This is actually great news for everyone involved: the fact that its x86 and not the cell processor means that games'll be easier to develop and optimise for the PS4, and it also has the side effect of making porting to the PC easier! And given the things they've been able to do with the current-gen consoles despite them being for all intents and purposes shite I cant wait to see what they'll be able to do with this. who knows, maybe even the new xbox will be on x86 and thinks'll have come full circle.
Well, they did say the PS4 was going to be super easy to work with this time around... How much easier can it get than to basically shove a PC in the box?
Lets see how much sony spent on crypto this time.
[quote](although no mention of SSD)[/quote]
An SSD would bring back the $599 price tag for sure.
With the ram they have, they probably don't need an SSD. They can optimize to keep most of the game in ram I'd imagine.
Think about it, they have like 32x the Ram to use, that's a huge improvement.
Now we wait until the fan boys claim ps4 is 10 times faster than a pc.
[QUOTE=Dantai;39665711]An SSD would bring back the $599 price tag for sure.[/QUOTE]
also ssds die after like 3-4 years
[QUOTE=Starship;39666486]Now we wait until the fan boys claim ps4 is 10 times faster than a pc.[/QUOTE]
Truth be told, it is going to rival the PC again in terms of performance for a while (PC remains more powerful, but the console is far more optimized). At least graphically we won't see much of a difference.
It has a graphics card with 8gb GDDR5 ram? Is that a typo?
A console/pc hybrid?
A drm machine with relatively interchangeable parts?
I'm interested.
[QUOTE=borisvdb;39667310]It has a graphics card with 8gb GDDR5 ram? Is that a typo?[/QUOTE]
the system itself uses GDDR5 for it's memory. GDDR is faster than regular old DDR-types that we use
[QUOTE=borisvdb;39667310]It has a graphics card with 8gb GDDR5 ram? Is that a typo?[/QUOTE]
It has 8gb of GDDR5 unified ram.
Great news for everyone.
Great news for sony, getting more optimized games early on for their console.
Great news for devs, having an easier time porting/developing for PS4.
Great news for players, because fuck yes optimized games!
Prediction: You can install steam on the PS4
prediction: garry is wrong
It would be rather interesting to use the big picture mode on a real console.
Super interested in this. Sounds absolutely great.
I wonder if they will bring back the ability to install additional operating systems considering the abundance of x86 targeted ones
[QUOTE=MasterFen007;39667853]It would be rather interesting to use the big picture mode on a real console.[/QUOTE]
or you know... just use the console's standard UI? its purpose is the exact same as big picture
[QUOTE=MasterFen007;39667853]It would be rather interesting to use the big picture mode on a real console.[/QUOTE]
why would you use Valve's ten foot UI on a console that already has a ten foot UI
I do admit I freaking love the typing method big picture uses though
he presumably means by 'console' something that''s built around big picture mode and which plugs into your tv like a normal console, rather than a hacky thing to get big picture running on a preexisting console
It would be cool to run PS4 OS on a pc, since my specs are almost similar, I guess it would be possible since they're technically shoving a PC into a box and using it as a console?
Also I'd find it interesting if they would use virtual ram from the SSD if that 8GB were to be taken up, but I'd like to see 8GB being used up by one game.
Since the PS4 uses an x86 CPU, would that mean that it in theory at least would be possible to install Windows on it? Or am I wrong?
Dual boot with Windows 7 and PS4, I wonder maybe in the future if Microsoft decides to do the same as Sony, could there be a potential to do dual boot between XBox and Play Station.
[QUOTE=Folstream;39668572]Since the PS4 uses an x86 CPU, would that mean that it in theory at least would be possible to install Windows on it? Or am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
Most of the hardware will be proprietary, so the answer is "very probably not"
I'd imagine with tons of hacking and driver-writing you could run Linux on it, though, since you could on the PS2 and PS3 (with their special Linux stuff) and on the Xbox, which is also x86.
[QUOTE=Ruzza;39668590]Dual boot with Windows 7 and PS4, I wonder maybe in the future if Microsoft decides to do the same as Sony, could there be a potential to do dual boot between XBox and Play Station.[/QUOTE]
Just because it uses x86 doesn't mean you'll be able to install Windows on it or the Xbox 720 OS. That's wishful thinking and it will likely be proprietorially locked down again with no ability to install third party operating systems.
[QUOTE=Clavus;39667183]Truth be told, it is going to rival the PC again in terms of performance for a while (PC remains more powerful, but the console is far more optimized). At least graphically we won't see much of a difference.[/QUOTE]
Not sure why people disagree with this, it'll certainly happen now in the start of the PS4's life cycle due to:
1 - How consoles have been holding back PC development. (PC games aren't where they could be in terms of graphics)
2 - How well optimized the games are for the console, which also runs a really lightweight OS.
PS4 games in the beginning will look better than most, maybe all, PC games for a period of time.
I'm fairly certain of this.
This does of course not mean that the console is [I]stronger[/I] than a gaming desktop.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39668643]Most of the hardware will be proprietary, so the answer is "very probably not"
I'd imagine with tons of hacking and driver-writing you could run Linux on it, though, since you could on the PS2 and PS3 (with their special Linux stuff) and on the Xbox, which is also x86.[/QUOTE]
Well it was possible to use Linux because Sony supported that for a while. Maybe they will support it on the PS4?
[QUOTE=GhostlyGob;39666720]also ssds die after like 3-4 years[/QUOTE]
Everyone rating disagree hasn't owned a ssd. they burn out surprisingly fast - but the tech is getting better thankfully
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