What to get rid of and what to keep? 1.5k Eur budget.
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Hey, I have spare 1.5k Eur to spend on PC but I am not sure what to get really.
Current specs:
CPU: AMD FX-8350
Motherboard: M5A97 R2.0 ASUS
GPU: GTX 970 Asus
Case: Unknown but shit.
PSU: 750W OCZ (4 years old)
RAM: 8 GB @ 1666
2x SSD @ 128GB.
1x HDD WD Black 1TB.
3 Monitors (1080p, 2560x1060, 1366x768)
Mouse: GIGABYTE M6900
Cooling: Corsair H100i
Keyboard: [URL="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PQ14GZS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00"]Cheap mechanical knock off.[/URL]
I am honestly not sure how to upgrade better, would I be better off selling current PC as a whole or sell specific parts?
What parts would you suggest?
Main usage of PC:
Games (CS GO, Witcher 3, Fallouts, all mainstream games)
3D Modelling (Powerful GPU needed)
Video Editing (Powerful GPU is a plus)
Right now, it seems my PC performance is capped by CPU, I am getting shitty performance from CPU.
I am getting shitty FPS in some games because of 2560x1080 resolution but I am sure it's not 970, it's CPU cap probably.
Any suggestions for a build that could handle all three tasks above very well and output at least 60 fps in all games solidly on 2560x1080?
Budget is around 1.5-2k, assuming I can sell my PC for at least solid 500 Eur, that's around 2-2.5k total.
Thank You.
P.S - While at it, any recommendations for keyboard mouse?
Keyboard must have numpad, standard keys for mute, volume etc.. The more the better, also mechanical only.
And mouse, must have kinda big, responsive etc.. and not have rubbery parts (it seems my current mouse keeps building up some dirt on sides all the time).
Why not just buy a new CPU and case?
[url]https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k[/url] (I've heard from literally everyone i7 is worthless if you only use your computer for gaming)
[url]https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk[/url] (Big case, pretty heavy for what I'm used to, but its done its job very well)
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;48344563]Why not just buy a new CPU and case?
[url]https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k[/url] (I've heard from literally everyone i7 is worthless if you only use your computer for gaming)
[url]https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk[/url] (Big case, pretty heavy for what I'm used to, but its done its job very well)[/QUOTE]
Is i5 good for video/3D?
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;48344563]Why not just buy a new CPU and case?
[url]https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k[/url] (I've heard from literally everyone i7 is worthless if you only use your computer for gaming)
[url]https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk[/url] (Big case, pretty heavy for what I'm used to, but its done its job very well)[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say useless anymore, more like diminishing returns. More and more games are heavily multithreaded and can take advantage of the extra threads. Not to mention, the obvious that if you do video editing/conversion, you will see benefits with an i7. However, you need to weigh the cost/benefit ratio yourself as it isn't truly 8 cores, so it won't be something ridiculous like a 2x performance boost. He needs a new motherboard regardless though
[QUOTE=arleitiss;48344640]Is i5 good for video/3D?[/QUOTE]
Hyperthreading will get you up to 30% boost for multithreaded applications.
Skylake is also due in four days if rumours are correct, so consider waiting for a week to see if a z170 platform would suit you. Rumours say they're decent overclockers.
As for performance in games, the 21:9 could be deserving of a second 970, but the i5 will work wonders for single threaded games.
When video editing doubling your ram is going to give a noticeable boost in render speed and in previews, so maybe consider getting extra.
Your priorities should be, I think:
skylake i5 + z170 motherboard
16gb ram
New psu + second 970 for sli.
If you have worries about dual gpu support, selling the 970 and picking up a 980 ti should be a option
[QUOTE=eurocracy;48346710]Hyperthreading will get you up to 30% boost for multithreaded applications.
Skylake is also due in four days if rumours are correct, so consider waiting for a week to see if a z170 platform would suit you. Rumours say they're decent overclockers.
As for performance in games, the 21:9 could be deserving of a second 970, but the i5 will work wonders for single threaded games.
When video editing doubling your ram is going to give a noticeable boost in render speed and in previews, so maybe consider getting extra.
Your priorities should be, I think:
skylake i5 + z170 motherboard
16gb ram
New psu + second 970 for sli.
If you have worries about dual gpu support, selling the 970 and picking up a 980 ti should be a option[/QUOTE]
What about getting SLI 980ti?
