Long story short, I bought an XFX 280x 3GB OC edition to replace my AMD HD5670 528mb because I thought my i3 3220 3Ghz wouldn't bottleneck it because of it's hyperthreading. I was deadwrong because I only got like 20fps increases.
Speccy: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZZnjuy1.png[/IMG]
PSU is a Corsair CX600 if that matters.
Now I want to upgrade to a quadcore CPU. Some people have recommended me i5's, but the cheapest i5 is ~€150, so I was wondering if I could go the AMD route and replace my motherboard as well (for the socket). I have no idea if it matters what motherboard you buy, but I was thinking of getting a Asus M5A78L-M LX3 for ~€43 and then a AMD FX-4300 for ~€78. Any ideas?
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[QUOTE] Some people have recommended me i5's, but the cheapest i5 is ~€150, so I was wondering if I could go the AMD route and replace my motherboard as well (for the socket).[/QUOTE]
Get an i5.
[QUOTE=crazykyle16;46988032]Get an i5.[/QUOTE]
Twice as expensive. Twice as good??
Keep in mind that I am perfectly happy with the performance of my current CPU for everything but gaming
AMD's FX series handles tasks differently than Intels, like multi-core stuff, they aren't that great at from what I heard (then again that was the 1st gen ones, so they might be improved.) Over all, you're going to see an improvement with an FX over the i3, but the i5 will give you a lot more bang and last a long time before it becomes a bottleneck.
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Keep in mind that I am perfectly happy with the performance of my current CPU for everything but gaming[/QUOTE]
So was I when I was still using an Athlon x2
Now I have an i5 4670K @ 4.2ghz and I'm very happy with it. It's so damn worth it.
[QUOTE=crazykyle16;46988096]AMD's FX series handles tasks differently than Intels, like multi-core stuff, they aren't that great at from what I heard (then again that was the 1st gen ones, so they might be improved.) Over all, you're going to see an improvement with an FX over the i3, but the i5 will give you a lot more bang and last a long time before it becomes a bottleneck.[/QUOTE]
Hmm. Only getting €40 a month right now but I suppose the €30 extra for the i5 would be worth it then. Cheers.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46988116]And your happiness will double if you got the i5 and spent an extra 30 euros.[/QUOTE]
Especially when you wont need to replace it in 3-4 years because its a bottleneck.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;46989047]Why do you want a quad core? If it's just for gaming a dual core is equally as good and cheaper (most gamed are fucking awful at taking advantage of more than 1 core)[/QUOTE]
At one time this was true but it isn't quite as much anymore. Some games are recommending if not outright requiring true quad cores nowadays.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;46989047]Why do you want a quad core? If it's just for gaming a dual core is equally as good and cheaper (most gamed are fucking awful at taking advantage of more than 1 core)[/QUOTE]
My 280x 3GB OC only gets unstable 20 fps at ultra 1080p. In euro truck simulator 2. My GPU is more than perfectly able to run that game flawless,so it has to be my CPU.
[QUOTE=Zotobom;46992857]My 280x 3GB OC only gets unstable 20 fps at ultra 1080p[/QUOTE]
That doesn't sound right. R9 280x should do a lot better. Your cpu is bottlenecking your gpu thats obvious. I'd either go with a FX 6300 or i5. I personally stay away from intel because of price vs performance. Intel has some standards that manufacturers have to adhere to so their mobos are more expensive on top of the better performance. However from most reviews I've seen I'm only missing out by about 5-7 fps on average by using AMD parts.
To clarify, these are the cheapest quadcore CPUs that use the socket my mobo uses (1155)
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[QUOTE=Aide;46992887]That doesn't sound right. R9 280x should do a lot better. Your cpu is bottlenecking your gpu thats obvious. I'd either go with a FX 6300 or i5. I personally stay away from intel because of price vs performance. Intel has some standards that manufacturers have to adhere to so their mobos are more expensive on top of the better performance. However from most reviews I've seen I'm only missing out by about 5-7 fps on average by using AMD parts.[/QUOTE]
And FX6300 would be way more expensive I think because i'd have to buy a new motherboard. Might be wrong though.
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AMD route or Intel route? :v:
To test how much you are CPU limited, reduce your resolution to something really low, like 720p, reduce settings to High(not ultra) then run your game and observe framerate. By reducing resolution and settings you take the workload off the GPU, this allows you to see what your CPU can do without any GPU limitations holding it back. See if you get the massive boost in fps that you think you should get.
The problem with going to an FX CPU is that in gaming your dual core Intel with HT is about the same in performance. You aren't upgrading, it's more of a sideways move.
