need help with building a pc

[mattygratz]

im not sure if this videocard will work with this motherboard

videocard:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1368440&sku=P450-6459[/url]

motherboard
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1336140&sku=B450-2432[/url]

i hope someone can help

edit: its a budget gaming pc under $650

[Implosive]

You can swing a way higher GPU than that for a budget of $650

[mattygratz]

ok, but how do i tell if a videocard and mother will work together

[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=SteelReal;34486994]You can swing a way higher GPU than that for a budget of $650[/QUOTE]

ok, but how do i tell if a videocard and mother will work together

edit: also how much higher can i go for the GPU

[Implosive]

I'd say get a Gtx 560 and to tell if it will work with your motherboard, just look at what it's interface is. For example, the Gtx 560 is a PCI Express 2.0 x16. Just look if the motherboard supports that connection.

[mattygratz]

[QUOTE=SteelReal;34487378]I'd say get a Gtx 560 and to tell if it will work with your motherboard, just look at what it's interface is. For example, the Gtx 560 is a PCI Express 2.0 x16. Just look if the motherboard supports that connection.[/QUOTE]

ok, thank so much

edit: i was looking at the video memoery aloud for the mother and its say 512MB and the videocard is 2GB video memory , and im guessing that means i need to find a new motherboard correct?

[Implosive]

Yeah dude here,
[url=http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7325818&sku=M452-6206]Mobo[/url]
[url=http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7191409&sku=P56-0560]GPU[/url]

Do you need an OS? Peripherals?

[mattygratz]

[QUOTE=SteelReal;34487520]Yeah dude here,
[url=http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7325818&sku=M452-6206]Mobo[/url]
[url=http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7191409&sku=P56-0560]GPU[/url]

Do you need an OS? Peripherals?[/QUOTE]

sorry asking so many dumb questions , but what do Os and peripherals mean lol

[Implosive]

[QUOTE=mattygratz;34487598]sorry asking so many dumb questions , but what do Os and peripherals mean lol[/QUOTE]

Nah it's fine. But I just have to ask. Are you really comfortable with building a pc? While most would consider doing this to be easy, you do need a certain amount of understanding. But, to answer your questions, an OS is short for Operating System, like windows or mac os. And a peripheral is something like a mouse, keyboard, monitor, etc.

[mattygratz]

i clicked into OS meaning operating system after i post the reply , also i have the peripherals already , and my friend is going to help me put it together , and yes i am im just verify my gut feelings is all

[Delrainn]

So what other components are you getting?

CPU
RAM
Power Supply
(others)

If you don't even know what an OS/peripherals are I doubt you know the correct things to choose haha

[Implosive]

Do you have a HDD, optical drive, anything that can be salvaged? If you have an old desktop, can you tell me what it was?

[mattygratz]

[QUOTE=SteelReal;34488481]Do you have a HDD, optical drive, anything that can be salvaged? If you have an old desktop, can you tell me what it was?[/QUOTE]

im upgrading from a laptop so no to salvaging

[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Delrainn;34488363]So what other components are you getting?

CPU
RAM
Power Supply
(others)

If you don't even know what an OS/peripherals are I doubt you know the correct things to choose haha[/QUOTE]

it was mostly a brain fart if you read the post after he told me what it was

CPU:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6620918&sku=A79-1450[/url]

RAM:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5688415&sku=P33-6110[/url]

power supply:
is included in case
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=719393&sku=A107-3040[/url]

HARD DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455518&sku=S350-1036[/url]

MOTHERBOARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=61486&sku=M452-6110[/url]

OPTICAL DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1387814&sku=O451-1030%20OEM[/url]

hope that helps
lol

[silverhawk79]

[QUOTE=mattygratz;34489110]im upgrading from a laptop so no to salvaging

[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]

it was mostly a brain fart if you read the post after he told me what it was

CPU:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6620918&sku=A79-1450[/url]

RAM:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5688415&sku=P33-6110[/url]

power supply:
is included in case
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=719393&sku=A107-3040[/url]

HARD DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455518&sku=S350-1036[/url]

MOTHERBOARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=61486&sku=M452-6110[/url]

OPTICAL DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1387814&sku=O451-1030%20OEM[/url]

hope that helps
lol[/QUOTE]
Actually with an adapter, you can save $80 and use your laptop's hard drive.
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2329310&CatId=3770[/url]
If you want, that is.

