Need Advice on What Computer Parts to Get to Run TF2 - Hardware & Software

[B]Backstory[/B] Im a thirteen year old boy from the united states. I have been stuck with a ghetto laptop for almost 4 years now and im ready to change that. I run TF2 on the lowest setting possible with about 5 fps increasing programs and i still lag. Since im very passionate about TF2 this is holding me back [B]My Plan[/B] I have been saving for a while now and I now have around 600 to 700 dollars to spend on computer parts Now the Problems Are: 1.I don't know what kind of hardware I'm going to have to get in order to run 2. I have never built a computer. Is it easy? [B]So what do I need from you? To remedy problem 1, I can get sample specs from you, yes, you, the players of TF2, and then compile them together and determine what level of hardware I need - Simply take this template and fill in your PC specs and what settings you run TF2 at. Then enter a summary of what your graphics settings are and what FPS you get at average If you don't know or remember what your specs are for a specific field, just leave it blank. CPU: GPU: Motherboard: RAM: HDD: Cooling: PSU: Average FPS: TF2 graphics settings: [/B] [B]If you don't know or remember what your specs are for a specific field, just leave it blank.[/B] Im hoping we can work this all out and I can build a new computer. [B]Thank You :D[/B]

go to the store and buy a 600 dollar computer chances are it'll run

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;40079826]go to the store and buy a 600 dollar computer chances are it'll run[/QUOTE] ok so then this should work [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/CyberPowerPC---Gamer-Ultra-Desktop---8GB-Memory---1TB-Hard-Drive/6897999.p;tab=reviews?id=1218811215113&skuId=6897999[/url]

His point was that TF2 is stupidly easy to run, as far as specs go. Can't really say anything about specs myself, I haven't kept up with new stuff coming in, but you might want to check out this website: [URL]http://www.logicalincrements.com/[/URL]

Since its your first build, I wouldn't get anything too expensive in case you accidentally a fire. But since you don't have anything to start with, it's going to be kind of steep regardless. Something like this would be good: Case: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233112[/url] Motherboard: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130651[/url] CPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116890[/url] RAM: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231310[/url] PSU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153165[/url] GPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150598[/url] HDD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767[/url] DVD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289[/url] OS: <Your choice> This comes out to around $551 without shipping. If you have a preference for AMD, it would probably be a bit cheaper, but performance in the kind of things you'd run on it would be worse than this Intel build.

[QUOTE=FancyPan;40079930]ok so then this should work [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/CyberPowerPC---Gamer-Ultra-Desktop---8GB-Memory---1TB-Hard-Drive/6897999.p;tab=reviews?id=1218811215113&skuId=6897999[/url][/QUOTE] Oh wow, that GPU sucks.

[QUOTE=TheTailor25;40080574]Oh wow, that GPU sucks.[/QUOTE] All "gaming machines" from Worst Buy have hilariously awful GPUs.

[QUOTE=bohb;40080591]All "gaming machines" from Worst Buy have hilariously awful GPUs.[/QUOTE] Hey, better than most of the PC shops here If you want an actual GPU, you need an i7 rig with 16gb of ram and the flashiest, most expensive case ever

[QUOTE=FancyPan;40079930]ok so then this should work [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/CyberPowerPC---Gamer-Ultra-Desktop---8GB-Memory---1TB-Hard-Drive/6897999.p;tab=reviews?id=1218811215113&skuId=6897999[/url][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Desktop[/QUOTE] I can see them calling anything with a graphics card "The Ultimate Gaming Super Tower"

There's also a subforum for PC Building, where you might have more luck.

CPU: i5 3570k GPU: Ati HD4650, waiting for an upgrade Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK RAM: 8GB of DDR3 1333MHz HDD: 750GB Samsung Cooling: 2 fans, stock Intel cooler PSU: 500W no-name piece of shit. You see, my GPU is a piece of shit. Now, guess what, TF2 runs at 60FPS no problems. Well, not anymore, but it did run at 80+FPS when I first got it. The i3 and 7770GHz build is pretty good, go get it. And don't get a prebuilt. And there are tons of "How to put your PC together" on Youtube. Neweggs videos are pretty good.

[QUOTE=bohb;40080555]Since its your first build, I wouldn't get anything too expensive in case you accidentally a fire. But since you don't have anything to start with, it's going to be kind of steep regardless. Something like this would be good: Case: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233112[/url] Motherboard: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130651[/url] CPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116890[/url] RAM: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231310[/url] PSU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153165[/url] GPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150598[/url] HDD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767[/url] DVD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289[/url] OS: <Your choice> This comes out to around $551 without shipping. If you have a preference for AMD, it would probably be a bit cheaper, but performance in the kind of things you'd run on it would be worse than this Intel build.[/QUOTE] My build is somewhat worse than this and I get an average of about 125 fps in TF2.

My 5 year old q6600, 4GB RAM and GTS250 desktop can easily max out TF2 at 1680 x 1050 without breaking a sweat. You can run TF2 on a toaster

[QUOTE=spinpoint F3;40085397]My 5 year old q6600, 4GB RAM and GTS250 desktop can easily max out TF2 at 1680 x 1050 without breaking a sweat. You can run TF2 on a toaster[/QUOTE] Q6600, 6Gb RAM and a 6770 at 1920x1080 getting 125+ fps. It has to be a decent toaster. Side note: My old P4 630, 2 GB RAM and an ATI X1550 could run it on all low with a bearable framerate.

My old ATi x1600 ran source well enough, you can run it on a modern low-end $30 gpu.

Source is a heavily CPU bound game. You can have a pretty bad GPU paired with a decent CPU and still get good performance.

[QUOTE=Period;40088006]My old ATi x1600 ran source well enough, you can run it on a modern low-end $30 gpu.[/QUOTE] I used to run it one my old Radeon x800 , run very well. I think the x800 was one of the best cards for it's time.

Yes one of my friends upgraded from a 4670 to 7850 but as he's still on a E6600 and his FPS increase was between 10-20 fps.

[QUOTE=rhx123;40092398]Yes one of my friends upgraded from a 4670 to 7850 but as he's still on a E6600 and his FPS increase was between 10-20 fps.[/QUOTE]Well that's not right, I was getting higher FPS than that on a AMD 5200 X2 with a x800 card. What res is he running it at?

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;40092497]Well that's not right, I was getting higher FPS than that on a AMD 5200 X2 with a x800 card. What res is he running it at?[/QUOTE] On further clarification he was running at 1600x900 on low but now at 1920x1080 on high so that would explain the small gap. Also I think the board is only PCIE 1.0 compatible. [editline]30th March 2013[/editline] Also I said increase, not actual FPS.

Wingless keeps rating everybody dumb.

[QUOTE=Naaz;40093837]Wingless keeps rating everybody dumb.[/QUOTE] Uh, only those few people because their suggestions were horrible and completely unhelpful.

[QUOTE=rhx123;40093097]On further clarification he was running at 1600x900 on low but now at 1920x1080 on high so that would explain the small gap. Also I think the board is only PCIE 1.0 compatible. [editline]30th March 2013[/editline] Also I said increase, not actual FPS.[/QUOTE] Ah yeah, I used to run it at 1280x1024. A Geforce 9600 GT can do it at 1920x1080. [QUOTE=Naaz;40093837]Wingless keeps rating everybody dumb.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about it.