New to PC gaming. - Hardware & Software

Hello, I've been reading about this game for awhile now and think it's a good reason to get in PC gaming. As of right now all I have is a laptop, but gotta start somewhere right? I figure if this game "Wows" me like I expect it too I'll take the leap and get a better PC or wait for one of the 1,000 Steam Machines (I'm sure there's a thread for that.). That being said, since I am new and no really nothing about PC's could someone please let me know if my laptop would run Rust? It's an Acer Aspire 5750G, the processor is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2430M CPU @ 2.40GHz, my RAM is 6gb and it has a Geoforce GT 520M. Thanks!

I think that laptop will run the game just fine. If you get any lag just tune the graphics settings, mainly the anti-aliasing. Anti-aliasing really drains performance.

Awesome. Thank you! The game just looks like a lot goes on and can get intense. I just want to be able to enjoy it. If this game goes well I'll more than likely snag DayZ also. but only after getting something more up-to-date.

My laptop runs most games fine and it doesn't even have a dedicated graphics card!

A quick Google shows that the 5750G comes with an i7 and a GT 540m GPU. It also says that it comes with a 1366x768 display, which is good news for you! Even if you do only have a GT 520m, you'll be able to easily run the game at low, maybe even medium settings.

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;43529680]A quick Google shows that the 5750G comes with an i7 and a GT 540m GPU. It also says that it comes with a 1366x768 display, which is good news for you! Even if you do only have a GT 520m, you'll be able to easily run the game at low, maybe even medium settings.[/QUOTE] Seems there's different variants here and there so I'd take a 520m at face value. Your computer's not terribly great but I'd say you have at least a decent shot at low, and maybe (that's a big maybe) medium settings. I've not played Rust personally but it doesn't look terribly demanding. Keep in mind that the 520 is the rock bottom card in Nvidia's 500 lineup, so don't be expecting anything much. My personal cheapy laptop I've had for about two years-ish has a 540m. I don't really use it for gaming at all since I prefer my desktop but it's played LFD2, Amnesia, a bit of Stalker and DayZ and a lot of Orcs Must Die at fairly decent framerates. Welcome to the master-race, I suppose. I will caution you however with the advent of the so called "steam machines". A regular desktop will do you cheaper and provide you with more functionality than you'd do with a "steam box". You wouldn't be limited to the crippling SteamOS. Meaning that with a regular desktop you can do word processing, internet browsing, media playing, game playing (both with M/K and console controllers if that's your thing) and literally whatever else you want. With a "steam box" you're basically given the same hardware except you have the SteamOS. Yes you could probably dualboot with Windows or Linux but why bother? I'd encourage you to build your own computer. By doing such you will usually save a bit of money, have warranties on individual hardware pieces, you learn basic computer skills that shockingly few people know, and you sound cool to all your friends. Its like playing with legos except that they only really fit one way properly, and theres literally hundreds of thousands of guides all over the internet that walk you through every possible step. If something like the "steam box"s size appeals to you, then you can easily head down the SFF(small form factor) approach of mini-itx or m-atx builds, or if you want to head in the other direction, look for giants like the corsair 900D. If you have questions feel free to shoot me a pm or something PC gaming is literally an entire world unto itself and I encourage you to keep an open mind, and most importantly, have fun

[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;43529876]Seems there's different variants here and there so I'd take a 520m at face value. Your computer's not terribly great but I'd say you have at least a decent shot at low, and maybe (that's a big maybe) medium settings. I've not played Rust personally but it doesn't look terribly demanding. Keep in mind that the 520 is the rock bottom card in Nvidia's 500 lineup, so don't be expecting anything much. My personal cheapy laptop I've had for about two years-ish has a 540m. I don't really use it for gaming at all since I prefer my desktop but it's played LFD2, Amnesia, a bit of Stalker and DayZ and a lot of Orcs Must Die at fairly decent framerates. Welcome to the master-race, I suppose. I will caution you however with the advent of the so called "steam machines". A regular desktop will do you cheaper and provide you with more functionality than you'd do with a "steam box". You wouldn't be limited to the crippling SteamOS. Meaning that with a regular desktop you can do word processing, internet browsing, media playing, game playing (both with M/K and console controllers if that's your thing) and literally whatever else you want. With a "steam box" you're basically given the same hardware except you have the SteamOS. Yes you could probably dualboot with Windows or Linux but why bother? I'd encourage you to build your own computer. By doing such you will usually save a bit of money, have warranties on individual hardware pieces, you learn basic computer skills that shockingly few people know, and you sound cool to all your friends. Its like playing with legos except that they only really fit one way properly, and theres literally hundreds of thousands of guides all over the internet that walk you through every possible step. If something like the "steam box"s size appeals to you, then you can easily head down the SFF(small form factor) approach of mini-itx or m-atx builds, or if you want to head in the other direction, look for giants like the corsair 900D. If you have questions feel free to shoot me a pm or something PC gaming is literally an entire world unto itself and I encourage you to keep an open mind, and most importantly, have fun[/QUOTE] Thanks. I have been considering that. I do think a desktop is a better choice. And with all the talks of some upgrading every year, seems like a waste of cash. Any suggestions for one in the $500, maybe an ASUS? Or should I price it out and have one built?