[spam_user001]

**insert CPU into socket and apply thermal grease properly! (pea sized dot in center then put on heatsink with little pressure!!!

[editline]31st January 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=silverhawk79;34490221]Actually with an adapter, you can save $80 and use your laptop's hard drive.
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2329310&CatId=3770[/url]
If you want, that is.[/QUOTE]

omg thats slow you dont use adapter for gaming get a 1TB hd

[Wingar]

[QUOTE=silverhawk79;34490221]Actually with an adapter, you can save $80 and use your laptop's hard drive.
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2329310&CatId=3770[/url]
If you want, that is.[/QUOTE]

That's an IDE connector...

[Delrainn]

Eh... a $45 processor is gonna be terrible.

Having 8gb of ram with a shitty processor isn't going to do you any good.

CPU is the most important component in a PC... don't cheap out on the CPU

[Coridan]

[QUOTE=Delrainn;34495873]CPU is the most important component in a PC... don't cheap out on the CPU[/QUOTE]

CPU is definitely important, but not the most important. CPU and GPU can create bottlenecks for each other if they aren't on par with each other, sure. However, what most people fail to realize is that the most important component in a computer is the PSU. It is responsible for delivering clean, stable and enough energy to every part of the computer. Most importantly it is responsible for SAFELY delivering that energy.

Skimp on a PSU = possibly destroying every part of your machine.

[QUOTE=mattygratz;34489110]im upgrading from a laptop so no to salvaging

[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]

it was mostly a brain fart if you read the post after he told me what it was

CPU:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6620918&sku=A79-1450[/url]

RAM:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5688415&sku=P33-6110[/url]

power supply:
is included in case
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=719393&sku=A107-3040[/url]

HARD DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455518&sku=S350-1036[/url]

MOTHERBOARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=61486&sku=M452-6110[/url]

OPTICAL DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1387814&sku=O451-1030%20OEM[/url]

hope that helps
lol[/QUOTE]

The CPU and motherboard are not compatible.

If you plan on buying a GTX 560 with that processor, you'd be wasting your money. You'd either have to buy a better CPU or downgrade the GPU.

If you seriously want a gaming PC, a single core processor isn't going to work out too well at all.

[silverhawk79]

[QUOTE=spam_user001;34490253]**insert CPU into socket and apply thermal grease properly! (pea sized dot in center then put on heatsink with little pressure!!!

[editline]31st January 2012[/editline]

omg thats slow you dont use adapter for gaming get a 1TB hd[/QUOTE]
Er, laptop hard drives run on the same RPMs as desktop hard drives (5400rpm or 7200rpm), so there's not exactly a [b]huge[/b] speed difference. It might be a bit slower because it's going from SATA to IDE (or vice-versa).

[Coridan]

[QUOTE=silverhawk79;34500929]Er, laptop hard drives run on the same RPMs as desktop hard drives (5400rpm or 7200rpm), so there's not exactly a [b]huge[/b] speed difference. It might be a bit slower because it's going from SATA to IDE (or vice-versa).[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he meant that the adapter slows it down... which it really does. Adapters such as a SATA<->IDE are used for transferring information, for instance, if you were upgrading your IDE drive to a SATA and you wanted some or all of the information off of it. They aren't really for a permanent solution.

[silverhawk79]

[QUOTE=Coridan;34501050]Yeah, he meant that the adapter slows it down... which it really does. Adapters such as a SATA<->IDE are used for transferring information, for instance, if you were upgrading your IDE drive to a SATA and you wanted some or all of the information off of it. They aren't really for a permanent solution.[/QUOTE]Oh. I guess I was a bit misinformed on how they were intended to be used. Well, at least I learned that before I tried it on my own build. :v:

[Coridan]

[QUOTE=silverhawk79;34501204]Oh. I guess I was a bit misinformed on how they were intended to be used. Well, at least I learned that before I tried it on my own build. :v:[/QUOTE]

You know what, I may be wrong.

[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]

Yep, I am.

[URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270236"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270236[/URL]

This I guess plugs into your motherboard. However, it only provides transfer speeds of [i]up to[/i] 1.5 Gbps. Pretty damn slow.

[silverhawk79]

[QUOTE=Coridan;34501423]You know what, I may be wrong.

[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]

Yep, I am.

[URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270236"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270236[/URL]

This I guess plugs into your motherboard. However, it only provides transfer speeds of [i]up to[/i] 1.5 Gbps. Pretty damn slow.[/QUOTE]

Well, slightly more expensive ones can go faster.
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812240012[/url]

[mattygratz]

i decided to restart from the ground up and heres the new build

CPU:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6524806&sku=I69-5700\[/url]

VIDEO CARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=852267&sku=P450-0214[/url]

MOTHERBOARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7325821&sku=M452-6208[/url]

RAM:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&sku=C13-5720[/url]

POWERSUPPLE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1147668&sku=U12-41528[/url]

HARDDRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455518&sku=S350-1036[/url]

OPTICAL DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4829307&sku=L12-1312%20OEM[/url]

i also uped my budget to 700

case is $40

Peripherals
$140

fans and os and other stuff are
$119

so i have 25 dollars to spare

[Angry Pineapple]

OP, I would put you a build together but I'm about to go to bed. If you dont have one by tomorrow I'll throw one together. I'll give you a quick guideline though.
But this really almost seems like a troll thread, you aren't really listening to much you've been told in previous posts (even though there isn't much), and you don't seem to be making an effort to learn. You really might want to look up resources on current gen hardware, and go from there.
Regarding the build above, scrap the GPU, CPU, MOBO, and hard drive as its a 2.5.
Look at either the intel 2500k or Phenom II x4 955 for the processor.
If you choose the 2500k, get a 1155 motherboard. For the Phenom, get an AM3+ board. I'd stay away from micro-ATX as well.
As for the GPU, your budget will probably only allow a 6850 or maybe a 6870, so look at those.
Get the desktop sized Spinpoint F3.
And probably get a 500w PSU, it may be a bit safer.

[Shadaez]

[QUOTE=mattygratz;34505400]i decided to restart from the ground up and heres the new build

CPU:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6524806&sku=I69-5700\[/url]

VIDEO CARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=852267&sku=P450-0214[/url]

MOTHERBOARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7325821&sku=M452-6208[/url]

RAM:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&sku=C13-5720[/url]

POWERSUPPLE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1147668&sku=U12-41528[/url]

HARDDRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455518&sku=S350-1036[/url]

OPTICAL DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4829307&sku=L12-1312%20OEM[/url]

i also uped my budget to 700

case is $40

Peripherals
$140

fans and os and other stuff are
$119

so i have 25 dollars to spare[/QUOTE]

seriously where is all the money going? that's awful

[mattygratz]

thank to the people that tried to help me but i think im just going to ask my friends to help me put one together

[Sled Dog]

I built a computer just a month ago, and here's one thing; be sure you get the right socket cpu. I thought my i5 would fit in the new board, but the board was an 1155 whereas the cpu was 1156.
Also, 700 dollars doesn't seem like enough for a really good gaming computer...

Although with me being retardedly wealthy, I went ahead and bought an i7. Got it on fry's website for $216.
Also, my gpu alone was $516. That 210 won't get far.

[silverhawk79]

[QUOTE=mattygratz;34505400]i decided to restart from the ground up and heres the new build

CPU:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6524806&sku=I69-5700\[/url]

VIDEO CARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=852267&sku=P450-0214[/url]

MOTHERBOARD:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7325821&sku=M452-6208[/url]

RAM:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&sku=C13-5720[/url]

POWERSUPPLE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1147668&sku=U12-41528[/url]

HARDDRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455518&sku=S350-1036[/url]

OPTICAL DRIVE:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4829307&sku=L12-1312%20OEM[/url]

i also uped my budget to 700

case is $40

Peripherals
$140

fans and os and other stuff are
$119

so i have 25 dollars to spare[/QUOTE]
Again, processor is incompatible with your motherboard. That processor is LGA775, motherboard accepts LGA1155.
You'll need to get this processor: [url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=567308&CatId=7226[/url]
Same amount of money, but it will fit your motherboard.