Also, a quick search on Eurotruck simulator 2 shows a lot of results about performance problems on various computer setups. That might not be the best game to test for CPU bottlenecks.
If he's using the multiplayer mod for ETS2, then that's also no wonder why he didn't notice much of a FPS increase, since it's still in alpha stage and has a lot of synchronisation problems, which results in shitty FPS, no matter what kinda hardware you got.
Nevertheless I'd say it's about time to upgrade to a quadcore CPU anyways(I'm yet to do so as well, still rocking an Athlon X2 64). However I can play ETS2 completely fine in singleplayer(and multiplayer, besides citys), about 35-40fps average(with a GeForce 450 GTS, obviously not highest settings though).
As someone who has gone AMD with an M5A99FX mobo and AMD FX-8350 processor I would recommend you go the Intel route, even trying to upgrade to a LGA 1150 Intel mobo + CPU. Going the cheap route when I had the money to get better performance than what I got was a huge mistake and now I'll just have to wait a bit longer. Don't get me wrong if money is an issue then it's not that bad, but being money smart early even if it means going a little over budget (which I should have) could be a good long-term decision.
Also, a new motherboard will make it so you can't use windows if you installed an OEM version.
[QUOTE=crazykyle16;46998993]Also, a new motherboard will make it so you can't use windows if you installed an OEM version.[/QUOTE]
It will just ask him to reactivate.
[QUOTE=Da Big Man;46998019]As someone who has gone AMD with an M5A99FX mobo and AMD FX-8350 processor I would recommend you go the Intel route, even trying to upgrade to a LGA 1150 Intel mobo + CPU. Going the cheap route when I had the money to get better performance than what I got was a huge mistake and now I'll just have to wait a bit longer. Don't get me wrong if money is an issue then it's not that bad, but being money smart early even if it means going a little over budget (which I should have) could be a good long-term decision.[/QUOTE]
I already have a LGA1150 mobo I think.
So i5 2500k it is?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47000334]no the 2500K is a LGA1155, your current motherboard is an LGA1155, the processor you're upgrading from is an LGA1155[/QUOTE]
Cheers. Not going to upgrade to a 1150 motherboard atm though, €160 is already stretching my tiny budget lol
Just to confirm, the K means it's overclockable right? I mean, I won't be able to afford a CPU Cooler right now but possibly in the future....
[QUOTE=Demache;46999536]It will just ask him to reactivate.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it will. but he has 30 days until he's locked out unless he buys a new key.
OEM key are locked to the vendor your motherboard specifies. OEM keys in Windows 8 are written to the UEFI bios on first activation, and can't be activated on other machines even if the vendor is correct.
However if you just call microsofts number on the product key activation screen, tell them your motherboard was dead and you replaced it, they'll just give you a new key, because they are nice people.
I'm on W7 atm but I have a W8 copy as well. Too lazy to replace my W7 with 8 so that'll be the perfect moment I guess
[QUOTE=Cold;47001964]OEM key are locked to the vendor your motherboard specifies. OEM keys in Windows 8 are written to the UEFI bios on first activation, and can't be activated on other machines even if the vendor is correct.
However if you just call microsofts number on the product key activation screen, tell them your motherboard was dead and you replaced it, they'll just give you a new key, because they are nice people.[/QUOTE]
All you've gotta do is go through the automated activation phone menu and when they ask how many times it's been activated, say one.
[QUOTE=Cold;47001964]OEM key are locked to the vendor your motherboard specifies. OEM keys in Windows 8 are written to the UEFI bios on first activation, and can't be activated on other machines even if the vendor is correct.
However if you just call microsofts number on the product key activation screen, tell them your motherboard was dead and you replaced it, they'll just give you a new key, because they are nice people.[/QUOTE]
They aren't locked, the windows 8 pro key on my custom built desktop came from an acer ultrabook. You can grab the key from the BIOS with RWeverything.
The only OS that really did that was vista.
[QUOTE=crazykyle16;47001565]Yes, it will. but he has 30 days until he's locked out unless he buys a new key.[/QUOTE]
No, you can activate it over the phone and the key will simply move over to the new motherboard
Would it be stupid to get a used CPU? Because I could get that same i5 2500k for only €100
[QUOTE=Zotobom;47052175]Would it be stupid to get a used CPU? Because I could get that same i5 2500k for only €100[/QUOTE]
The only thing with used hardware is you don't know if they've done anything stupid to it like dialed in 9.99v when trying to overclock it.
Other than that, nothing else wrong with used.
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