone wanna critique my build?

Overclockers can get a bit expensive, try e buyer.

So a 4850 wont max TF2? what...

[QUOTE=Ubercharged;17677813]So a 4850 wont max TF2? what...[/QUOTE] It will.

It will max out TF2. And can I can some feed back on my build? I'm curious as to how I did. :ohdear:

It was £75 over budget, and the pc on overclockers - [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-180-OK[/url] - is pretty much what you put, except it had a model better on the GPU, which for £ was worth it, to say that you get 500gb hard drive with the pre built, although the mobo is good. May be worth saving a little extra for your build, I don't know. ???

you failed at copying the link

[QUOTE=TheMadness;17681391]you failed at copying the link[/QUOTE] Yeh I did, ty =] -snip-

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;17678546]It will.[/QUOTE] Yeah mine does nicely.

[QUOTE=ghostofme;17675300]MOBO: Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-212-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1482[/url] CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 250 [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-248-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=[/url] RAM: 4GBs (2GB x 2) OCZ DDR2 800Mhz [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-156-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813[/url] GPU: 4870: [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-143-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=939[/url] PSU: CoolerMaster 650w: [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-186-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103[/url] Case: Antec 200: [url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-125-AN&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=[/url] HDD: WD 160GB:[url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-118-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=167[/url] Total comes to: £424 Sorry, kinda went over your budget, but that will max out TF2 with good frame rates. I think that's everything...anyone wanna critique my build?[/QUOTE] GPU is overkill PSU is overkill, even for a 4870 160GB isn't much.

[QUOTE=.ediT;17681921]Yeah mine does nicely.[/QUOTE] Do you have the one form e buyer that is in the OP?

> * Operating System: No Operating System might be a problem unless you like linux and pong

[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;17686644]> * Operating System: No Operating System might be a problem unless you like linux and pong[/QUOTE] Windows 7 Pro student thing in UK, 29.99£ Or Ubuntu + WINE.

[QUOTE=UNIX_nikomo;17686663]Windows 7 Pro student thing in UK, 29.99£[/QUOTE] I still can't find if it's an upgrade or regular. It's most likely upgrade. [editline]11:16AM[/editline] which is a problem.

[QUOTE=abcpea;17681932]GPU is overkill PSU is overkill, even for a 4870 160GB isn't much.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know the PSU was a bit much, but I was in a hurry and that was what I found. But it is a nice PSU...and I wouldn't really say the GPU is overkill, he can max TF2, and play other games at max. Reason for 160GB is that I already knew I was over his budget, so I couldn't go and make him a close to £500 when he only wants to spend £350ish budget. Thanks for the feedback.

[QUOTE=ghostofme;17690992]Yeah, I know the PSU was a bit much, but I was in a hurry and that was what I found. But it is a nice PSU...and I wouldn't really say the GPU is overkill, he can max TF2, and play other games at max. Reason for 160GB is that I already knew I was over his budget, so I couldn't go and make him a close to £500 when he only wants to spend £350ish budget. Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE] For his budget, yes it is. He doesn't need a 4870. 4850 is fine.

[QUOTE=TheMadness;17688804]I still can't find if it's an upgrade or regular. It's most likely upgrade. [editline]11:16AM[/editline] which is a problem.[/QUOTE] It's the upgrade. [img]http://i35.tinypic.com/fn5ymt.jpg[/img] Notice the upper left hand corner of the box.