• US Court Orders Halt To Gay Military Ban
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[URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365 [/URL][URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"][QUOTE]The Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals lifted a previous ruling which allowed the government to continue enforcing the "don't ask, don't tell" law (DADT).[/QUOTE][/URL][QUOTE] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]President Barack Obama has repealed DADT, allowing gay military members to be open about their sexuality.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]But the law is still being enforced while the Pentagon drafts new rules.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]'Change of hardships'[/URL][URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]A three-judge panel at the court in San Francisco said DADT must be lifted because the Obama administration concluded in December 2010 that it was unconstitutional to treat gay Americans differently under the law.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]"The circumstances and balance of hardships have changed, and [the government] can no longer satisfy the demanding standard for issuance of a stay," the panel said. [/URL][URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]The panel noted that Congressional lawmakers repealed the ban on gay military personnel in December and that the Pentagon is in the process of writing new rules for the policy.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]The "don't ask, don't tell" law forbids gay soldiers from acknowledging their sexual orientation.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]The removal of the ban on gay members of the military came in response to a motion brought by Log Cabin Republicans, an organisation for gay Republican Party members.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]Last year, the group persuaded a lower court judge in California to declare the ban, which was formally adopted in 1993, unconstitutional.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]But the government appealed US District Judge Virginia Phillips' decision, and the Ninth Circuit Court agreed to keep the policy in place until it could consider the case.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]Officials at the Pentagon said on Wednesday they would comply with the court order and inform commanders in the field.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]Gay advocates said an appeal from the Pentagon on the ruling is unlikely, considering the Obama administration is committed to repealing the policy.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]"The ruling... removes all uncertainty," said Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director R Clarke Cooper.[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"]"American servicemembers are no longer under threat of discharge as the repeal implementation process goes forward," he added.[/URL][/QUOTE] :rock: [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14056365"] [/URL]
[b]fuck yes[/b]
About damn time.
Good news! [quote]But the law is still being enforced while the Pentagon drafts new rules.[/quote] Okay news?
Now that's great, I always hated the don't ask, don't tell shit.
This is good to hear.
Finally, I don't see why it ever should be an issue. Nobody cares what you like when you're fighting for your country and your friends' and own life.
[QUOTE]But the law is still being enforced while the Pentagon drafts new rules.[/QUOTE]Here's an idea morons. Use the same exact rules minus the entire don't ask don't tell part.
I think this will be kinda bad, flamboyant guys will have the SHIT knocked out of them by a couple of new guys at the bar. i've heard of it happening before at the base my bro was at. they went to a bar and a PFC was having the shit kicked out of him because he came out of the closet in the bar. Poor guy had 4 stitches on his right eyebrow.
[QUOTE=TheNuB;30957013]Now that's great, I always hated the don't ask, don't tell shit.[/QUOTE] I always kind of wished it would still be around so I would have an excuse to get out of the military.
[QUOTE=zombini;30957238]I think this will be kinda bad, flamboyant guys will have the SHIT knocked out of them by a couple of new guys at the bar. i've heard of it happening before at the base my bro was at. they went to a bar and a PFC was having the shit kicked out of him because he came out of the closet in the bar. Poor guy had 4 stitches on his right eyebrow.[/QUOTE] Fuck! How did we make it okay to be gay in public before we made assault illegal? Why weren't we thinking?! Oh wait
[QUOTE=zombini;30957238]I think this will be kinda bad, flamboyant guys will have the SHIT knocked out of them by a couple of new guys at the bar. i've heard of it happening before at the base my bro was at. they went to a bar and a PFC was having the shit kicked out of him because he came out of the closet in the bar. Poor guy had 4 stitches on his right eyebrow.[/QUOTE] one of the ways of changing people's attitudes is to change the law. if the law accepts them, eventually people will be forced to accept gay people if they don't already now because they have no other option.
[QUOTE=zombini;30957238]I think this will be kinda bad, flamboyant guys will have the SHIT knocked out of them by a couple of new guys at the bar. i've heard of it happening before at the base my bro was at. they went to a bar and a PFC was having the shit kicked out of him because he came out of the closet in the bar. Poor guy had 4 stitches on his right eyebrow.[/QUOTE] Well then society is at fault there.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;30957148]Here's an idea morons. Use the same exact rules minus the entire don't ask don't tell part.[/QUOTE] but what if the gay rapes a honest heterosexual soldier what then
[QUOTE=Lambeth;30957322]but what if the gay rapes a honest heterosexual soldier what then[/QUOTE] death sentence is the only way to cleanse
[QUOTE=Sanius;30957392]death sentence is the only way to cleanse[/QUOTE] god bless you christian warrior
[QUOTE=Lambeth;30957322]but what if the gay rapes a honest heterosexual soldier what then[/QUOTE] That already happens with [I]straight[/I] soldiers.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;30957781]That already happens with [I]straight[/I] soldiers.[/QUOTE] Well yeah. And female soldiers. Guess that takes away the power of the "gays are more promiscuous" meme.
If anyone is stupid enough to join the military, they should be allowed. [editline]6th July 2011[/editline] The US military at least.
you really swayed my opinion about the u.s. military by calling its members stupid you are a master debater
[QUOTE=DogGunn;30957301]one of the ways of changing people's attitudes is to change the law. if the law accepts them, eventually people will be forced to accept gay people if they don't already now because they have no other option.[/QUOTE] the government shouldn't [I]force[/I] anything
[QUOTE=Mon;30958399]the government shouldn't [I]force[/I] anything[/QUOTE] Fuck taxes am I right? And the police force, we dont need them. A fire department? I can defend my own home from fire. The courts. Nah.
[QUOTE=Nikota;30958462]Fuck taxes am I right? And the police force, we dont need them. A fire department? I can defend my own home from fire. The courts. Nah.[/QUOTE] at the very least it shouldn't be trying to force a way of thinking upon you
[QUOTE=Mon;30958537]at the very least it shouldn't be trying to force a way of thinking upon you[/QUOTE] That humans are humans and people shouldn't care?
Everything is a clickable link! :psyboom:
[QUOTE=Nikota;30958662]That humans are humans and people shouldn't care?[/QUOTE] are you making an argument for facism
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30958337]If anyone is stupid enough to join the military, they should be allowed. [editline]6th July 2011[/editline] The US military at least.[/QUOTE] Show some respect for god's sake.
[QUOTE=Mon;30958732]are you making an argument for facism[/QUOTE] Yes because saying that people shouldn't give a fuck about the traits of others is making an arguement for fascism.
[QUOTE=Nikota;30958849]Yes because saying that people shouldn't give a fuck about the traits of others is making an arguement for fascism.[/QUOTE] you just said that the government should force people to think the way you do basically
[QUOTE=Mon;30958853]you just said that the government should force people to think the way you do basically[/QUOTE] When did I ever say that? It started with you saying that the government shouldn't force anything. If the government doesn't force anything you would probably be dead from food poisoning. And the way people should think thing? I just have this idea that maybe, maybe it's ok for a person to live their life without some hick bashing them.
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