I fucking hate this. Every time I see "Mass Effect" somewhere, I get this urge to play through the entire trilogy. Again. For the n-teeth time.
[quote]Ultimately, players have to deal with the Reaper threat. And unsurprisingly, the Crucible, which looks likes a giant laser weapon, ends up being a giant laser weapon that can destroy the Reapers. Critics called it a deus ex machina, given its sudden appearance in Mass Effect 3. Still, it's hard to imagine how else the conflict against the Reapers could have been resolved, given the overwhelming force they represented. BioWare uses the Crucible's construction as an obvious player goal, much like the "suicide mission" from Mass Effect 2. From the very beginning of the game, players are reminded that every action will add to the Galactic Readiness level--essentially, how successful building the Crucible will be.[/quote]
You might have been able to get away with a shit excuse like that if ME3 was the only game in the series but not when it's apart of a trilogy which was all about stopping the Reapers.
Can we just not complain about the ending for one thread?
[QUOTE=Stopper;39069327]I fucking hate this. Every time I see "Mass Effect" somewhere, I get this urge to play through the entire trilogy. Again. For the n-teeth time.[/QUOTE]
I believe it is called the Deus Ex condition.
[QUOTE=Rapist;39069435]Can we just not complain about the ending for one thread?[/QUOTE]
we could if there was anything remotely positive about the ending
or the entire game
or current day bioware
or david gaider's toupee
[QUOTE=Rapist;39069435]Can we just not complain about the ending for one thread?[/QUOTE]
It's the most obvious gripe with the game, really. Don't get me wrong, I just laugh when people say "Wow all they did was make it space gears of war you can ROLL", but there is a legitimate complaint to be made with how the endings work. I like them myself now that the extended cut DLC is out, but they do leave something to be desired by a lot of die hard people.
[QUOTE=Rapist;39069435]Can we just not complain about the ending for one thread?[/QUOTE]
Would you like to talk about the 5000 other things in ME3 that didn't make any sense if you want. Like space ninja's, the lack of exploration, sensable missions, characters that are/aren't in the game because ????
The franchise is dead, but like disney and star wars, we gotta beat that dead horse.
[QUOTE=Stopper;39069327]I fucking hate this. Every time I see "Mass Effect" somewhere, I get this urge to play through the entire trilogy. Again. For the n-teeth time.[/QUOTE]
And curse Bioware and/or EA to infinity after the ending?
Agreed, though, despite the shortcomings, it's a solid space opera game trilogy that EA took in it's casual-catering grip and dumbed down.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;39070012]And curse Bioware and/or EA to infinity after the ending?
Agreed, though, despite the shortcomings, it's a solid space opera game trilogy that EA took in it's casual-catering grip and dumbed down.[/QUOTE]
Not really. I enjoyed all the games equally so. I look at the trilogy with in a meta-sense. (it helps me sleep better)
The first game is an establishment of the story, character and setting, that's why you have a lot of exploration and fleshed out RPG elements.
In the second game, you have already established characters and setting, and that's why it focuses on the action as opposed to the RPG elements and it's why you have to get very personal with each character to guarantee his trust in you.
The third game is the culmination. Everything you've done so far leads up to this point - the fight with the series' antagonist. There are no characters to define and no growths to be made. The only character who gets an indepth analysis is Shepard - to show the strain he's put under, defending an entire Galaxy.
In my opinion, in a global scale, this is one of the best trilogies [I]ever[/I] produced in any genre. Sure, there are [I]some[/I] shortcomings, but it would be impossible to create such a vast lore universe without them.
Although I didn't like the ending, I try and to not let 5 or so minutes of a bad ending try replace my memory of having many hours of enjoyment in ME3.
ME3 was an okay game up until the ending. Okay mind you, not great, but not bad. It had some significant flaws, but I enjoyed it regardless.
It was the ending that threw it over the edge.
What threw me off most about ME3 (apart from the ending) was finding out how little everything you did in the previous games actually mattered.
Killed the rachni on Noveria? Doesn't matter lol, Reapers cloned that shit up. Preserved the Collector Base? A line of dialogue's your lot matey. Anderson for Council? He sits on Earth the entire game and Udina still pulls the coup.
I didn't expect my experience to differ vastly with every playthrough of the trilogy, not after playing ME2, but I was expecting more than just a few lines of dialogue waving everything away.
I think it would be hilarious if Mass Effect 4 involved a time machine that retcon's 3.
[QUOTE=Rapist;39069435]Can we just not complain about the ending for one thread?[/QUOTE]
It's a relevant point to talk about. It being talked about to hell and back doesn't make it less valid of a point.