[QUOTE=str1ct9;43679492]Thanks. I have been considering that. I do think a desktop is a better choice. And with all the talks of some upgrading every year, seems like a waste of cash. Any suggestions for one in the $500, maybe an ASUS? Or should I price it out and have one built?[/QUOTE] You don't have to upgrade every year. Building your own pc will save you money in the long run. [video=youtube;W4Js2A1qdB8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Js2A1qdB8[/video] And it's not too hard to do.

Awesome. Looks like I'm gonna look into building one. I just love gaming, PC or gaming. I'm just excited to play a game like Rust or DayZ. A game where I can create stories of my own and not follow anything in particular. These two games are what I've been looking for in a game and am super stoked to start playing.

The most important thing about building your own PC is to never get really low end parts but never really high end ones either. You want to try and hit the best bang for your buck in your price/performance bracket. People who upgrade every year are likely gettings parts that are too low end for what they want to do, or just can't stand not having cutting edge tech all the time. People who spend over $1k on a computer are trying to get everything really high end when its almost never nessicary and will become outdated just as quick as something that is mid-high end. For example, 3 years ago I bought a GTX 560ti video card for around $250 - its a mid-range card but I've been able to max or get close to maxing just about every game out at 1080P resolution. Sure I don't get 60+ FPS all the time for the newer games but its pretty smooth for the most part. It's [I]just[/I] starting to show its age - I could probably keep it for another two years and still have it run pretty much everything, but I'm willing to bet I'll need to start to run things on lower settings for games two years from now. I'm planning on upgrading to a GTX 760 which is much newer, and stronger than the 560 I currently own, but still in that "medium-high end performance bracket". I could get one for around $235-$240, then sell my 560Ti for $100 or so. Total cost to upgrade my video card to something that will literally give me 50% better performance (and I already get pretty good performance for most games now) and ensure I can max out every game coming out soon, and run games in the future pretty good? Around $135-$140. You might need to spend more or less depending on your performance concerns. I.E. if I had two monitors or a very large monitor with a high resolution, or a 120Hz monitor where I needed to have my games play at 120FPS to take full advantage of that, I might start buying into the high end video cards for $330+, but I don't really need that to max out my games and have them be smooth. $135 isn't that bad for 3 years worth of good performance and visuals. Your processor/motherboard tends to last longer as long as you didn't get a really crappy one, but even then you might look to spend $250-$300 on a high end processor+motherboard every 5-7 years, which is about how long each console generation lasts anyways (and you can sell your old processor/mobo to folks who just want to make a really cheap PC to make that cheaper). In the end, when you factor in the cost of selling old hardware when you want to upgrade and making sure to buy parts that have the best "bang for the buck" instead of always going for super high end, you'll be spending about as much on your PC as you might spend on a console purchase in a 5-7 year time period. Except your games will look much better, run much better, you can play a MUCH larger variety of games like Rust/DayZ/Indie Games/Strategy Games/etc, and you don't even need to play with a keyboard+mouse or on a monitor. A lot of PC games play great with a controller, and Steam even supports a TV-mode where if you push your 360/PS button on the middle of a wired controller it'll launch the big-picture mode if you have steam open. Best of all, you even save money in the long run. Steam sales make buying games on a budget really really easy and cheap. You don't have to pay for stuff like Xbox Live or PS+ for multiplayer. A lot of games simply launch cheaper anyways on PC. You have access to free to play games, which have microtransactions but are otherwise free. Humble Bundles are a great way to get cheap PC indie games that you've always wanted to try for super cheap. Etc

So could someone give me a an idea for a basic build to play Rust, DayZ and The Forest? All the parts are confusing as hell to me and I'm trying to learn as best and fast as I can. Should I just get a DIY kit from NewEgg? Since this will be my first gaming PC, I don't want to break the bank but still be able to have room to upgrade. A buddy sent me this item list: Intel Pentium G3220 Haswell 3.0GHz LGA 1150 54W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646G3220 MSI H81M-P33 LGA 1150 Intel H81 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard TOSHIBA DT01ACA050 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL LOGISYS Computer CS301BK Black Solid 6.0mm SECC Metal ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 480W Power Supply Will this run said games? Also, if I didn't mention earlier, I plan on using my TV as the monitor. Thanks again!

What's your budget? [editline]29th January 2014[/editline] And [I]sometimes[/I] those DIY kits can be great, but generally they have one or two parts that are far more expensive than the best price/performance, making them a bad choice.

