• How much bottlenecking can I expect?
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So my 2 year old XFX Geforce 9800GT has died of overheating yesterday. It was pretty much expected, I knew that the 9800GT's (XFX especially, since mine is a single-slot card) had issues with overheating, and running at 70*C while idle... well, it was frustrating but not much of a shock. Anyway, I'm in the market for a new GPU, and I'm looking at the GTX 460. I'm a little strapped for cash, I only have about $50 that I was saving for Portal 2 and very little income, so this is the most I'm willing to spend to future-proof my rig. Aside: Why does the GTX 460 come in both 192-bit and 256-bit? It's a little bit dumb, to say the least. I'd probably go with the ASUS GTX 460 with the 256-bit memory and 1GB, since that seems to be the most value at $229. Anyway, on to the real question. My CPU/Motherboard is fairly old, and I haven't upgraded both in the five years that I've had this computer. I'm also expecting it to be cramped, since my case is MicroATX. But how much performance lost can I expect with a AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (2.0GHz)? Or rather, how much performance can I expect to gain over the 9800GT? As long as it's substantial enough, that's fine. I'm running a Geforce 6150LE right now, so I'll go crazy without my dual monitors and games that were released in the last decade. Specs: AMD Athlon X2 3800+ (2.0GHz Dual Core) 4GB OCZ RAM, DDR2 some hard drives OCZ StealthXStream 500W PSU Geforce 6150LE, formerly 9800GT. 20.5" LCD + 15" LCD.
How much bottlenecking CAN'T you expect? :smug:
funny you ask that, that's one of the reasons the 460 is memory bottlenecked yeah it would be bottlenecked pretty badly
Gts 450
I have a 9800GT, which run's in the low 30's... I don't get why yours was anywhere near 70.. and yeah there's gonna be one hell of a bottle neck
Dude, my 9800GT was notorious for overheating. About a week before it failed (after keeping it for 3 years) it would BOOST for 70C idling then artifact on desktop.
[QUOTE=anikilol;24832280]Gts 450[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know about the 450. I'm planning on upgrading the whole works later in the future (processor, motherboard, RAM, case) so if I spend a little bit extra now, then I get more performance in the future without having to upgrade the GPU again to take advantage of it. Thanks, though. [QUOTE=Mokkan13;24834043]I have a 9800GT, which run's in the low 30's... I don't get why yours was anywhere near 70.. and yeah there's gonna be one hell of a bottle neck[/QUOTE] What type of 9800GT did you have? I had one of the XFX ones, single slot, so it's understandable why mine got such ridiculous temperatures.
I dunno if this helps you at all, as I don't really know a whole lot about GPU's, [img]http://gyazo.com/7f9048d8d599f078bccdc8742b2eabeb.png[/img] And if this is relevant, it has 2x DVi ports at the back.
[QUOTE=Mokkan13;24838072]I dunno if this helps you at all, as I don't really know a whole lot about GPU's, [img]http://gyazo.com/7f9048d8d599f078bccdc8742b2eabeb.png[/img] And if this is relevant, it has 2x DVi ports at the back.[/QUOTE] GigaByte. Have you tried baking the card?
why would he bake it? His card works fine.
It was a quistion coined on OP.
so use line breaks to separate
[QUOTE=Mokkan13;24834043]I have a 9800GT, which run's in the low 30's... I don't get why yours was anywhere near 70..[/QUOTE] My PNY 9800GT was always running at high temps just like OP's. About 65*C idle and 80 under full load. One time it hit 105*C. I'm surprised it still works. Anyways, turns out that my old PC case just had really shitty cooling so I bought a better case and *bam* problem solved.
I haven't tried baking it yet. Gonna try that this weekend. Also, what's the difference between the 768MB, 192-bit 460 and the 1GB, 256-bit 460? I don't need the extra memory, since my screenres is only 1440x1050, but is the faster memory interface really worth $70 more on the total price?
it performs better regardless of resolution, the 256 bit bus on the 1GB version is just there to accommodate for the larger amount of memory
[QUOTE=Odellus;24845773]so use line breaks to separate[/QUOTE] Sorry, dad. I've failed you for the last time.
An AMD 3800+, Shit those things are old. And you want to get a 460?
[QUOTE=thedekoykid;24936070]An AMD 3800+, Shit those things are old. And you want to get a 460?[/QUOTE] He already knows there is going to be a bottleneck, he just wants to know to what extent.
I had a single core 3800+ sooo....it sucked. Can they even overclock well? Mine got up to 2.6GHz just fine, but like I said mine was a single core.
[QUOTE=thedekoykid;24936070]An AMD 3800+, Shit those things are old. And you want to get a 460?[/QUOTE] Still going to upgrade all the other parts, the graphics card upgrade was merely a necessity.
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