UK soldiers confess to racial abuse and asking Afghan boy to 'touch my special place' - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Two British soldiers have admitted abusing Afghan civilians, including a child, at a court martial hearing in Germany. One racially abused an Afghan man, while the other pleaded guilty to indecent behavior towards a child. At the trial, which happened in Sennelager, northwest Germany, one of the two guilty soldiers – identified as ‘Soldier X’ – said that in December 2011 he pulled an Afghan boy’s hand towards his crotch and instructed him to ‘touch my special place.’ [/QUOTE] Source: [URL]http://rt.com/news/british-soldier-afghan-abuse-209/[/URL]

Considering at least 100,000 Uk soldiers have gone through Afghanistan, 1 in 50k being like this is much better than the public average

[QUOTE=download;40898171]Considering at least 100,000 Uk soldiers have gone through Afghanistan, 1 in 50k being like this is much better than the public average[/QUOTE] Are you suggesting that British Soldiers are less likely to commit abuses than the public?

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40898191]Are you suggesting that British Soldiers are less likely to commit abuses than the public?[/QUOTE] I don't have any data to back it up, but I would have to say most likely. They go through psychological screening. I don't have anything to back it up but I'd guess most people like rapists are socially dysfunctional and stick out like a sore thumb during screening

[QUOTE=download;40898217]I don't have any data to back it up, but I would have to say most likely. They go through psychological screening. I don't have anything to back it up but I'd guess most people like rapists are socially dysfunctional and stick out like a sore thumb during screening[/QUOTE] I am basing this off of the US Army, so there might be a difference, but screening is a joke. You can very easily lie your ass off when getting "the questionnaire." They can easily blend in with the rank and file, and that is where the danger is.

[QUOTE=SKEEA;40898666]I am basing this off of the US Army, so there might be a difference, but screening is a joke. You can very easily lie your ass off when getting "the questionnaire." They can easily blend in with the rank and file, and that is where the danger is.[/QUOTE] Was about to say this. Unless you're applying for the CIA, NSA or FBI, expect to pass any "psychological screening" with ease.

Are you a rapist Y/N? Anyway I thought the Army had a big problem with rape inside the institution.

[QUOTE=SKEEA;40898666]I am basing this off of the US Army, so there might be a difference, but screening is a joke. You can very easily lie your ass off when getting "the questionnaire." They can easily blend in with the rank and file, and that is where the danger is.[/QUOTE] Some screen, no matter how terrible it is, is better than none [editline]4th June 2013[/editline] I would also consider basic training to be a sort of screen too.

I know the U.S. trained Afghan police have a terrible track record when it comes to molesting children. That is, pretty much every single one of their bases have boys no more than 10-11 years old as servants, also sexually, known as [I]'chai boys'[/I].

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40898726]Are you a rapist Y/N? Anyway I thought the Army had a big problem with rape inside the institution.[/QUOTE] Not really. However, sexual harassment has been under scrutiny of late, but the problem is that with the normal amount of "grabass" that goes on in organizations such as these, it is difficult to see the line. Mostly we don't ever mess around with female military personnel because giving good games and stuff like that to them is an instant SHARP complaint. It is the creepy people that can't keep their hands to themselves or their dick in their pants that ruin it for the overall image. There are a lot of protections for a victim of sexual harassment, or assault in the modern military, and complaints and reports are taken very seriously. We also have mandatory quarterly SHARP training, and due to recent events with an E-7 on my post, the entire division is getting a brief at once by the division commander. Suffice to say that sexual harassment and assault is not taken lightly.

[QUOTE=download;40898729]Some screen, no matter how terrible it is, is better than none [editline]4th June 2013[/editline] I would also consider basic training to be a sort of screen too.[/QUOTE] What correlation does hidden sexual perversion have with strenuous physical exercise?

Really they're just trying to get the people who will be blindly obedient and refuse to question orders to do the dirty work of the politicians at the top, that's the priority. Everything else including sexual orientation and mental conditions is secondary to that.

[Quote]His defense lawyer said that his godfather is black and his best friend is Filipino. [/Quote] Haha the standard "I am not racist my best friend is *insert a different ethnicity/race than self here*" excuse.

I'm pretty sure the ANA have done far worse in terms of sexual abuse then ISAF Forces have committed.

[QUOTE=Flash;40899769]I'm pretty sure the ANA have done far worse in terms of sexual abuse then ISAF Forces have committed.[/QUOTE] This isn't about the ANA, and no one said otherwise so it's pretty weird for you to randomly point that out unless your intentions were to make this seem less severe.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40898726]Are you a rapist Y/N? Anyway I thought the Army had a big problem with rape inside the institution.[/quote] We had problems with sexual harassment, but it was mostly with the egotistical douches and the rookies. Rape was rare, almost unheard of, to be honest.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40898726]Are you a rapist Y/N? Anyway I thought the Army had a big problem with rape inside the institution.[/QUOTE] Um... why'd you think that?

[QUOTE=Swamplord;40899712]Haha the standard "I am not racist my best friend is *insert a different ethnicity/race than self here*" excuse.[/QUOTE] Having been in a three year relationship (past) with a black girl who came from Colombia; I confidently describe myself as not racist. But I still do think that the "I'm not racist, I have black friends"-defense does most generally come off as racist.

[QUOTE=Matriax;40900653]Um... why'd you think that?[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military[/url] [quote]According to a 2011 Newsweek report, women are more likely to be assaulted by a fellow soldier than killed in combat. The Department of Defense estimates there are about 19,000 sexual assaults in the military per year but according to the latest Pentagon statistics (2013), only 1,108 troops filed for an investigation during the most recent yearly reporting period and during that period, only 575 cases were processed. Of the cases processed, only 96 went to court-martial.[1] Another investigation found that only one in five females and one in 15 males in the United States Air Force would report having been sexually assaulted by service members.[2][/quote] [editline]4th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;40903187]Having been in a three year relationship (past) with a black girl who came from Colombia; I confidently describe myself as not racist. But I still do think that the "I'm not racist, I have black friends"-defense does most generally come off as racist.[/QUOTE] You can still have relationships / friendships with other people and think less of them.

