Could you please give me your opinion on a $1243 build? - Hardware & Software

First off, I'd like your opinion on a build I got on a forum in my country. The computer will be used for gaming, like Skyrim, Saints Row 3, Serious Sam 3, all the new games and future games. I'd also like the computer to be able to new games on maximum settings, or at least high for the next 2 years. My budget is 4600 NIS, which is about $1243. Here is the build I was told to buy: Processor: AMD Phenom 2 955 3.2Ghz 64Bit Quad Core AM2+/AM3 Black Edition Box Quantity: 1 Price: 715 NIS Processor cooling system: Scythe JAPAN MUGEN 3 1155 + 1366 SUPPORT Quantity: 1 Price: 230 NIS Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 AMD 990X+SB950 Chipset Quantity: 1 Price: 594 NIS Computer body package: Fractal Design Core - 3000 Mid Case Quantity: 1 Price: 356 NIS Power Supply: Seasonic PSU 620W Active PFC 80+ Retail Quantity: 1 Price: 370 NIS RAM memory: Crucial 4GB DDR3 -1333 Quantity: 2 Price: 107 NIS Video Card: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E Quantity: 2 Price: 648 NIS Disc Drive: SONY NEC DVDRW DVR x 24 SATA AD7280S BLACK Quantity: 1 Price: 100 Screen: I'm buying a new one, but couldn't find the exact model. It is a 23" FHD, 1920 x 1080 DVI, 2ms. Quantity: 1 Price: 850 NIS Total: 4,725 NIS. Now, what do you think of the total build and the price? Is this a good computer that will hold? I have a budget of 4600 NIS, but can add 200 more if needed. For your comparison, $1 = 3.7 NIS Thanks for your help, and you if you think you can build me a better computer for the same budget or less, it will be much appreciated!

Erm, Get an i5 2500k, z68 motherboard.

Bad CPU, Bad PSU, get 750Watt to power your build + them two cards

You don't need 750W for 2 6850s

I agree, and SataniX why do you disagree with an i5 2500k and a z68 motherboard?

The only advice I can suggest is stay away from SLI/Crossfire GPU's it will only lead to problems and issues down the road (2 GTX 275's here), Get a single, more powerful card.

[QUOTE=TGiFallen;34267231]The only advice I can suggest is stay away from SLI/Crossfire GPU's it will only lead to problems and issues down the road (2 GTX 275's here), Get a single, more powerful card.[/QUOTE] What problems will that cause that a single GPU won't? And I assume SataniX rated disagree because that will go over OP's "budget" (we don't really know if s/he has one yet).

[QUOTE=AgentBoomstick;34267360]What problems will that cause that a single GPU won't? And I assume SataniX rated disagree because that will go over OP's "budget" (we don't really know if s/he has one yet).[/QUOTE] he said a $1200 budget or 4600 NIS and an i5 2500k and z68 fit into a $1200 budget.

Actually, I looked into building a computer with an i5 and a different motherboard, but it made my build like $100 more expensive, or a total of 5000 NIS, and I can't afford it. Also, is there a problem with Crossfire GPUs? Because I never experimented with it and it sounds interesting. OH! Also, I forgot to mention, ofcourse I will have a warranty on everything, and they can OC your processor in the store, under warranty, and for no extra charge, so it will have higher performance.

People usually don't crossfire/sli right away, they buy a more powerful gpu for the price of the crossfire setup (or less, you decide) and then cf/sli it once they'll actually need it. It saves both the previously bought gpu, and with that case most likely grants you more performance then solely replacing a card. Stick with a single 6850 or go up to a 6950/nvidia equivalent, most certainly get p67/z68 with a 2500k as the phenom is straight out junk in comparison.

Do you mind giving me an alternate build? I will later check the price. Thanks.

Get a more powerful PSU so next time you upgrade your PC you don't need to buy another PSU.

If I am taking an Intel processor instead, and a stronger, single video card for the same price, do I need to change everything else, like the motherboard, cooling system, power supply, case and all that stuff? [editline]19th January 2012[/editline] Just so you know, they only overclock AMD, so if I want an intel processor with the same performance like an overclocked AMD one, I will need to invest more money. Also, the OC is free.

Yes. You will want a Z68 Mobo for your budget if you go with Intel (which you really should do by the way). I would also advise against getting a cooler before you even know if you are getting a chip that will OC well or not.

I just checked, and a computer with an i5 with the same performance as a not overclocked AMD processor and a stronger single video card with the requirement of a different motherboard, make the build a lot more expensive, like $300 over-budget. What should I do?

Here is a different build, with an i5 and a single, stronger video card, what do you guys say? Which is better, this one or the one in the OP? Keep in mind the build in the OP will have an overclocked processor, so it will be stronger, but this build will have an overclocked GPU. Processor: Intel Quad Core I5 2500 Quad Core 3.3GHZ 1155 6MB Tray Quantity: 1 Price: 962 NIS Processor Cooling System: ZALMAN CNPS5X SI EDITION Quantity: 1 Price: 140 NIS Motherboard: Biostar TZ68A+ for socket 1155 Sata 3 + USB 3 Quantity: 1 Price: 314 NIS Computer Package Fractal Design Core - 3000 Mid Case Quantity: 1 Price: 359 NIS Power Supply Unit: Seasonic PSU 620W Active PFC 80+ Retail Quantity: 1 Price: 370 NIS RAM memory: Micron Rendition 4GB DDR3 -1333 Quantity: 2 Price: 102 NIS Hard Drive: Samsung 1TB Sata II 32MB SpinPoint F3 Quantity: 1 Price: 580 NIS Video Card: Sparkle GTX570 1280MB GDDR5 HDMI - Overclocked Quantity: 1 Price: 1443 NIS Flash\Disc Drive: SONY NEC DVDRW DVR x 24 SATA AD7280S BLACK Quantity: 1 Price: 100 NIS Screen: Same as in OP. Total price: 4472 NIS or $1208

I only mention this for your own benefit, get a higher power PSU so when you upgrade again, you don't need to waste more money on a new PSU.

