• HTML5 + Youtube= Happy Macbook
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I have recently downloaded Google Chrome for mac and turned on html5 mode on youtube and now my macbook stays nice and cool when watching videos. With Adobe Flash my mac was burning up. Just wondering if you guys have tried this out.
I have and it's much better.
Jobs was right, flash sucks as a player.
In all the sites ive been to, html5 sucks ass. Havent tried this yet, will try in the morning
[QUOTE=rundevil;22384064]Jobs was right, flash sucks as a player.[/QUOTE] Only on Macs.
... From a technical standpoint, it should not make any difference. Why? Because it's still decoding the file in the GPU. The choice of using Flash or HTML5 only changes the video player (and soon the video container and codec due to HTML5 being such a crappy standard at current) I'm pretty sure you're under the affects of a placebo.
[QUOTE=Pandamobile;22384429]Only on Macs.[/QUOTE] Meh, I've been using a Windows laptop for the past couple weeks and I haven't seen much of a difference.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;22384497]I'm pretty sure you're under the affects of a placebo.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure it balances GPU with CPU use rather than dumping it entirely on the processor, burning a hole in your lap.
[QUOTE=WaLLy3K;22388095]I'm pretty sure it balances GPU with CPU use rather than dumping it entirely on the processor, burning a hole in your lap.[/QUOTE] It doesn't though. Safari and Flash (Flash since 10.1 thanks to Apple's introduction of the "Video Decode Acceleration Framework Reference" in 10.6.3) both use the GPU to decode the video. There is no difference between video decoding in the browser or Flash - if you believe there is, you are seriously misguided. Which is exactly why you shouldn't buy into all of what Steve Jobs has said about Adobe Flash.
What the shit? Since when was there an HTML5 mode for YouTube?
Since forever, however watching YouTube in HTML5 is more useless than ever since Google needs to go through every video and recode it for Chrome. [url]http://www.youtube.com/html5[/url]
html5 doesn't work on my iMac yet :( I heard they're implementing it though :D And also they screwed the idea of flash for the iPad, and replaced it with HTML 5 (or are going to) due to popular belief that Flash is 'slow' and 'buggy'. Discussion time. :flame:
[QUOTE=SmashedUpTV;22388784]html5 doesn't work on my iMac yet :( I heard they're implementing it though :D And also they screwed the idea of flash for the iPad, and replaced it with HTML 5 (or are going to) due to popular belief that Flash is 'slow' and 'buggy'. Discussion time. :flame:[/QUOTE] what? it should work, it works fine on my MacBook.
[QUOTE=Makol;22388794]what? it should work, it works fine on my MacBook.[/QUOTE] They are updating drivers, and basically I think you got the first software update. Mine just doesn that fucking annoying spinny 'loading' thing on YouTube because it doesn't support the player
[QUOTE=SmashedUpTV;22388802]They are updating drivers, and basically I think you got the first software update. Mine just doesn that fucking annoying spinny 'loading' thing on YouTube because it doesn't support the player[/QUOTE] It's got nothing to do with drivers and all to do with what internet browser you're using. Try Google Chrome if you want to waste your time watching videos in HTML5. Most videos aren't yet ready for WebM (what Chrome uses, and what Opera and Firefox will use). Otherwise try Safari (latest version) and you might have more luck with HTML5 videos. [url]http://www.youtube.com/html5[/url]
DogGunn Oh soz, guy who needs life and likes trolling. Why don't you go carry on sucking Google's dick while I get on with my life.
... I wasn't attacking you. I was merely pointing out that it had nothing to do with drivers and attacking Apple and Google for being so fucking stupid.
[QUOTE]Google Chrome (h.264 supported now, WebM enabled version available here)[/QUOTE] Source:[url]http://www.youtube.com/html5[/url] Chrome will support both h.264 and WebM. h.264 is already implemented and WebM is coming. DogGunn I do not know where you got that info about Chrome not supporting h.264, but Google was planning on supporting both from the start. EDIT: Chrome also supports Theora too.
HTML 5 is so much nicer on my macbook pro than flash. I just want firefox to get it soon.
I love flash it makes it possible to watch videos on youtube!
Under Mac OS my computer has problems playing 360p YouTube videos. Under Windows, however, I can run 1080p videos at once with no problems.
[QUOTE=killman;22395422]Source:[url]http://www.youtube.com/html5[/url] Chrome will support both h.264 and WebM. h.264 is already implemented and WebM is coming. DogGunn I do not know where you got that info about Chrome not supporting h.264, but Google was planning on supporting both from the start. EDIT: Chrome also supports Theora too.[/QUOTE] Ugh, dude, WebM is VP8, not H.264. Not only that, Google does not plan to support H.264 in the future because they recently bought out the VP8 codec and made it open source. You'll see in newer builds of Chrome, maybe not right now, that Chrome will remove support for non-VP8 standards, because they're really pushing hard now for VP8. [editline]02:00PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ezhik;22401225]Under Mac OS my computer has problems playing 360p YouTube videos. Under Windows, however, I can run 1080p videos at once with no problems.[/QUOTE] Try updating your OS X to 10.6.3, and updating Flash player. If that doesn't work, reset your computer into it's higher graphics potential mode, and then try.
DogGunn I referred to WebM and h.264 as separate things. [QUOTE]Not only that, Google does not plan to support H.264 in the future because they recently bought out the VP8 codec and made it open source.[/QUOTE] Source please? Without a source, I doubt this is true. I do agree that Google wants more people to use WebM, and is encouraging the codec, but I believe they would not ban other codecs from their browser. This is all speculation however, as I have no source for this.
[QUOTE=killman;22408569]DogGunn I referred to WebM and h.264 as separate things. [/quote] Ahh yeah, I just reread it and noticed the fullstop there :P[/QUOTE] As for the source, I'm looking for the article I read, but nevertheless, from a business standpoint, it would make sense to drop support for H.264 in the future if they want WebM to take off.
[QUOTE=CaptainX;22380037]I have recently downloaded Google Chrome for mac and turned on html5 mode on youtube and now my macbook stays nice and cool when watching videos. With Adobe Flash my mac was burning up. Just wondering if you guys have tried this out.[/QUOTE] Flash sucks but I tried the Youtube HTML 5 beta and I noticed some things like skipping to parts of videos was worse than with flash. Other parts like the quality, lower-bandwith usage, less CPU-usage, and slow/fast settings were very nice.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;22407723]Ugh, dude, WebM is VP8, not H.264. Not only that, Google does not plan to support H.264 in the future because they recently bought out the VP8 codec and made it open source. You'll see in newer builds of Chrome, maybe not right now, that Chrome will remove support for non-VP8 standards, because they're really pushing hard now for VP8. [editline]02:00PM[/editline] Try updating your OS X to 10.6.3, and updating Flash player. If that doesn't work, reset your computer into it's higher graphics potential mode, and then try.[/QUOTE] It's an aluminum MacBook, it only has 9400m. Everything was updated.
The thing is that flash is still needed in much sites like newgrounds and other flash hosting sites, if Jobs gets rid of Adobe/Macromedia Flash for Apple will destroy much company's like newgrounds, armour games, not doppler and the list goes on
[QUOTE=Ezhik;22411748]It's an aluminum MacBook, it only has 9400m. Everything was updated.[/QUOTE] have an Aluminum MacBook with the 9400m, it's fine.
HTML5 wasn't all that great for me on my MacBook, most videos didn't load, this was awhile back though. I should try this again later.
[QUOTE=rundevil;22384064]Jobs was right, flash sucks as a player.[/QUOTE] It's not the players problem, it's the OS's problem.
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