A motherboard bundle (bulldozer I know, but it seemed the best thing to get price wise)
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Bulldozer-FX-6100-Core-3-30GHz/dp/B0062KDPDG/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1334587670&sr=1-7[/url]
And this graphics card
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-GeForce-560TI-DirectCUII-Graphics/dp/B004K8R8DA/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1334592079&sr=1-1[/url]
If you disagree (you probably do) can you please post alternatives, or cheaper alternatives
sorry for making another thread but I really don't want to mess this up :v:
gaming?
then I recommend getting an [url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-Quad-Core-Processor-Warranty/dp/B004FA8NXM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334607984&sr=8-1]i3-2120[/url], an [url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/H61M-VS-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-Onboard-ASRock/dp/B004S9JXPW/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1334608054&sr=1-1]H61 mobo[/url], and perhaps [url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002X578GE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE]this ram[/url], this will save you around 30 pounds for use somewhere else. good gpu, though
what exactly is your budget for these parts?
What's your current PSU? Not the wattage, I want the model.
I'm unaware of the model as I just bought it from PC world because I needed one quickly, Why?
[editline]17th April 2012[/editline]
Also yes gaming, and I've changed my mind to the i5/i3 because the bulldozer is crap, but it was cheap
I plan on getting the same GPU and possibly the ram you linked snausages
Uh because your PSU could be complete garbage and not at all sufficient to run a GTX 560 Ti. If you bought it as a cheap prebuilt then that's likely the case. Don't even waste your time buying the parts if you can't identify your PSU, it's really important.
It's not a prebuilt I built the PC myself a while ago, hence I can't remember the name
I'll look into it and if it can't power the 560 I'll get another, I pretty much know what I will get now
Thanks!
[editline]18th April 2012[/editline]
I managed to get the side panel off (finally) which is a pain in the arse, to find out I have a:
Jeantech 405 watt PSU
Probably not enough...
I don't think I've ever even heard of Jeantech, and while a good quality 400W could run a 560 Ti system, I think it would be best if you didn't use your current PSU.
Jeantech are a common brand, they make cases and PSU's I think
Allright, I'll go with my current PSU and if it doesn't work I'll upgrade, just trying to save money, and the jeantech one seems quite reliable
I'd personally avoid using it altogether, for the risk that it damages your other components, but that's up to you.
jeantech is a typical noname cheapo PoSU
don't use it unless you want to risk fireworks and fried components
[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;35635479]Jeantech are a common brand, they make cases and PSU's I think
Allright, I'll go with my current PSU and if it doesn't work I'll upgrade, just trying to save money, and the jeantech one seems quite reliable[/QUOTE]
Called it, garbage PSU. No way that thing will run a 560 Ti. They are not a common brand, Antec is a common brand, I've never heard of Jeantech, Newegg doesn't stock their parts, I could go on.
When I've looked in my local PC World store, Jeantech were the only PSU's they sold.
Personally, I'd stop going to that store. Unless I had good reason to believe they were manufactured by a reputable OEM I'd take quite some measure to avoid using them.
I wouldn't use the Jeantech PSU. Dual +12v rails at 17a each with 300W max on the 12v? Good luck running a 560 on that. I imagine it'll go out like a light.
That sounds like a horrible PC part store. Even god damn Bestbuy carries brands like Antec and Corsair.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35651050]That sounds like a horrible PC part store. Even god damn Bestbuy carries brands like Antec and Corsair.[/QUOTE]
It is for parts. Their main business is selling prebuilts, laptops, accessories etc.
Can't really be called a part store tbh. Very limited stock which is overpriced.
[img]http://tesco.scene7.com/is/image//tesco/207-3450_PI_TPS601554?$Detail$[/img][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HeeeO.jpg[/IMG]
I'm not kidding about it being overpriced.
(£14.99 is about $24)
Allright allright I think I get it, don't use the jeantech :v: jheeze
Allright, I just need to find a cheap capable PSU now
The Corsair CX430 V2 is pretty swell for the price.
[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;35659015]Allright allright I think I get it, don't use the jeantech :v: jheeze
Allright, I just need to find a cheap capable PSU now[/QUOTE]
Don't use PC World for parts either.
[QUOTE=1solidsnake2;35661395]Don't use PC World for parts either.[/QUOTE]
I'm not that stupid
I bought everything offline, I just had to rush to PC world in order to get this PSU as it was the last thing and my current one did not fit as it was very old
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35659751]The Corsair CX430 V2 is pretty swell for the price.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't it only have one PCI-E connector? I believe it was you who showed me that XFX 450W that I recommended in another thread wouldn't be the most optimal choice due to it also only having one.
