Nedd Help Installing windows 7 Ultimate 64bit on a SSD - Hardware & Software

ok so its a new rig build and im getting a new SSD is there anything i need to do in order to install windows, or is it as simple as turning the machine on then putting the disc in?

Yes, it's just as easy to install Windows 7 on an SSD, but after the installation, Google search for SSD tweaks and move your paging file to a regular harddrive.

[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;24022717]Yes, it's just as easy to install Windows 7 on an SSD, but after the installation, Google search for SSD tweaks and move your paging file to a regular harddrive.[/QUOTE] why?

Having the paging file on your SSD is a waste of SSD durability.

[QUOTE=leach139;24024854]Having the paging file on your SSD is a waste of SSD durability.[/QUOTE] in ze englai?? lol

The paging file is the target of quite a lot of read / write operations, so having it on your SSD will degrade the life of it. HDD's can handle a lot more ops before exploding in a fireball, and there's no real performance loss.

[QUOTE=leach139;24026746]The paging file is the target of quite a lot of read / write operations, so having it on your SSD will degrade the life of it. HDD's can handle a lot more ops before exploding in a fireball, and there's no real performance loss.[/QUOTE] oh :/ i thought ssd where all the way these days!

ITT dumb ideas from people who don't actually know much about ssds. One of the biggest performance increases you'll see in windows is by adding a ssd, one of the biggest increases in said performance is page file access and read times, so here's a great idea, let's remove it and put it back on a slow mechanical drive! What? The wear indicator % will probably decrease a few fractions of a percentage faster with it on, but if you're that bothered about the durability of your drive, then maybe you should get out a calculator and work out how long said durability will last, I'm betting 10's of years even with the page file on it. [editline]12:09PM[/editline] [QUOTE=leach139;24026746]The paging file is the target of quite a lot of read / write operations, so having it on your SSD will degrade the life of it. HDD's can handle a lot more ops before exploding in a fireball, and there's no real performance loss.[/QUOTE] It's a read to write ratio of about 40:1. [QUOTE=Microsoft Engineer]Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs? Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well. In looking at telemetry data from thousands of traces and focusing on pagefile reads and writes, we find that * [B]Pagefile.sys reads outnumber pagefile.sys writes by about 40 to 1,[/B] * Pagefile.sys read sizes are typically quite small, with 67% less than or equal to 4 KB, and 88% less than 16 KB. * Pagefile.sys writes are relatively large, with 62% greater than or equal to 128 KB and 45% being exactly 1 MB in size. [B]In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.[/B] Source: [url]http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=liquid_phase;24032813]ITT dumb ideas from people who don't actually know much about ssds. One of the biggest performance increases you'll see in windows is by adding a ssd, one of the biggest increases in said performance is page file access and read times, so here's a great idea, let's remove it and put it back on a slow mechanical drive! What? The wear indicator % will probably decrease a few fractions of a percentage faster with it on, but if you're that bothered about the durability of your drive, then maybe you should get out a calculator and work out how long said durability will last, I'm betting 10's of years even with the page file on it. [editline]12:09PM[/editline] It's a read to write ratio of about 40:1.[/QUOTE] Hmmm well at the end of the day, its going to start up applications and processes quicker including windows 7, i have a 1tb and 500gb hardrive that are also connected so im sure it will be better than nothing

Windows 7 quite often disables superfetch when you install an ssd, so your page file is especially important for the general performance of the system. Moving it to a mechanical drive is the dumbest thing you can do.

[QUOTE=liquid_phase;24033367]Windows 7 quite often disables superfetch when you install an ssd, so your page file is especially important for the general performance of the system. Moving it to a mechanical drive is the dumbest thing you can do.[/QUOTE] so basicly just leave it as it is??

Yeah, pretty much. I like to think that the engineers at microsoft know a great deal more than the people on this forum. And enjoy your ssd :buddy:

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A handy step you can take beyond moving your pagefile to a mechanical hard disk (which by the way, doesn't appear to have any noticeable effect), is to symlink your user and system temp folders to a mechanical disk. Otherwise applications such as WinRAR will end up writing loads to your SSD.