Would you mind recommending a specific one? [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] Also, please give me an opinion on the new build and which one I should buy.

[QUOTE=Holy Altnir;34321378]Keep in mind the build in the OP will have an overclocked processor, so it will be stronger, but this build will have an overclocked GPU. [/QUOTE] The 2500k is only $10 more and you can overclock it, so I don't get why you're saying only the one in the OP is overclocked when you could just add the 2500k to the second build and get a way better computer than the first one.

A 620w PSU is just fine and especially since power consumption is going down on newer technology, also you dont really need a 570 as a 560 ti will do you just fine but get what you want. Also your build is just fine and you should get that.

You should get the i5/i7 if you're in that price range

[QUOTE=Zerokateo;34329946]A 620w PSU is just fine and especially since power consumption is going down on newer technology, also you dont really need a 570 as a 560 ti will do you just fine but get what you want. [b]Also your build is just fine and you should get that.[/b][/QUOTE] You are referring to the second build, I assume? And thanks, I think I'll get it. It will be able to run all the new games on maximum settings, and hold on for some time, right? [editline]22nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;34329758]The 2500k is only $10 more and you can overclock it, so I don't get why you're saying only the one in the OP is overclocked when you could just add the 2500k to the second build and get a way better computer than the first one.[/QUOTE] The store I'm buying from only overclocks AMD processors, not Intel, and I don't think I will overclock on my own, since I don't know how to do so and I don't want to fuck up my computer and kill it horribly.

[QUOTE=Holy Altnir;34342466] The store I'm buying from only overclocks AMD processors, not Intel, and I don't think I will overclock on my own, since I don't know how to do so and I don't want to fuck up my computer and kill it horribly.[/QUOTE] Overclocking a Sandy Bridge CPU isn't hard at all, it's quite easy.

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[QUOTE=Holy Altnir;34321378]Here is a different build, with an i5 and a single, stronger video card, what do you guys say? Which is better, this one or the one in the OP? Keep in mind the build in the OP will have an overclocked processor, so it will be stronger, but this build will have an overclocked GPU. Processor: Intel Quad Core I5 2500 Quad Core 3.3GHZ 1155 6MB Tray Quantity: 1 Price: 962 NIS Processor Cooling System: ZALMAN CNPS5X SI EDITION Quantity: 1 Price: 140 NIS Motherboard: Biostar TZ68A+ for socket 1155 Sata 3 + USB 3 Quantity: 1 Price: 314 NIS Computer Package Fractal Design Core - 3000 Mid Case Quantity: 1 Price: 359 NIS Power Supply Unit: Seasonic PSU 620W Active PFC 80+ Retail Quantity: 1 Price: 370 NIS RAM memory: Micron Rendition 4GB DDR3 -1333 Quantity: 2 Price: 102 NIS Hard Drive: Samsung 1TB Sata II 32MB SpinPoint F3 Quantity: 1 Price: 580 NIS Video Card: Sparkle GTX570 1280MB GDDR5 HDMI - Overclocked Quantity: 1 Price: 1443 NIS Flash\Disc Drive: SONY NEC DVDRW DVR x 24 SATA AD7280S BLACK Quantity: 1 Price: 100 NIS Screen: Same as in OP. Total price: 4472 NIS or $1208[/QUOTE] This build OP, this one will last you the longest and is the best you've built so far so just get it and if you ever need a more powerful PSU you can get one buy you shouldnt need it. And sataniX hes not in america he just converted the prices from his country to ours.

[QUOTE=Kirbyguy22;34342767]Overclocking a Sandy Bridge CPU isn't hard at all, it's quite easy.[/QUOTE] How do you do it? Isn't there the risk of it getting fried? Because when the store overclocks something, you still get a warranty on it if something happens, and I don't want to have to buy a new CPU considering its 715 NIS, which is almost a new FHD 23" monitor.

[QUOTE=Holy Altnir;34343921]How do you do it? Isn't there the risk of it getting fried? Because when the store overclocks something, you still get a warranty on it if something happens, and I don't want to have to buy a new CPU considering its 715 NIS, which is almost a new FHD 23" monitor.[/QUOTE] Overclocking is simple, all you do is go into the bios and do a couple things but you dont have to and if all you're doing is gaming you don't need to. And the risk of anything getting fried is if you dont have proper cooling and if you dont run any tests to make sure the overclock is stable.

What kind of tests? And thank you very much for the help so far.

Basically, if you're lazy, you can look up common safe voltages and settings for overclocks up to around 4.4-4.6 GHz and just use them.

Or don't touch voltages and raise the the core clock slightly to what the 2600k is?