Petition going on in San Francisco to ban male circumcision - Polidicks

[quote]A group opposed to male circumcision said on Tuesday they have collected more than enough signatures to qualify a proposal to ban the practice in San Francisco as a ballot measure for November elections. But legal experts said that even if it were approved by a majority of the city's voters, such a measure would almost certainly face a legal challenge as an unconstitutional infringement on freedom of religion. Circumcision is a ritual obligation for infant Jewish boys, and is also a common rite among Muslims, who account for the largest share of circumcised men worldwide. The leading proponent of a ban, Lloyd Schofield, 59, acknowledged circumcision is widely socially accepted but he said it should still be outlawed. "It's excruciatingly painful and permanently damaging surgery that's forced on men when they're at their weakest and most vulnerable," he told Reuters. His group submitted about 12,000 signatures supporting his proposed ban, said Rachel Gosiengfiao, campaign services manager for the city's Department of Elections. The agency has 30 days to verify the petitions. He needs 7,200 valid signatures to qualify. Measure would make circumcision a misdemeanor The measure, which would only apply in San Francisco, would make it a misdemeanor crime to circumcise a boy before he is 18 years of age, regardless of the parents' religious beliefs. The maximum penalty would be a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. Schofield, who would not discuss his current occupation but previously worked for hotels in the San Francisco Bay area, has found allies for his cause in the anti-circumcision groups Intact America and the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers, according to his group's website. However, some experts said it was doubtful such a measure would withstand legal scrutiny if challenged. "The practice of Judaism requires a boy to be circumcised. I suspect the California courts would ultimately require the city to demonstrate the practice is harmful," said Jennifer Rothman, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. "I don't think there's sufficient medical evidence that it is, which would place the law's constitutionality in question." But Josh Davis, professor and associate dean for faculty scholarship at the University of San Francisco School of Law, said the U.S. Supreme Court has previously indicated in rulings that "religions don't get a free pass." "So if circumcision is the harm that's being targeted — because circumcision is perceived as causing harm, and not because it is a religious practice — it might well be a constitutionally valid law," he said. Schofield's proposal would make exceptions for boys who need a circumcision for health reasons. Nevertheless, Davis and Rothman both said voters would be likely to reject the measure at the polls. "I think that people are very likely to react to it as interfering with religious practices," Davis said.[/quote] [url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42784426/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/?GT1=43001]Ketchup[/url]

[quote]But legal experts said that even if it were approved by a majority of the city's voters, such a measure would almost certainly face a legal challenge as an unconstitutional infringement on freedom of religion.[/quote] Wait, so mutilating a baby is okay if it's for religious purposes?

[QUOTE=Omali;29484280]Wait, so mutilating a baby is okay if it's for religious purposes?[/QUOTE] They didn't chop his arm off did they?

Its funny because no matter what religion your in its doubtful you would let a doctor go in and screw around with your perfectly find dick, especially at the age of 18.

Doctor:"Okay, lets remove the foreskin." Baby::frog:

Im glad I got circumcised. I think uncircumcised dick looks absolutely horrifying.

[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29484390]Im glad I got circumcised. I think uncircumcised dick looks absolutely horrifying.[/QUOTE] You lose a lot of sensitivity if you get your dick circumcised.

I am absolutely content with my uncircumcised dick.

I'm glad I'm circumcised. Uncut dicks look like sea cucumbers and are so ashamed of themselves that they try to make it seem like it looks good. Every chick that I know prefers cut. Plus that flap of skin is one less thing to get cancer on.

[QUOTE=Earthen;29484399]You lose a lot of sensitivity if you get your dick circumcised.[/QUOTE] Dont really care. Guess that just means I last longer [editline]28th April 2011[/editline] INCOMING SHITSTORM

Circumcision shouldn't be done till the person is capable of making their own decision

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;29484406]I'm glad I'm circumcised. Uncut dicks look like sea cucumbers and are so ashamed of themselves that they try to make it seem like it looks good. Every chick that I know prefers cut. Plus that flap of skin is one less thing to get cancer on.[/QUOTE] Why not cut off all your limbs, that way there's even more things to not get cancer on.

[QUOTE=xxncxx;29484289]They didn't chop his arm off did they?[/QUOTE] NO, that's why you got those boxes. But i think its fair to say "NO you can't chop off your kid's foreskin" because what if you don't want the bare tip of your penis brushing against everything? That shit's sensitive man. I, for one, have my foreskin (lol), and really it's damn comfortable. The only bummer is that it's an extra area to clean, but fuck, i'd find it worse if i was never comfortable because a). my glans penis was constantly being prickled/irritated by literally EVERY movement i made, and b). always getting random boners from every movement the penile felt that felt good. Also, i'd be pissed off that my over-sensitive cock was because of some religious ritual that MAYBE i didn't want to be a part of.

