Thinking about getting a 40" Bravia, Monitor replacement?
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I may be buying the 40" Bravia 120hz LED model, and was thinking, Should I use this as a monitor?
And How should I use it, Like put it on my desk, mount it above my desk, or beside my desk?
I don't like to have to move my head while playing games, but thats just me
[QUOTE=Nsybouts;26500122]I don't like to have to move my head while playing games, but thats just me[/QUOTE]
I will be like 5 feet from the screen. And 40 isn't as big as your probably thinking right now.
This a 40" monitor, not that big unless your close.
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I'm not to fond of the idea of having an extra table for mouse and keyboard, Kind of why I want it on my desk, but I'm definitely going to need a bigger desk, and one with more depth.
People love the idea of huge TV screens as their monitors but in reality it isn't great because the pixel density is so huge. You can get a 21" monitor with the same resolution as that 40" TV, the difference is huge.
Does it have a fitting resolution or 1080p? If 1080, then eww, wouldn't use that as a monitor.
don't. unless it's going to be ~6 feet away, don't. and whence 6 feet away, you lose any and all advantage over just a monitor. if you have it any closer though you'll notice the pixels more, and you'll have to really look around just to look around. i say just get a larger monitor with a higher resolution.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;26500332]Does it have a fitting resolution or 1080p? If 1080, then eww, wouldn't use that as a monitor.[/QUOTE]
Why?
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[QUOTE=M_B;26500373]don't. unless it's going to be ~6 feet away, don't. and whence 6 feet away, you lose any and all advantage over just a monitor. if you have it any closer though you'll notice the pixels more, and you'll have to really look around just to look around. i say just get a larger monitor with a higher resolution.[/QUOTE]
I don't want my games frame rates to suck, I already have a Syncmastert220 1680x1050, and I really could use a new experience. Not to mention, a bit more screen space.
then get a 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 if that's all you want, it'll be larger, have literally the same screen space. and since you're placing it closer to you it'll still be, peripherally, the same size as the tv
[QUOTE=M_B;26500418]then get a 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 if that's all you want, it'll be larger, have literally the same screen space. and since you're placing it closer to you it'll still be, peripherally, the same size as the tv[/QUOTE]
I don't know. And I'm not buying 60hz screens anymore, I have a lot of older games that I want to get more out of, take advantage of there high frame-rates, 60 is really limiting.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;26500431]I don't know. And I'm not buying 60hz screens anymore, I have a lot of older games that I want to get more out of, take advantage of there high frame-rates, 60 is really limiting.[/QUOTE]
so get a 120Hz monitor
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the bravia probably doesn't even output a true 120Hz signal and just interpolates frames
[QUOTE=Odellus;26500526]so get a 120Hz monitor
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the bravia probably doesn't even output a true 120Hz signal and just interpolates frames[/QUOTE]
Saw it at the store today, It doesn't not this model at least.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;26500537]Saw it at the store today, It doesn't not this model at least.[/QUOTE]
How do you know? You can't tell without looking at something that was actually shot at 120 FPS, or having seen the television undergo ghosting tests.
I have a 42" Samsung plasma TV for a monitor before getting my current 20" Samsung LED monitor. I'm much happier using a well size monitor over a huge TV, in my opinion it's easier on the eyes.
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In my situation I had to sit on the floor, wasn't fun.
120hz TVs can't handle 120hz source material. They upscale 30 and 60hz to 120hz and can also handle 24p content without a 3:2 pulldown a 60hz display has.
If you want 120hz, get a 120hz monitor. That is a real 120hz.
That TV is using MotionFlow, so it's not really showing real 120hz content.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;26500431]I don't know. And I'm not buying 60hz screens anymore, I have a lot of older games that I want to get more out of, take advantage of there high frame-rates, 60 is really limiting.[/QUOTE]
"i'm not buying 60Hz screens anymore" erm excuse me but 120Hz as marketed on TVs is just for filtering and motion "enhancement", what you see on the screen is still just 60Hz.
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and for 120Hz monitors i believe you only get that when you're viewing/sending 3D, not exactly sure how or why, though
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and again, when it's in 3D, it's still 60Hz, just 120Hz is derived from having two 60Hz images at a time
FOR THAT MONEY get an IPS.
I hear those 30' Dell Ultrasharp IPS panels are awesome.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;26501780]FOR THAT MONEY get an IPS.
I hear those 30' Dell Ultrasharp IPS panels are awesome.[/QUOTE]
Yea I hear good things about the 3007 but I still want a tv, and I dont want to spend all that money and then more to get a tv.
And the Bravia, real motion blur or not, I couldn't see blurring, it looked smoother, I mean it's about what the eyes see right?
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[QUOTE=M_B;26501478]"i'm not buying 60Hz screens anymore" erm excuse me but 120Hz as marketed on TVs is just for filtering and motion "enhancement", what you see on the screen is still just 60Hz.
