New discovery may allow scientists to make fuel from CO2 in the atmosphere - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Now, researchers at the University of Georgia have found a way to transform the carbon dioxide trapped in the atmosphere into useful industrial products. Their discovery may soon lead to the creation of biofuels made directly from the carbon dioxide in the air that is responsible for trapping the sun's rays and raising global temperatures. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Basically, what we have done is create a microorganism that does with carbon dioxide exactly what plants do—absorb it and generate something useful [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]What this discovery means is that we can remove plants as the middleman[/QUOTE] [url]http://phys.org/news/2013-03-discovery-scientists-fuel-co2-atmosphere.html[/url] EDIT: How is this late? It was published yesterday by my time, nobody seems to have created a thread on it.

Algae that converts CO2 into biodiesel?

Next terrorist plot- drop disinfectant onto the nation's powerplants.

I like how they missed the massive bit about it requiring the input of energy for this to work. Sorry guys, it's not that simple

[QUOTE=download;40055257]I like how they missed the massive bit about it requiring the input of energy for this to work. Sorry guys, it's not that simple[/QUOTE] The bacteria is photosynthetic (or at least the article implies it), and the fermentation process is supposed to be a lot more efficient than it is for plant-derived biofuels. I'd say we should wait for a real application of this before judging it too much.

[QUOTE=download;40055257]I like how they missed the massive bit about it requiring the input of energy for this to work. Sorry guys, it's not that simple[/QUOTE] That's like saying scum in your toilet requires electricity to work. [QUOTE]Basically, what we have done is create a microorganism that does with carbon dioxide exactly what plants do—absorb it and generate something useful[/QUOTE] Dem ninjas.

[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;40055315]The bacteria is photosynthetic (or at least the article implies it), and the fermentation process is supposed to be a lot more efficient than it is for plant-derived biofuels. I'd say we should wait for a real application of this before judging it too much.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ScottyWired;40055324]That's like saying scum in your toilet requires electricity to work. Dem ninjas.[/QUOTE] Wow, you guys are idiots. That is an energy input

[QUOTE=download;40055337]Wow, you guys are idiots. That is an energy input[/QUOTE] Then why did you bother commenting if we already understood?

[QUOTE=download;40055337]Wow, you guys are idiots. That is an energy input[/QUOTE] No one is claiming this to be free energy. If it was, the headline wouldn't be about fuel, it would be "all energy problems solved forever thanks to wizard and magic bacteria". I just assumed you meant energy input by humans required to produce fuel. Energy from the sun is as close as you can get to free for now, and it adds zero cost to fuel production.

[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;40055369]No one is claiming this to be free energy. If it was, the headline wouldn't be about fuel, it would be "all energy problems solved forever thanks to wizard and magic bacteria". I just assumed you meant energy input by humans required to produce fuel. Energy from the sun is as close as you can get to free for now, and it adds zero cost to fuel production.[/QUOTE] Because what was quoted doesn't mention anywhere that there is more to it then getting CO2 and making fuel? " I just assumed you meant energy input by humans required to produce fuel." Uhh, what? That sounds incredibly stupid [QUOTE=ScottyWired;40055348]Then why did you bother commenting if we already understood?[/QUOTE] Because you showed no understand of it?

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;40054912] How is this late? It was published yesterday by my time, nobody seems to have created a thread on it.[/QUOTE] It's not so much that the article itself is late, but using bacteria to produce fuel from CO2 is really old news. [url]http://web.mit.edu/press/2012/genetically-modified-organism-can-turn-carbon-dioxide-into-fuel.html[/url]

[QUOTE=download;40055387] " I just assumed you meant energy input by humans required to produce fuel." Uhh, what? That sounds incredibly stupid [/QUOTE] That makes perfect sense. [I]He assumed that[/I] [B]you implied the bacteria required man-made energy[/B], in order to produce fuel.

[QUOTE=download;40055387]Because what was quoted doesn't mention anywhere that there is more to it then getting CO2 and making fuel? " I just assumed you meant energy input by humans required to produce fuel." Uhh, what? That sounds incredibly stupid[/QUOTE] What is your problem? You're just being argumentative and ornery for no reason. Also, you really should just read the article. There's more to it than the little bit he was allowed to quote, and if you had, you would understand why I assumed you meant input from humans, since it spends a lot of time talking about photosynthesis.