[QUOTE=Smasher 006;29484428]Why not cut off all your limbs, that way there's even more things to not get cancer on.[/QUOTE] Because that would look gross and would probably kill you from the blood loss [editline]28th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=lolnubs;29484430]NO, that's why you got those boxes. But i think its fair to say "NO you can't chop off your kid's foreskin" because what if you don't want the bare tip of your penis brushing against everything? That shit's sensitive man. I, for one, have my foreskin (lol), and really it's damn comfortable. The only bummer is that it's an extra area to clean, but fuck, i'd find it worse if i was never comfortable because a). my glans penis was constantly being prickled/irritated by literally EVERY movement i made, and b). always getting random boners from every movement the penile felt that felt good. Also, i'd be pissed off that my over-sensitive cock was because of some religious ritual that MAYBE i didn't want to be a part of.[/QUOTE] Thats not how it feels. At all.

[QUOTE=Earthen;29484399]You lose a lot of sensitivity if you get your dick circumcised.[/QUOTE] But all the health benefits from it are worth it.

Civilization has already banned the mutilation of female genitalia, why is mutilation fine when it's a male in question? Good for them.

why? sure you shouldn't do it on babies who have no say on the matter, but banning it from adults who want to do it is just as stupid.

[QUOTE=Omali;29484280]Wait, so mutilating a baby is okay if it's for religious purposes?[/QUOTE] Over exaggeration IMO.

[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29484441]Thats not how it feels. At all.[/QUOTE] Probably because you're so used to it, and lost the sensitivity, that it feels like nothing. Shave your pubes, wait for the prickly growth, THEN say it's not sensitive...

[QUOTE=Zet;29484478]But all the health benefits from it are worth it.[/QUOTE]Like what? If you clean your dick like you're supposed to, there's no issue of cleanliness or health at all.

[QUOTE=Zet;29484478]But all the health benefits from it are worth it.[/QUOTE] Not if you live in a first world country with like, running water, and have the ability to fucking clean yourself.

[QUOTE=Zet;29484478]But all the health benefits from it are worth it.[/QUOTE] Learn to wash your dick

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;29484406]I'm glad I'm circumcised. Uncut dicks look like sea cucumbers and are so ashamed of themselves that they try to make it seem like it looks good. Every chick that I know prefers cut.[/QUOTE] Everything looks the same when hard.

[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29484414]Dont really care. Guess that just means I last longer [editline]28th April 2011[/editline] INCOMING SHITSTORM[/QUOTE] With that virgin dick of yours? Doubt it.

[QUOTE=lolnubs;29484532]Probably because you're so used to it, and lost the sensitivity, that it feels like nothing. Shave your pubes, wait for the prickly growth, THEN say it's not sensitive...[/QUOTE] I did. Its not sensitive

[QUOTE=lolnubs;29484430]NO, that's why you got those boxes. But i think its fair to say "NO you can't chop off your kid's foreskin" because what if you don't want the bare tip of your penis brushing against everything? That shit's sensitive man. I, for one, have my foreskin (lol), and really it's damn comfortable. The only bummer is that it's an extra area to clean, but fuck, i'd find it worse if i was never comfortable because a). my glans penis was constantly being prickled/irritated by literally EVERY movement i made, and b). always getting random boners from every movement the penile felt that felt good. Also, i'd be pissed off that my over-sensitive cock was because of some religious ritual that MAYBE i didn't want to be a part of.[/QUOTE] Uh, it does not feel like that.

[QUOTE=Earthen;29484559]With that virgin dick of yours? Doubt it.[/QUOTE] Im not a virgin, but great ad hominem there

[QUOTE=Zet;29484478]But all the health benefits from it are worth it.[/QUOTE] there are no real health benefits at all and dont say dick cheese because ANY person who washes their dick, foreskin or no, won't get it. you would only get dick cheese if you lack even the most basic sense of hygiene

I'm happy with being circumsized, but I would have liked to have had a choice. Everybody should have a choice, as it is not the parent's decision.

[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29484563]I did. Its not sensitive[/QUOTE] Because the penis loses its sensitivity too when the foreskin's cut. And you keep saying you're happy and content with it because you've never know how it is to have a foreskin in the first place. I'm not mutilated and feel bad for everyone who is and those who believe they're actually better off without it. [editline]28th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zet;29484478]But all the health benefits from it are worth it.[/QUOTE] There are 0 health benefits to cutting off a piece of skin