Hey guys, I built my PC about 3 years ago now and have been slowly upgrading it over time.
TL;DR I want to upgrade my Haswell CPU to a Kaby Lake. I will need a new Mobo, RAM and CPU combo, what do you reccomend?
The current specs are:
CPU: Intel i5 4670K OC'd @ 4.0GHz
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H115i
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1
RAM: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical DDR3-1866
SSD 1: Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
SSD 2: Crucial BX100 500GB
HDD: Samsung HD103SJ 1TB
GPU: Asus GTX 1080 Strix OC edition
PSU: EVGA SuperNova P2 750W 80+ Platinum
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass Black
Budget isn't really a problem for me as I was looking at spending around £800 - $990
But I need to upgrade my CPU now as I wanted to go with an i7, I do a bit of video editing sometimes so I know I'd be able to make use of the hyper threading.
I can play every game I've got on ultra and get a solid 60+ fps but sometimes it does drop down to the 40's on games like Skyrim and I think I can only pin that on mods, otherwise I think my CPU is bottlenecking me.
I was looking at the i7 7700k and I was wondering are there any reasons I shouldn't go for it? It'll give me approximately a 25% performance increase according to CPU comparison websites.
The only thing I'm not sure on is the motherboard.
I'd prefer to keep it Asus purely for OCD reasons, ASUS GPU and Mobo, but I was planning to get the i7 a new motherboard and probably 64GB of DDR4 ram, cause why not.
So is the 7700k a reasonable upgrade for someone in a 4th gen intel processor?
Funny enough I'm in the same boat
Intel i5 4670K (No OC) - 3.40Hz
Asus Z97-PRO
G.Skill Ripjaws (2x4 @ 1300hz)
Currently, Kaby Lake is the new `thing` everyone's been talking about, until Ryzen showed up which is not available as of yet.
But that means, with Ryzen, and word going around with it, I would not be surprised if the market would shift with it. Prices of currently avaliable products might become cheaper, or not. If it becomes a good contender, it could be something worth waiting for.
It's like when buying a apple products, you'd look up how old the currently available products have been available, and with historical data, you would determine if a new model would be coming out soon, because why buy a new product at it's price when you know something is around the corner that will have an influence on the market
So my practice and advice right now it to hold out until we have something right around the corner to compare with, both performance and financially
[QUOTE=Scratch.;51703626]Funny enough I'm in the same boat
Intel i5 4670K (No OC) - 3.40Hz
Asus Z97-PRO
G.Skill Ripjaws (2x4 @ 1300hz)
Currently, Kaby Lake is the new `thing` everyone's been talking about, until Ryzen showed up which is not available as of yet.
But that means, with Ryzen, and word going around with it, I would not be surprised if the market would shift with it. Prices of currently avaliable products might become cheaper, or not. If it becomes a good contender, it could be something worth waiting for.
It's like when buying a apple products, you'd look up how old the currently available products have been available, and with historical data, you would determine if a new model would be coming out soon, because why buy a new product at it's price when you know something is around the corner that will have an influence on the market
So my practice and advice right now it to hold out until we have something right around the corner to compare with, both performance and financially[/QUOTE]
That's actually solid advice, I'll keep that in mind, it'll take me 3 months to save up about £1,2k anyway but I don't think anything new is coming out any time soon to add competitive prices for Intel is all. I hear they're dominating AMD right now.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;51703640]I would not upgrade unless you [U]need[/U] hyperthreading. That cpu is still really good, and it wont bottleneck the 1080.
Just overclock it more if you need extra performance.
[editline]21st January 2017[/editline]
Use HWMonitor to check if the CPU is maxing out before the GPU in games.[/QUOTE]
I OC'd it to 4ghz but anything over that it kept shutting down randomly. But I just feel like it is bottlenecking though, as I've been getting frame drops in games the 1080 should handle fine. I'm not playing Battlefield 1 or anything super intensive graphically, it's like Skyrim, I kinda want to blame the engine on that one though and the mods. The mods aren't too intensive, mostly adding extra weapons/items NPC fixes and stuff but I have a sweetfx setting and a few texture changes but no massive texture packs. I also got massive frame drops playing Metro 2033 Redux it went right down to 15fps at one point and forced me to quit the game. I suppose I don't need the hyper threading, but I still want to go for an i7, I know it's not necessary but I can repurpose my old components and take them to work with me to set up a computer there to play games on.
But I'll try checking with HW monitor later today when I get home and see if it is maxing out at all
Haswell folks, don't upgrade.
Ivy Bridge is still viable in the day and age, it's beginning to start to show its age. Sandy Bridge is pretty old though.
I would recommend waiting to see AMD Ryzen results at all costs if you're looking for High-performance CPUs.
Not sure how well Haswell stacks up against Kaby, but they where on par perhaps a bit stronger on single threaded processes compared to Skylake.
If your machine is rebooting at 4GHz OC, check vdroop/Loadline calibration.
Tbh there wouldn't even be any point in upgrading
I have pretty much the exact specs. Motherboards rarely need upgrading, and CPU's even less commonly.
CPU's are experiencing an extreme slow period, unlike GPU's
[editline]21st January 2017[/editline]
People will pretend that because X thing is "New" it "MUST BE BETTER"
but there's literally no point in upgrading at all. It's only worth it if you want to start off with a new cpu.
with a gtx 1080 there should be literally no game that runs poorly unless you manage to totally fuck things up
Pretty much. I'm running a 4770k and the only reason I'll upgrade to Ryzen is to support AMD if they put out a good product. My GPU on the other hand kinda needs upgrading and it was the most powerful GPU on the market when it dropped around the same time as my i7.
That is one overkill pc right there, but kaby lake is terrible, maybe once amd gets their cpu, intel will actually start improving cannonlake which is meant to be a big step.
Considering you have a gtx 1080 an i7 is a must.
[QUOTE=spectator1;51708698]That is one overkill pc right there, but kaby lake is terrible, maybe once amd gets their cpu, intel will actually start improving cannonlake which is meant to be a big step.
[b]Considering you have a gtx 1080 an i7 is a must.[/b][/QUOTE]
No it really isn't.
[QUOTE=spectator1;51708698]That is one overkill pc right there, but kaby lake is terrible, maybe once amd gets their cpu, intel will actually start improving cannonlake which is meant to be a big step.
Considering you have a gtx 1080 an i7 is a must.[/QUOTE]
tbh I almost feel like this idea that i7 is an absolute is a prank at this point
you must have this many cores to play the game correctly!
[editline]23rd January 2017[/editline]
For everything else or if you're starting off with it an i7 is great
but upgrading is a literal waste of money
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