[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;40055369]No one is claiming this to be free energy. If it was, the headline wouldn't be about fuel, it would be "all energy problems solved forever thanks to wizard and magic bacteria". I just assumed you meant energy input by humans required to produce fuel. Energy from the sun is as close as you can get to free for now, and it adds zero cost to fuel production.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/X7M9rh2.jpg[/img]

And then it was never heard of again

[QUOTE=demoguy08;40056266]And then it was never heard of again[/QUOTE] Because the big fuel companies assassinated the scientist.

[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;40055369]No one is claiming this to be free energy. If it was, the headline wouldn't be about fuel, it would be "all energy problems solved forever thanks to wizard and magic bacteria". I just assumed you meant energy input by humans required to produce fuel. Energy from the sun is as close as you can get to free for now, and it adds zero cost to fuel production.[/QUOTE] Yeeeeeeeaah nope. Producing solar panels is costly and when you go down the whole production tree, produces a hefty hefty amount of both really nasty toxic shit as well as common pollutants. You just don't know about that because it's China who gets to lick all that wonderful noxious cream out, for now, and all that gets to us are ~clean and green~ energy panels. Cleaner than coal and oil? Definitely, yeah, but definitely not without a cost of it's own. [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] Not that I would like to imply download isn't an idiot, just pointing it out.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;40056779]Yeeeeeeeaah nope. Producing solar panels is costly and when you go down the whole production tree, produces a hefty hefty amount of both really nasty toxic shit as well as common pollutants. You just don't know about that because it's China who gets to lick all that wonderful noxious cream out, for now, and all that gets to us are ~clean and green~ energy panels. Cleaner than coal and oil? Definitely, yeah, but definitely not without a cost of it's own. [/QUOTE] The energy itself is completely free. The means to harvest the energy, however, is costly. In oil and coal, you have to dig the energy out in the first place, which costs money.

[QUOTE=Riller;40056861]The energy itself is completely free. The means to harvest the energy, however, is costly. In oil and coal, you have to dig the energy out in the first place, which costs money.[/QUOTE] Yes, but in the end, it's all down to environment pollution and energy yield. And by the way, you have to keep on mind the space solar power plants take up. If you build them on roofs and parking lots and deserts then sure, but these idiots here in the Czech Republic turned several perfectly fine farming fields into solar power plants, which effectively "costs" you the fact you can't grow anything there. Even forest is good.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;40056779]Yeeeeeeeaah nope. Producing solar panels is costly and when you go down the whole production tree, produces a hefty hefty amount of both really nasty toxic shit as well as common pollutants. You just don't know about that because it's China who gets to lick all that wonderful noxious cream out, for now, and all that gets to us are ~clean and green~ energy panels. Cleaner than coal and oil? Definitely, yeah, but definitely not without a cost of it's own. [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] Not that I would like to imply download isn't an idiot, just pointing it out.[/QUOTE] This would not require man-made solar panels for the energy used to convert CO2 into what's fermented into fuel. The bacteria themselves would be photosynthetic, so they would act as their own solar panels, getting energy from the sun. I actually meant "free energy" in the zero-point sense, not the free beer sense, but I probably should've been more specific.

Fucking do it already.

[QUOTE=Yahnich;40054933]making fuels that cause co2 and global warming and then filter that shit out again[/QUOTE] Maybe we can stop Global warming and keep the conservatives happy with their compulsion to burn gases or fossil fuels.

[quote]The process is made possible by a unique microorganism called Pyrococcus furiosus, or "rushing fireball," which thrives by feeding on carbohydrates in the super-heated ocean waters near geothermal vents. By manipulating the organism's genetic material, Adams and his colleagues created a kind of P. furiosus that is capable of feeding at much lower temperatures on carbon dioxide.[/quote]

[QUOTE=demoguy08;40056266]And then it was never heard of again[/QUOTE] Kinda sick of these sorts of posts. Science takes time to produce viable results, even more so to apply those results to the consumer market. Chances are any minuscule advances in this field aren't going to be reported, let alone make it to SH.

[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1050992[/url] Reminds me of this thread i made.

[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;40056338]Because the big fuel companies assassinated the scientist.[/QUOTE] Big petro right the bro!! their teking over

[QUOTE=demoguy08;40056266]And then it was never heard of again[/QUOTE] All the "big breakthroughs" that are never heard of again don't go away because of a conspiracy, they go away because they weren't actually big breakthroughs. This is probably going to end up as one of these things, yes.