Married drama teacher, 35, accused of having sex with her 15-year-old student pleads not guilty to c - Polidicks

[T]https://i.imgur.com/vM2QqDO.jpg[/T] [QUOTE]A married high school teacher from Washington state accused of having sex with her 15-year-old student pleaded not guilty today to child rape charges. Stephanie McCrea, 35, a drama and English teacher at Evergreen High School in Vancouver, was arrested in late January on suspicion of carrying on a sexual relationship with a teenage boy. On Wednesday, Miss McCrea arrived at Clark County Superior Court dressed in all black, with her attorney by her side, and entered not guilty pleas to four counts of third-degree child rape, four counts of first-degree sexual misconduct and tampering with a witness.[/QUOTE] Read more [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2949927/Married-drama-teacher-35-accused-having-sex-15-year-old-student-pleads-not-guilty-child-rape.html"]here[/URL]. And the two alternative sources [URL="http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/feb/11/evergreen-teacher-accused-child-rape-pleads-not-gu/"]here[/URL], and [URL="http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/crime/usa-drama-teacher-35-charged-with-having-sex-with-student-15/article/425859"]here[/URL].

Mmm my home town finally made the news.

Yeah no sorry you're still a rapist

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47125225]Yeah no sorry you're still a rapist[/QUOTE] Assuming it was consensual, I don't see why she would be a rapist.

I suppose it could be statutory rape, but according to the wiki I just read it's not widely recognized by a lot of courts.

[QUOTE=joost1120;47125270]Assuming it was consensual, I don't see why she would be a rapist.[/QUOTE] It's statutory rape regardless of consent if they are under the legal age.

[QUOTE=joost1120;47125270]Assuming it was consensual, I don't see why she would be a rapist.[/QUOTE] Regardless of the law, she was in a position of power and teens below 18 aren't usually capable of consenting properly.

[QUOTE=joost1120;47125270]Assuming it was consensual, I don't see why she would be a rapist.[/QUOTE] According to the article she pressured him into having sex with her and threatened him that she'd kill herself if he'd ever complain Sounds like rape to me

[QUOTE=joost1120;47125270]Assuming it was consensual, I don't see why she would be a rapist.[/QUOTE] The boy reported it so it wasn't consensual anyways

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47125286]According to the article she pressured him into having sex with her and threatened him that she'd kill herself if he'd ever complain Sounds like rape to me[/QUOTE] There's cases when it's hella gray but it sounds like this particular lady is a pretty clear cut rapist. [editline]12th February 2015[/editline] Like, you can argue about where and what with ages and thresholds and shit but [quote]Under Washington state law, the age that someone can legally give sexual consent is 16, but teachers are prohibited from any sexually exploitative acts with a student of any age, including advances, exposure and intercourse.[/quote] is pretty clear. If you want to fiddlediddle somebody wait till they are able to give you legal consent. If you happen to be their teacher then wait until you aren't. [editline]12th February 2015[/editline] It's not that hard to [I]not have sex with somebody[/I]. I would dare to say I am quite an expert.

Woman or Men, rape is rape. And besides that; 15 and 35, the age... Doesn't that make her by law a pedophile?

[QUOTE=Muskof;47125284]Regardless of the law, she was in a position of power and teens below 18 aren't usually capable of consenting properly.[/QUOTE] Iirc, the age of consent is 16 in Washington, but she was in a position of power so the point is moot anyways. [editline]12th February 2015[/editline] Clocks

oh my god what is it with all these teacher student rapes recently

[QUOTE=Siemz;47125382]And besides that; 15 and 35, the age... Doesn't that make her by law a pedophile?[/QUOTE] How many 15 year olds do you know that haven't hit puberty yet? [editline]a[/editline] To the uninformed people who are rating this dumb, pedophilia is the attraction to [I]prepubescent[/I] children, typically 11 years and younger.

I urge you guys to watch this video. A 2 minute video of guy talking about how she was raped when he was young. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikd0ZYQoDko[/media]

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47125225]Yeah no sorry you're still a rapist[/QUOTE] Assuming she's guilty. Which, if I'm honest, does seem to be what the evidence is pointing towards, but let's at least entertain the notion that she could be innocent.

[QUOTE=Rufia;47125692]Assuming she's guilty. Which, if I'm honest, does seem to be what the evidence is pointing towards, but let's at least entertain the notion that she could be innocent.[/QUOTE] The notion that someone is innocent isn't really that important when proof points toward the fact that they're not

[QUOTE=Muskof;47125284]Regardless of the law, she was in a position of power and teens below 18 aren't usually capable of consenting properly.[/QUOTE] And what exactly does happen when you turn 18 that makes you able to consent properly? You do realise it's a completely arbitrary number that we just made up? I know 15 year old's more intelligent and mature than some 20 year old's I know. Things like this have to be judged on case by case basis. Not saying this case isn't fucked up. She clearly manipulated and tried to intimidate him into having sex, it's not normal and definitely not consensual.

[QUOTE=Buck.;47125794]And what exactly does happen when you turn 18 that makes you able to consent properly? You do realise it's a completely arbitrary number that we just made up? I know 15 year old's more intelligent and mature than some 20 year old's I know. Things like this have to be judged on case by case basis. Not saying this case isn't fucked up. She clearly manipulated and tried to intimidate him into having sex, it's not normal and definitely not consensual.[/QUOTE] i wouldn't say it's COMPLETELY arbitrary, there's just no way to gauge people's maturity and 18 is a good number for law-making purposes

The law is what you have to worry about, not whether the age of consent is arbitrary or not. If you think 18 is arbitrary, that's fine but that's just your opinion, it won't carry any weight in court. She was in a position of authority and she's too old to play that angle where they are so close in age it doesn't seem so bad(ie 15/19), those are the two big things that are going to hurt her case. Also, some of the crimes apparently took place on school grounds, that's not helping things. Since she's a woman, the judge might go easy on her, male defendants get in cases like this get treated far worse. That's the only upside I see for her.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47127315]i wouldn't say it's COMPLETELY arbitrary, there's just no way to gauge people's maturity and 18 is a good number for law-making purposes[/QUOTE] I was just pointing out how reaching a certain age does not automatically let you make better decisions. It even differs from country to country. I'm not trying to defend her actions or anything. Although seeing quite a few of stories like this makes me wonder just how often this happens out there, and how many men don't care that it happened or even enjoyed it.

wow didn't think my high school i went to would make national news

[QUOTE=Buck.;47127682]I was just pointing out how reaching a certain age does not automatically let you make better decisions.[/QUOTE] A certain age doesn't make you automatically educated enough to vote or fit enough for military service or able to handle alcohol responsibly. They're all arbitrary numbers precisely because the law can't deal with a case-by-case basis. I can't imagine anyone would seriously suggest not having an actual age of consent and leaving it up to the courts on a case-by-case basis. You can talk about kids being mature for their age, but who wants to be the guy on trial for statutory rape because they had sex with an 18-year-old who's remarkably immature and clueless? It's in the public's best interest for people to know whether or not they're about to commit a crime.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47125286]According to the article she pressured him into having sex with her and [b]threatened him that she'd kill herself if he'd ever complain[/b] [/QUOTE] Drama teachers :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Mr.Brown;47125500]oh my god what is it with all these teacher student rapes recently[/QUOTE] recently? you mean since the dawn of time?