For the price I would definitely buy a 6870 over a GTX 560 Ti. I also mentioned on another thread that if you're patient, you might want to wait a little longer for newer Kepler cards to be released. Also, I'd never buy bulldozer anything.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35690449]Doesn't it only have one PCI-E connector? I believe it was you who showed me that XFX 450W that I recommended in another thread wouldn't be the most optimal choice due to it also only having one.[/QUOTE]
I'm fooling around - I think you're right. The 500CX, then.
[QUOTE=Koolg223;35690507]For the price I would definitely buy a 6870 over a GTX 560 Ti. I also mentioned on another thread that if you're patient, you might want to wait a little longer for newer Kepler cards to be released. Also, I'd never buy bulldozer anything.[/QUOTE]
The GTX 560 Ti is superior performance wise and has a good software team doing driver support. You won't end up waiting three months for a bug fix because the game is "obscure" like X-Ray Engine based games.
[QUOTE]The GTX 560 Ti is superior performance wise and has a good software team doing driver support. You won't end up waiting three months for a bug fix because the game is "obscure" like X-Ray Engine based games.[/QUOTE]
And it costs more... For less than the price of a regular 1GB 560Ti, you could get a 2GB 6870 and better FPS in modern games like Battlefield 3 and even older ones like Crysis. You'll also see better multi GPU performance if you decide to buy a second card.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35690776]The GTX 560 Ti is superior performance wise and has a good software team doing driver support. You won't end up waiting three months for a bug fix because the game is "obscure" like X-Ray Engine based games.[/QUOTE]
Superior performance wise? Not necessarily if you XF. Like ATL mentioned, 1 gb of vram won't always cut it with newer resource heavy games, and you can easily get a 6870 w/ 2gb of vram for cheap. As for driver support, I've never had any issues, but maybe if you play obscure games.
[QUOTE=ATLracing;35690815]And it costs more... For less than the price of a regular 1GB 560Ti, you could get a 2GB 6870 and better FPS in modern games like Battlefield 3 and even older ones like Crysis. You'll also see better multi GPU performance if you decide to buy a second card.[/QUOTE]
Wahaha. 2GB of VRAM on a 6870? At any resolution that needs that amount of VRAM the card itself won't be powerful enough to pull good framerates. Also you won't see any performance gains beyond the small ones you'll get with the 2GB in the first place, using CFX/SLI doesn't magically make all the VRAM available at once. The GPUs will take turns to render one part of scene and they employ their own VRAM for doing so.
[editline]23rd April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Koolg223;35690857]Superior performance wise? Not necessarily if you XF. Like ATL mentioned, 1 gb of vram won't always cut it with newer resource heavy games, and you can easily get a 6870 w/ 2gb of vram for cheap. As for driver support, I've never had any issues, but maybe if you play obscure games.[/QUOTE]
It was sarcasm. X-Ray engine is used in every S.T.A.L.K.E.R game. Not obscure at all.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35690890]Wahaha. 2GB of VRAM on a 6870? At any resolution that needs that amount of VRAM the card itself won't be powerful enough to pull good framerates. Also you won't see any performance gains beyond the small ones you'll get with the 2GB in the first place, using CFX/SLI doesn't magically make all the VRAM available at once. The GPUs will take turns to render one part of scene and they employ their own VRAM for doing so.[/QUOTE]
Incorrect sir, at 1080p, newer games can exceed 1 gb of vram usage easily. I see bad stutter in Crysis 2 and BF3 with my 1 gb of vram at 1080p, whereas with my 2 GB cards I get none. It's very annoying since I could easily max many games if not for the vram bottleneck.
Also Stalker is somewhat obscure.
[QUOTE=Koolg223;35690919]Incorrect sir, at 1080p, newer games can exceed 1 gb of vram usage easily. I see bad stutter in Crysis 2 and BF3 with my 1 gb of vram at 1080p, whereas with my 2 GB cards I get none. It's very annoying since I could easily max many games if not for the vram bottleneck.[/QUOTE]
You're just thinking of the memory in terms of amount while ignoring the bus width and the speed. If the sheer amount of VRAM had such a large impact the 1536MB GTX 580 wouldn't beat out the 2GB HD 6970 in BF3 by that big of a gap.
[img]http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/458/bench/2560_Ultra.png[/img]
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, obviously vram is not the only factor here, I never said that. The point is that 2 GB vram is entirely necessary for a 6870 if you plan on crossfiring.
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