[QUOTE=str1ct9;43714215]So could someone give me a an idea for a basic build to play Rust, DayZ and The Forest? All the parts are confusing as hell to me and I'm trying to learn as best and fast as I can. Should I just get a DIY kit from NewEgg? Since this will be my first gaming PC, I don't want to break the bank but still be able to have room to upgrade. A buddy sent me this item list: Intel Pentium G3220 Haswell 3.0GHz LGA 1150 54W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646G3220 MSI H81M-P33 LGA 1150 Intel H81 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard TOSHIBA DT01ACA050 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL LOGISYS Computer CS301BK Black Solid 6.0mm SECC Metal ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 480W Power Supply Will this run said games? Also, if I didn't mention earlier, I plan on using my TV as the monitor. Thanks again![/QUOTE] That's pretty terrible, sorry to say. Your laptop is actually better. Post a budget in a separate thread in the PC building forum, and I am sure people will help find you a good build for your money. On a small budget, I would highly advice going for an AMD CPU build, until you get into an i5 build budget range, AMD wins hands down.

give us a budget and we can give you a parts list. [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] we have the technology

Sorry for the delay gentlemen. School and work. $500 is my budget and by budget I mean what the wife will let me spend lol. I've been using a site called game-debate to better educate myself and also compare parts. This is what I've come up with so far: Silverstone Tek Aluminum Mini-ITX/Mini-DTX Case with 600 Watt 80+ Bronze Certified Power Supply Cases SG08B (Black) -Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE120BW -Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600Mhz PC3 12800 Desktop Memory CMV8GX3M2A1600C11 -ASUS P8Z77-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -AMD FX -4130 3.8Ghz Processor FD4130FRGUBOX, Black Edition. I can't thank you guys enough. Also I will post something on the PC thread. Thank you for that advice.

[QUOTE=str1ct9;43763719]Sorry for the delay gentlemen. School and work. $500 is my budget and by budget I mean what the wife will let me spend lol. I've been using a site called game-debate to better educate myself and also compare parts. This is what I've come up with so far: Silverstone Tek Aluminum Mini-ITX/Mini-DTX Case with 600 Watt 80+ Bronze Certified Power Supply Cases SG08B (Black) -Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE120BW -Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600Mhz PC3 12800 Desktop Memory CMV8GX3M2A1600C11 -ASUS P8Z77-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -AMD FX -4130 3.8Ghz Processor FD4130FRGUBOX, Black Edition. I can't thank you guys enough. Also I will post something on the PC thread. Thank you for that advice.[/QUOTE] Case is a Mini-ITX and the motherboard is a standard sized ATX board and it's also an INTEL chipset not AMD, also you're missing a video card the FX-4130 doesn't have an integrated GPU On budget without an OS, open to input Few videos on youtube show people playing Battlefield 4 on ultra with this setup so it [I]should[/I] play Rust with zero issues.. PCPartPicker part list: [URL]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2M8y0[/URL] Price breakdown by merchant: [URL]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2M8y0/by_merchant/[/URL] Benchmarks: [URL]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2M8y0/benchmarks/[/URL] CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Asus H81M-K Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($52.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($95.38 @ Newegg) Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg) Total: $506.31 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-02 17:52 EST-0500) Also if you want to attempt a rebate you can up your GPU to an [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127762"]MSI R7 260X[/URL] for $109.99

That build posted by Arid looks pretty much perfect for your budget.

I agree completely. This thread, forum and community have been such a huge help. Gonna have to order it piece by piece. But I'll have it. Can't wait to try out PC gaming.

Awesome! Remember, theres more to PC gaming than just Rust, and Rust is in Alpha at the moment, so if you don't find it to your liking yet there are thousands of other games out there. And just a little tip if you're ordering it bit by bit; get the graphics card last, because firstly you will be able to get the computer up and running using the onboard GPU of the i3 (even though it won't play any games, you can get it all set up so when you put your graphics card in and go. Secondly, graphics card prices drop all the time, and especially as Nvidia are due to release the 750Ti very soon, you should hopefully see a bit of competition at that price range pushing the 260x lower still.

I know. It's just games like Rust and DayZ are the kind I feel like I've waited for long to play. Another game I'm looking forward too is "The Forest." I know the chances of consoles getting games like these are slim. I just want to expand my gaming. I know these are games I put many hours on and leave my consoles as decorations. [editline]2nd February 2014[/editline] Thanks for the advice on the graphic cards. I kind of figured that's what I needed to do. But I feel better knowing it for sure now.

Posted from my phone so I can't look up much. I think if you could convince your wife to let you spend a couple hundred more or maybe save up for a bit. Those parts are a little on the low end and you could gain a lot of performance for not too much. I can't read this thread very well because I M on a phone so don't bother answering if you already have. What resolution do you plan to run at?

Yep, Arid's build is pretty priceworthy, it's just a shame that Intel's Quad-core processors are so expensive.

Well, got my taxes. Think I just might buy all the parts listed at once.