8th grader suspended over t-shirt returns to school - Polidicks

[quote]jared Marcum, the eighth grade Logan, West Virginia student who was suspended and arrested after refusing to change his NRA t-shirt at school, was met by several supporters Monday morning outside of Logan Middle School. Jared returned to class, fresh off of suspension, wearing the same exact shirt that initiated the "t-shirt control" controversy in the first place.[/quote] [url]http://www.wtrf.com/story/22041738/eighth-grader-suspended-over-t-shirt-returns-to-school-wv-logan-middle-school-jared-marcum[/url] [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] 2 days late but didn't see about it anywhere else and had previously saw the story about him getting kicked out of school and arrested.

Let's see how this turns out.

Wear the very shirt that got you kicked out in the first place ~[I]stick it to the man[/I]~

Kinda stupid when it's about the gun on the shirt and less about it says NRA.

This isn't helping the debate. Just take the goddamned shirt off.

[QUOTE=Persecution;40400753]This isn't helping the debate. Just take the goddamned shirt off.[/QUOTE] It's a goddamned shirt, man. A t-shirt with a print is causing no harm so I don't blame him for being so rebellious about it.

[QUOTE=PikachuX1000;40400768]It's a goddamned shirt, man. A t-shirt with a print is causing no harm so I don't blame him for being so rebellious about it.[/QUOTE] Well I mean, I'm all for gun freedums and all that flibbity jibbity, but if you're in a school, you're bound by that schools dress code; I think they make you sign a contract binding you to it's rules. So if they say "You can't wear that shirt" then you can't wear that shirt. For some reason I imagine him hopping up on his desk and screaming MUH FREEDOMS

[QUOTE=Persecution;40400753]This isn't helping the debate. Just take the goddamned shirt off.[/QUOTE] Free speech

[QUOTE=Persecution;40400753]This isn't helping the debate. Just take the goddamned shirt off.[/QUOTE] he shouldn't have to [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District[/url]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40400831]he shouldn't have to [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District[/url][/QUOTE] it's his choice to go to school, either he obeys the school policy or doesn't go, simple as that

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;40400822]Free speech[/QUOTE] Private property is a bitch. You don't get that right.

[QUOTE=Ylsid;40400861]it's his choice to go to school, either he obeys the school policy or doesn't go, simple as that[/QUOTE] no it's not education is compulsory and a right in the united states. education is not a privilege you can strip because the person is saying politically inconvenient shit. [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=areolop;40400863]Private property is a bitch. You don't get that right.[/QUOTE] is that school a private school?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40400871] is that school a private school?[/QUOTE] public schools are still private property. Which is why you have to keep off at certain times

[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;40400905]public schools are still private property. Which is why you have to keep off at certain times[/QUOTE] they don't follow the same rules as private property when school is in session. [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] also by that logic parks are also private property and subject to free speech restrictions as well. is that really logical at all?

[QUOTE=Persecution;40400791]Well I mean, I'm all for gun freedums and all that flibbity jibbity, but if you're in a school, you're bound by that schools dress code; I think they make you sign a contract binding you to it's rules. So if they say "You can't wear that shirt" then you can't wear that shirt. For some reason I imagine him hopping up on his desk and screaming MUH FREEDOMS[/QUOTE] There's a fine line in what should be banned from a dress code. It has to have a logical reason. Something with profanity or vulgar design are both good reasons to not be worn. But something like a logo or a design to express an opinion is fair game. It's not like it was a shirt with a gun that said kill everyone.

[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;40400905]public schools are still private property. Which is why you have to keep off at certain times[/QUOTE] Absolutely not. Public and private schools are fucking [I]lightyears[/I] away in terms of what rights you get. Public schools are funded by government grants, they have to comply with normal constitutional and discriminatory standards. The concept is called in loco parentis.

his haircut is more offensive than the shirt.

Fucking hypocrites. Ever seen a Invisible Children shirt they sell to nearly every school? When I was in high school, we would have a assembly like every year to buy one of these shirts, [img]http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/223649/invisible-children-fundraising-t-shirt-profile.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Raidyr;40401429]his haircut is more offensive than the shirt.[/QUOTE] No wonder he wears that shirt, he probably can't see what he picks because he's blinded by the hair in his eyes

Pfft, I was forced to take off my shirt, and turn it inside out once in High School, or also face suspension It was this on a shirt shirt [img]http://stickerheads.com/images/WHOISGIRL09944.jpg[/img] Public schools in the USA are absolutely ridiculous. My High School also no longer teaches american history before the Civil War. I was one of the last classes to actually learn about the Revolutionary War in a Junior American History class in that High School In 2004. Go me And spanish students who couldn't speak English got to take Spanish class and it counted as their FOREIGN LANGUAGE CREDIT

[QUOTE=PikachuX1000;40400768]It's a goddamned shirt, man. A t-shirt with a print is causing no harm so I don't blame him for being so rebellious about it.[/QUOTE] Was I the only one who went to schools that had kids change/turn shirts inside out if they didn't like what was on them? I assumed it was a normal thing, at least in the U.S.

[QUOTE=Frisk;40407333]Was I the only one who went to schools that had kids change/turn shirts inside out if they didn't like what was on them? I assumed it was a normal thing, at least in the U.S.[/QUOTE] They use to do that at my old school here in Canada. Or make or the students change into their P.E clothes.

People need to stop being so soft-skinned

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40400917]they don't follow the same rules as private property when school is in session. [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] also by that logic parks are also private property and subject to free speech restrictions as well. is that really logical at all?[/QUOTE] If its a public school, you have to accept their terms regarding clothing. Most of these policies include items regarding shirts/pants/hats/ etc that may be offensive to others. If you dont like the rules, you can go open-enroll to another school. You park in the schools lot? They have consent to search. You put your stuff in a school locker? They have consent to search.

[img_thumb]http://puu.sh/2GlAh.png[/img_thumb] I got shit for this in school. Only wore it once. I was like... I think 13 at the time, so I didn't know any better. I bargained my way out of punishment if I never wore it again. Little babbies.

[QUOTE=areolop;40408331]If its a public school, you have to accept their terms regarding clothing. Most of these policies include items regarding shirts/pants/hats/ etc that may be offensive to others. If you dont like the rules, you can go open-enroll to another school. You park in the schools lot? They have consent to search. You put your stuff in a school locker? They have consent to search.[/QUOTE] nope [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District[/url] [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safford_Unified_School_District_v._Redding[/url] [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] believe it or not you still have rights at school.

Tinker: [quote]The First Amendment, as applied through the Fourteenth, did not permit a public school to punish a student for wearing a black armband as an anti-war protest, absent any evidence that the rule was necessary to avoid substantial interference with school discipline or the rights of others. Eighth Circuit reversed and remanded.[/quote] The school had a specific policy against wearing armbands of any type. This school does not have a specific policy against wearing a shirt. That second one: [quote] strip search of a middle schooler violated the Fourth Amendment where the school lacked reasons to suspect either that the drugs (Ibuprofen) presented a danger[/quote] Stopped reading after that. [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] Look at this one [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_v._T._L._O[/url].

Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_v._T._L._O[/url]. You have to include the " . " [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_v._T._L._O.] CLick this[/url]

"According to school officials, they do require a "reasonable suspicion" to perform a search." the student was already engaged in behavior that allowed for a search.