Yeah I am considering upgrade right now, so I will definetely wait for skylake.
You're not gonna need double 980 Ti's for 2560x1080 now or anytime soon (unless you want to use DSR).
On your budget, you can probably afford one 980 Ti + Skylake i7 and motherboard + extra RAM.
Video editing and 3D work definitely benefit from a quadcore with hyperthreading. And games that don't, but require a lot of CPU power are becoming increasingly rare, given current-gen console CPUs.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;48346955]You're not gonna need double 980 Ti's for 2560x1080 now or anytime soon (unless you want to use DSR).
On your budget, you can probably afford one 980 Ti + Skylake i7 and motherboard + extra RAM.
Video editing and 3D work definitely benefit from a quadcore with hyperthreading. And games that don't, but require a lot of CPU power are becoming increasingly rare, given current-gen console CPUs.[/QUOTE]
My current FX 8350 is alright at 3D because it utilizes 8 cores but it really fucks game performance, so finding balance between games =/= work load would be great.
Would I need to change PSU?
Your PSU is more than powerful enough for any single-GPU gaming PC. And if anything, you should be using [I]less[/I] power after moving away from AMD FX.
There's not much you need to consider regarding balance. Typically graphics/video work asks for more RAM, CPU power and more/faster storage, whereas for gaming you'd rather put that money towards a GPU - but since your software is GPU-accelerated that rule isn't quite as strong and you have enough money to have it all so it doesn't really matter.
Haswell i5's already beat the FX-8350 at damn near everything, including what you're doing, in case that wasn't clear.
Going crazy with something like a hexacore/octacore CPU or SLI 980 Ti's is of course possible (and would warrant a heavier power supply) but it's past diminishing returns and out of your budget anyway.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;48347337]Your PSU is more than powerful enough for any single-GPU gaming PC. And if anything, you should be using [I]less[/I] power after moving away from AMD FX.
There's not much you need to consider regarding balance. Typically graphics/video work asks for more RAM, CPU power and more/faster storage, whereas for gaming you'd rather put that money towards a GPU - but since your software is GPU-accelerated that rule isn't quite as strong and you have enough money to have it all so it doesn't really matter.
Haswell i5's already beat the FX-8350 at damn near everything, including what you're doing, in case that wasn't clear.
Going crazy with something like a hexacore/octacore CPU or SLI 980 Ti's is of course possible (and would warrant a heavier power supply) but it's past diminishing returns and out of your budget anyway.[/QUOTE]
Well, okay I guess I will wait for skylake cpu's and might replace 970 with 980ti.
Any suggestion for keyboard/mouse?
The thing is, I never had any decent mouse or keyboard, always budget ones so the only thing I know is that razer holds some market for those but have no idea about models.
[QUOTE=arleitiss;48347373]Well, okay I guess I will wait for skylake cpu's and might replace 970 with 980ti.
Any suggestion for keyboard/mouse?
The thing is, I never had any decent mouse or keyboard, always budget ones so the only thing I know is that razer holds some market for those but have no idea about models.[/QUOTE]
DAS keyboards have those dedicated buttons. The Zowie EC2 is a great mouse that's on the bigger side, dunno if its got rubber though.
[QUOTE=Levelog;48348653]DAS keyboards have those dedicated buttons. The Zowie EC2 is a great mouse that's on the bigger side, dunno if its got rubber though.[/QUOTE]
Is DAS one of those keyboard brands that make keys with no letters/numbers?
[QUOTE=arleitiss;48348742]Is DAS one of those keyboard brands that make keys with no letters/numbers?[/QUOTE]
They do have a keyboard with blank keycaps, but not all are like that.
As for mice, go to your local store and try some out. A large part of the choice is shape after all, and what shape you prefer is entirely subjective.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;48349317]As for mice, go to your local store and try some out. A large part of the choice is shape after all, and what shape you prefer is entirely subjective.[/QUOTE]
Definitelty. I would just install a tiling WM if all I had to use was a claw grip mouse
Been looking at DAS keyboards, they look amazing, especially the ones with blank caps. Gonna go for that.
Now will decide on mouse.
The problem is I can't go to shop and check out mouses, Ireland is not popular unfortunately for PC gaming stuff, so most things you find are just generic USB keyboards that are overpriced.
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