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and for 120Hz monitors i believe you only get that when you're viewing/sending 3D, not exactly sure how or why, though
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and again, when it's in 3D, it's still 60Hz, just 120Hz is derived from having two 60Hz images at a time[/QUOTE]
your thinking of frame smoothing, Sony and Samsung use true 120hz. Frame repeat mode.
Main point: TVs are absolute shit on computer usage, forget about it.
If you really want to rice it out, get one of those 27" Apple Cinema displays with 2560 x 1440 resolution.
I have a 40'' Bravia but I wouldn't want to use it as a monitor. I can't stand the pixel density. I'd fucking kill for a 30'' Dell monitor.
If you really need TV that badly why not just get a smaller 1080p TV
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or a monitor and a tuner card
[QUOTE=nikomo;26502197]Main point: TVs are absolute shit on computer usage, forget about it.
If you really want to rice it out, get one of those 27" Apple Cinema displays with 2560 x 1440 resolution.[/QUOTE]
Now THAT is a nice display.
[QUOTE=4RT1LL3RY;26500628]120hz TVs can't handle 120hz source material. They upscale 30 and 60hz to 120hz and can also handle 24p content without a 3:2 pulldown a 60hz display has.
If you want 120hz, get a 120hz monitor. That is a real 120hz.[/QUOTE]
some of them actually do 120 Hz, the ones that are certified for NVIDIA 3D.
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[QUOTE=M_B;26501478]"i'm not buying 60Hz screens anymore" erm excuse me but 120Hz as marketed on TVs is just for filtering and motion "enhancement", what you see on the screen is still just 60Hz.
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and for 120Hz monitors i believe you only get that when you're viewing/sending 3D, not exactly sure how or why, though
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and again, when it's in 3D, it's still 60Hz, just 120Hz is derived from having two 60Hz images at a time[/QUOTE]
no all of the 3D monitors for use with desktops can output a true 120Hz picture, that is, it actually refreshes (if there's a change, hence LCD) 120 times per second if the content is 120 FPS.
and there are some true 120Hz televisions
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[QUOTE=nikomo;26502197]Main point: TVs are absolute shit on computer usage, forget about it.
If you really want to rice it out, get one of those 27" Apple Cinema displays with 2560 x 1440 resolution.[/QUOTE]
you mean a Dell U2711
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;26501861]your thinking of frame smoothing, Sony and Samsung use true 120hz. Frame repeat mode.[/QUOTE]
ok just look at the name for that "feature": "Frame [B][I]repeat[/I][/B] mode"
do you seriously still think it's 120Hz? it's not, that's them giving a lame explanation for why a 120Hz display doesn't actually give you 120Hz.
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[QUOTE=Odellus;26506989]some of them actually do 120 Hz, the ones that are certified for NVIDIA 3D.
no all of the 3D monitors for use with desktops can output a true 120Hz picture, that is, it actually refreshes (if there's a change, hence LCD) 120 times per second if the content is 120 FPS.[/QUOTE]honestly i'm not at all certain about monitors, but with tvs, yes.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26506989]and there are some true 120Hz televisions[/QUOTE]yes, but none of the consumer LCD televisions marketed as 120Hz, to my knowledge.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26506989]you mean a Dell U2711[/QUOTE]
Why? They cost nearly the same, have the same resolution, they both are IPS panels, The Dell has a LOT more colors, but the Cinema Display has the iSight and speakers. Both have USB Ports. However, the Dell has many inputs, the Cinema Display has just the infuriating MiniDisplayPort. You'd need an adapter, and can still only connect to one computer at a time. I think the kicker is the Gloss/Matte finish. If you work in the dark, I'd say the Cinema Display. If you work somewhere with a fair amount of light, I'd go with the Dell. Over all, I'd say it comes down to preference between gloss and matte.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26508176]Why? They cost nearly the same, have the same resolution, they both are IPS panels, The Dell has a LOT more colors, but the Cinema Display has the iSight and speakers. Both have USB Ports. However, the Dell has many inputs, the Cinema Display has just the infuriating MiniDisplayPort. You'd need an adapter, and can still only connect to one computer at a time. I think the kicker is the Gloss/Matte finish. If you work in the dark, I'd say the Cinema Display. If you work somewhere with a fair amount of light, I'd go with the Dell. Over all, I'd say it comes down to preference between gloss and matte.[/QUOTE]
They use the exact same panel and these aren't intended for gaming, they're intended for professional work which requires perfect color reproduction. Seeing as they both use the same panel, the Dell is obviously more favorable because of the matte screen and CCFL backlighting. LED backlighting with a glossy screen is just going to offset color accuracy. The added connectivity is just an extra.
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besides, both of those monitors are out of his price range anyway
I have a 42in and it's really not that bad. I use the xbox controller for windows a lot, and im about 3-4 feet away when I normally play.
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Don't ever use a TV as a screen. If you want a big computer screen, man up and buy a 30" LCD or run multiple monitors.
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