[QUOTE=SKEEA;40898991]Not really. However, sexual harassment has been under scrutiny of late, but the problem is that with the normal amount of "grabass" that goes on in organizations such as these, it is difficult to see the line. Mostly we don't ever mess around with female military personnel because giving good games and stuff like that to them is an instant SHARP complaint. It is the creepy people that can't keep their hands to themselves or their dick in their pants that ruin it for the overall image. There are a lot of protections for a victim of sexual harassment, or assault in the modern military, and complaints and reports are taken very seriously. We also have mandatory quarterly SHARP training, and due to recent events with an E-7 on my post, the entire division is getting a brief at once by the division commander. [B]Suffice to say that sexual harassment and assault is not taken lightly.[/B][/QUOTE] yes it is

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40903221][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military[/url] [/QUOTE] Hmm, I am unable to see in this page where the British Armed Forces are mentioned, which is what the original article is about, but I guess I should give you the benefit of the doubt on this one? [QUOTE=BrainDeath;40903328]yes it is[/QUOTE] Yeah do you have an evidence at all to back up this assertion? Do you have any experience of the US Army's sexual harassment policies with which to deny Skeea's comments? I assume you have some justification for your statement? Maybe you're a part of the US or British armed forces?

[QUOTE=Matriax;40904234]Yeah do you have an evidence at all to back up this assertion? Do you have any experience of the US Army's sexual harassment policies with which to deny Skeea's comments? I assume you have some justification for your statement? Maybe you're a part of the US or British armed forces?[/QUOTE] I dunno mang i think my link was a pretty fucking big bit of evidence.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40904266]I dunno mang i think my link was a pretty fucking big bit of evidence.[/QUOTE] Yeah reading that bit on "Defense Task Force on Sexual Harassment and Violence at the Military Service Academies report" makes me think the military think that sexual harassment is a joke and can't take it seriously at all. That would explain why a large report into it was commissioned I expect. The General staff probably think its a massive joke. Sexual harassment occurring, and it being "taken lightly" are two totally different things.

[QUOTE=Matriax;40904385]Yeah reading that bit on "Defense Task Force on Sexual Harassment and Violence at the Military Service Academies report" makes me think the military think that sexual harassment is a joke and can't take it seriously at all. That would explain why a large report into it was commissioned I expect. The General staff probably think its a massive joke. Sexual harassment occurring, and it being "taken lightly" are two totally different things.[/QUOTE] "At both Academies available records from the past ten years reflect an extended period where alleged offenders were not consistently or effectively held accountable through the criminal justice system."

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40903221][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military[/url] [quote]According to a 2011 Newsweek report, women are more likely to be assaulted by a fellow soldier than killed in combat.[/quote][/QUOTE] Keep in mind we don't let woman in combat, they're mostly limited to auxiliary and support roles, so the number of woman killed in combat per soldier (ex: 1000 females vs 1000 males) would be much lower than the average. Not to say I'm arguing against you, rape is a big problem, even male-on-male. But comparing female rapes to female combat deaths is a bit skewed.

[QUOTE=SKEEA;40898991]Not really. However, sexual harassment has been under scrutiny of late, but the problem is that with [b]the normal amount of "grabass" that goes on in organizations such as these, it is difficult to see the line. Mostly we don't ever mess around with female military personnel because giving good games and stuff like that to them is an instant SHARP complaint. It is the creepy people that can't keep their hands to themselves or their dick in their pants that ruin it for the overall image.[/b] There are a lot of protections for a victim of sexual harassment, or assault in the modern military, and complaints and reports are taken very seriously. We also have mandatory quarterly SHARP training, and due to recent events with an E-7 on my post, the entire division is getting a brief at once by the division commander. Suffice to say that sexual harassment and assault is not taken lightly.[/QUOTE] Is this post a thinly veiled complaint that you aren't allowed to harass women anymore because actual rapists ruined it for you?

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40904809]Keep in mind we don't let woman in combat, they're mostly limited to auxiliary and support roles, so the number of woman killed in combat per soldier (ex: 1000 females vs 1000 males) would be much lower than the average. Not to say I'm arguing against you, rape is a big problem, even male-on-male. But comparing female rapes to female combat deaths is a bit skewed.[/QUOTE] Yes I know its an odd comparison. Its like saying more female Chefs get raped while working than have burnt souffle, but its there to illustrate the point that female members in the armed forces are far more endangered by their own side than the enemy. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8005198.stm[/url]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40904908]Is this post a thinly veiled complaint that you aren't allowed to harass women anymore because actual rapists ruined it for you?[/QUOTE] It's the fact he cant even act natural around female personnel for fear of a harassment charge and has to spend 2 hours every other week contemplating suicide by ballpoint at a harassment briefing. It's annoying that you attempt to attack him for something he didn't do.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40904908]Is this post a thinly veiled complaint that you aren't allowed to harass women anymore because actual rapists ruined it for you?[/QUOTE] The fuck? Hell no! How you would take that away from what I said is beyond me.

[QUOTE=snapshot32;40905034]It's the fact he cant even act natural around female personnel for fear of a harassment charge and has to spend 2 hours every other week contemplating suicide by ballpoint at a harassment briefing. It's annoying that you attempt to attack him for something he didn't do.[/QUOTE] Am I missing some context here?