[QUOTE=Rapist;39069435]Can we just not complain about the ending for one thread?[/QUOTE]
It's such a huge thing when it comes to the Mass Effect series that it's pretty much inevitable that it'll bought up. Quite frankly, it should - it's such a massive mess that it's not something that can be simply brushed under the rug and forgotten.
Of course, I'm one of those people who didn't really enjoy ME3 in general, so the ending just comes off as another huge issue with the game out of many to me.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;39071036]It's a relevant point to talk about. It being talked about to hell and back doesn't make it less valid of a point.[/QUOTE]
It's always relevant, but after 9 months of discussion...what's left to say about it? Any thread about ME3 inevitably results in a circlejerk (for lack of a more flattering term) about how the franchise is ruined and the ending is pathetic. I sympathize with everyone who was disappointed because I sure as hell didn't like the ending but...when do we just move on from it? And for that matter, when can we get back to having the game mentioned without the rage welling up again? It's almost like nobody remembers the good aspects of Mass Effect 3 and the rest of the series.
I don't understand why game developers/movie makers/writers etc make a game or series with the intention of a specific number of entries, make them, and then go "WAIT! Let's make more"
I mean, money obviously, but it's just so... stupid. Star Wars, Halo, now Mass Effect. I may be a bit biased as I didn't enjoy the games that much (or any of Bioware's games, frankly), but it's still a bit silly.
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39069499]we could if there was anything remotely positive about the ending
or the entire game
or current day bioware
or david gaider's toupee[/QUOTE]
The coop is p fun. I played some of it today.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;39069563]Would you like to talk about the 5000 other things in ME3 that didn't make any sense if you want. Like space ninja's, the lack of exploration, sensable missions, characters that are/aren't in the game because ????
The franchise is dead, but like disney and star wars, we gotta beat that dead horse.[/QUOTE]
There are tons of things wrong with the ME series, but none of them are the ones you listed. Shepard wasn't a space explorer, he was a soldier. Asking for sensible missions and a criticizing space ninjas in a game about an extra-galactic armada of organic-based machines invading every 10,000 years is just... silly. The entire premise of the game is ridiculous when it comes to realism, why bother complaining about little unrealistic things?
Nah not gonna lie, I think ME3 takes too much flak for what it is but the space ninja thing came out of nowhere and did absolutely nothing for the plot but seem completely ridiculous.
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39069499]we could if there was anything remotely positive about the ending
or the entire game
or current day bioware
or david gaider's toupee[/QUOTE]
I thought the game was pretty fucking good, the ending was pretty lame i'll give it that, but the game itself was fun as hell and felt like a good ending to the ME series. Except for the ending.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39073267]I thought the game was pretty fucking good, the ending was pretty lame i'll give it that, but the game itself was fun as hell and felt like a good ending to the ME series. Except for the ending.[/QUOTE]
All of the sloppy environment design (oh hey look at these obviously 2D sprites oh and the council room in the citadel is now a 2D sprite), painfully bad animations, and empty sound design only help to compliment the floaty and uninspired combat. The only good part of ME3 was the scene where you and Garrus shoot bottles. I wish they'd shot ME3 boxes instead.
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39073342]All of the sloppy environment design (oh hey look at these obviously 2D sprites oh and the council room in the citadel is now a 2D sprite), painfully bad animations, and empty sound design only help to compliment the floaty and uninspired combat. The only good part of ME3 was the scene where you and Garrus shoot bottles. I wish they'd shot ME3 boxes instead.[/QUOTE]
Wait a sec, for all its faults, Mass Effect 3 had some of the best level design, combat, and sound design in the entire series. Hell, it even had some of the best animation work (which was admittedly offset by some really lazy shit). Did we play the same game?
I mean yeah, Virmire and the Suicide Mission are probably the peak as far as level/mission design goes in the series, but ME3 was by no means a pushover in those departments.
Its hard to argue that ME3 didn't have the best combat of the series.
At least the combat wasn't as bad as ME1
[QUOTE=Coffee;39073550]At least the combat wasn't as bad as ME1[/QUOTE]
While mechanically it wasn't great, I will always love the carnage ability for shotguns.
[QUOTE=Coffee;39073550]At least the combat wasn't as bad as ME1[/QUOTE]
Now it's generic and boring as fuck.
I just started playing it for the first time after going through the earlier games the past two weeks. Right now it feels like a good game, but a horrible Mass Effect. Shepard even does most of the talking himself, which is my main gripe with it at the moment. I don't get to participate in conversations, I just watch someone else do it for me. Completely throws me out of the experience.
It wasn't nearly as complex. I miss being able to make my rounds actually punch people into the air.
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