[QUOTE]Apple has advised users facing the problem to contact Apple support.[/QUOTE]
Yeah no shit, but when you do that all they say is you're SOL and have to either buy another phone or spend a metric assload of money to get it fixed so you can keep your shit. The process of which is probably just transferring the data to a new phone.
So pretty much the only thing Apple "geniuses" will tell you is "buy a new phone, oathbreaker"
How do you ensure you milk every cent possible from your consumers? Simple, make it illegal to repair your device unless its by Apple. And if you break the rule, Apple breaks your phone. Fucking lovely.
So much for OWNING what you paid for.
You know I actually wonder how this will go in terms of a definitely coming lawsuit (either US class action or European commission\various consumer watchdogs).
Something tells me that apple won't possible be able to maintain this.
Pretty damn sure this is illegal in one or more ways since they're intentionally hampering the usage of the device just because it was serviced by non-apple certified personnel.
Although maybe not in the US, since John Deere and probably also some auto manufacturers have used the DMCA to prevent owners and third parties to service products they've made:
[url]http://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere[/url]
[url]https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150513/18001030993/john-deere-clarifies-trying-to-abuse-copyright-law-to-stop-you-owning-your-own-tractor-because-it-cares-about-you.shtml[/url]
Which just shows how backwards retarded software rights are, since software you've bought is only considered a service.
I can understand voiding warranty, or refusing tech support if you decided to get something done by someone other than the OEM
But disabling devices? Thats particularly fucking salty.
Dell got assfucked by similar practices back when they used to swap two pins on their PSU connectors so if you used a non-dell PSU it literally nuked your mobo.
IIRC they got sued [I]hard.[/I]
Hoping this means Apple's stock will collapse even more than it already is.
One could flip a good profit on their current idiocy.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49679613]Dell got assfucked by similar practices back when they used to swap two pins on their PSU connectors so if you used a non-dell PSU it literally nuked your mobo.
IIRC they got sued [I]hard.[/I][/QUOTE]
That is pretty cheeky right there.
Its actually quite reassuring how well Dell has taken back their QA in the last couple years since they went back to a private company. Sure their prices went up a little bit, but the quality of their products went up and their bloatware count way the fuck down. Stockholders are more caustic to a company than the executives obliging and implementing corrosive techniques to boost profit gain.
This has been known for a while now.
Guess who's going to buy an Android phone after his 4S breaks.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49679756]That is pretty cheeky right there.
Its actually quite reassuring how well Dell has taken back their QA in the last couple years since they went back to a private company. Sure their prices went up a little bit, but the quality of their products went up and their bloatware count way the fuck down. Stockholders are more caustic to a company than the executives obliging and implementing corrosive techniques to boost profit gain.[/QUOTE]
I've been using a few of their new ones from their bottom-end models lately and they're honestly quite nice even though they still feel cheap.
Although even HP turned their shit around, but only for their pro-book lineup, rest of theirs is still shit or overpriced.
[QUOTE=Van-man;49680389]I've been using a few of their new ones from their bottom-end models lately and they're honestly quite nice even though they still feel cheap.
Although even HP turned their shit around, but only for their pro-book lineup, rest of theirs is still shit or overpriced.[/QUOTE]
Their Probook/Elitebook line has been solid since Sandy though, the rest just gets steadily shittier.
This is intentional so that a thief or other person cannot swap out the Home button with one that allows access to the "secure enclave" which holds Apple Pay card data, your Fingerprint, and more. If a third party could get into the phone and swap out the Touch ID with a custom module that would send all that data to a third party, you could have iPhones sold from third parties that are bugged to steal your cards or Fingerprints. It makes sense why this is done, it's jut handled very badly.
Stupid that it just flat out locks all that information (they should definitely update this to simply wipe all the secure data and then allow you to continue using the phone) and it's definitely a problem that they absolutely must solve.
[QUOTE=ihatecompvir;49680505]This is intentional so that a thief or other person cannot swap out the Home button with one that allows access to the "secure enclave" which holds Apple Pay card data, your Fingerprint, and more. If a third party could get into the phone and swap out the Touch ID with a custom module that would send all that data to a third party, you could have iPhones sold from third parties that are bugged to steal your cards or Fingerprints. It makes sense why this is done, it's jut handled very badly.
Stupid that it just flat out locks all that information (they should definitely update this to simply wipe all the secure data and then allow you to continue using the phone) and it's definitely a problem that they absolutely must solve.[/QUOTE]
Two factor authentication using alternate methods for verifying that you still possess the phone and that you've authorized the hardware changes.
Or just not store the fingerprint data in the somewhat easily replaceable yet damageable module.
[QUOTE=ihatecompvir;49680505]Stupid that it just flat out locks all that information (they should definitely update this to simply wipe all the secure data and then allow you to continue using the phone) and it's definitely a problem that they absolutely must solve.[/QUOTE]
Like how Windows requires reinstallation after the motherboard is replaced? Yeah, that would be a lot more reasonable than essentially destroying the damn thing.
[QUOTE=Cheshire_cat;49681045]Like how Windows requires reinstallation after the motherboard is replaced? Yeah, that would be a lot more reasonable than essentially destroying the damn thing.[/QUOTE]
Except it doesn't. It MAY have to be because of chipset differences but that's on a different level.
[QUOTE=Cheshire_cat;49681045]Like how Windows requires reinstallation after the motherboard is replaced? Yeah, that would be a lot more reasonable than essentially destroying the damn thing.[/QUOTE]
If you get an OEM copy sure, otherwise it doesn't do that at all.
In my experience you don't even have to reinstall, you just have to dial a 1-800 number and reactivate your windows key.
If I'm reading this right, if you change out the fingerprint reader which is also the home buttons, the phone disables itself.
So it's like how if you swap a [url=http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Embedded_Security_Subsystem]TPM board in a Thinkpad[/url] the laptop will disable POSTing. I understand why it would do this but it seems a bit poorly designed to embed a linked security device in a component that regularly wears out.
[QUOTE=Levelog;49681165]Except it doesn't. It MAY have to be because of chipset differences but that's on a different level.[/QUOTE]
Mmm, not sure then. Guess I've just developed the habit. I've always replaced the motherboard and the processor at the same time if that makes a difference.
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