French rally in Paris asking for a new constitution and protesting against the governement's current - Polidicks

[quote]PARIS (AP) - Tens of thousands of supporters of leftist parties are marching through central Paris to express disappointment with President Francois Hollande's first year in power, criticizing the leader for reneging on his promises to rein in the world of finance and enact economic stimulus.[/quote] [URL]http://www.wsav.com/story/22164584/thousands-of-leftists-protest-hollandes-1st-year[/URL] Apparently there's 180 000 people in the streets right now. [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJgWO5mCQAAvJRz.jpg:large[/IMG] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJgqT-5CMAIXmj7.jpg:large[/t] [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJf7-y3CcAEctzX.jpg:large[/img] "You've thrived enough, let them all fuck off"

How did Hollande fuck up so bad holy shit

[QUOTE=smurfy;40536298]How did Hollande fuck up so bad holy shit[/QUOTE] No charisma and very little impact in what he has to say and what he does, if I wasn't reminded on TV constantly, I'd forget he's our president now.

[QUOTE=smurfy;40536298]How did Hollande fuck up so bad holy shit[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://backalleymedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/sarkozy.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Wiggles;40536341][IMG]http://backalleymedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/sarkozy.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] He was equally terrible.

To be honest France isn't the only country in Europe with economic problems. Something really has to be done, or these fools we call our leaders will run us all into the ground.

[QUOTE=smurfy;40536298]How did Hollande fuck up so bad holy shit[/QUOTE] He was elected thanks to the far-left and ecologist voters. As soon as he was asked to do what he promised those voters, he flipped them off. Which resulted in Mélenchon becoming more and more lousy over the months. Exactly a year after Hollande became President, he has done pretty much nothing good aside from gay marriage and even people of his own party are starting to question him. He lacks charisma, he cheated on the people who voted for him and his governement is made of idiots. He was pretty much voted in to ensure who voted out Sarkozy. Now we're getting someone from the left applying Sarkozy's righty politics to the letter if not worse, people are pretty pissed. I know a lot of friends from the Mouvement des Jeunesses Socialistes ( the party's official group of young supporters) being absolutely disgusted by Hollande, the Cahuzac affair was the last hit needed for them to just leave and join the far-left.

French Revolution V2: Baguette Boogaloo

-snip, my automeeeerge-

If I were him, I would fall back to the bastille

-bad reading-

[QUOTE=Bliblixe;40536400]He was elected thanks to the far-left and ecologist voters. As soon as he was asked to do what he promised those voters, he flipped them off. Which resulted in Mélenchon becoming more and more lousy over the months. Exactly a year after Hollande became President, he has done pretty much nothing good aside from gay marriage and even people of his own party are starting to question him. He lacks charisma, he cheated on the people who voted for him and his governement is made of idiots. He was pretty much voted in to ensure who voted out Sarkozy. Now we're getting someone from the left applying Sarkozy's righty politics to the letter if not worse, people are pretty pissed. I know a lot of friends from the Mouvement des Jeunesses Socialistes ( the party's official group of young supporters) being absolutely disgusted by Hollande, the Cahuzac affair was the last hit needed for them to just leave and join the far-left.[/QUOTE] Is it at all possible that maybe he is doing it because he recognised that perhaps his policies that he promised would not have been effective or possible in the current climate?

MONSIEUR WHAT DO WE DO We send in....Max

[QUOTE=Thom12255;40536791]Is it at all possible that maybe he is doing it because he recognised that perhaps his policies that he promised would not have been effective or possible in the current climate?[/QUOTE] Yep, most definitly, but instead of choosing stricter lefty measures, they just decided to go for righty ones. Which is basicly betraying those who voted for your program.

I thought this was gonna be right-wingers protesting about the gay marriage thing.

[QUOTE=Scot;40536995]I thought this was gonna be right-wingers protesting about the gay marriage thing.[/QUOTE] There was an anti-gay marriage rally aswell. They were way less than this left wing one tho, 15000 persons in Paris, 15000 in Lyon. [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJguhPoCAAEsj0L.jpg:large[/img]

Will it be worse the Iraq?

Hollande simply promised too much. He promised to balance the budget while hiring new teachers and raising taxes and spending??? Reality hit him like a brick to the face. The only thing of note I have heard him do is get Gay Marriage to pass, which is honestly really great... but that took a year with a double Socialist Majority. Anyway, Melenchon is sounding better every day, despite his policies and ideals being even less realistic than those of Hollande.

I was mad when it wasn't this [IMG]http://www.automobilsport.com/uploads/_neustart/Oktober5-2011/Mathieu%20Arzeno%20Rallye%20de%20France%20Alsace.jpg[/IMG] Anyway; what is their problem with the constitution itself?

I TOLD YOU NIGGAS. CHEMINADE FOR 2017. FUCK THE SYSTEM.

History sure does like to repeat itself.

[QUOTE=Thom12255;40536791]Is it at all possible that maybe he is doing it because he recognised that perhaps his policies that he promised would not have been effective or possible in the current climate?[/QUOTE] If you get elected because you made certain promises, then you have two options. You can deliver on those promises, or you better be real damn good at explaining to the people who voted for you the changing climate that makes those promises obsolete. Lots of times even if it is true that circumstances have changed, the people won't care since the previous promise was probably a lot more acceptable than whatever new deal you're proposing will be. This is why it's important to make sure you never make a promise you can't deliver.

[QUOTE=smurfy;40536298]How did Hollande fuck up so bad holy shit[/QUOTE] "Cause he's socialist duh!" -fox news

[QUOTE=smurfy;40536298]How did Hollande fuck up so bad holy shit[/QUOTE] Because the "socialist" thing is a complete sham?

Bring out the guillotines.

[QUOTE=Riller;40537078]Anyway; what is their problem with the constitution itself?[/QUOTE] Got to make a little histoire course to understand where the problem is. We've had 5 different republics (republican constitutions from scratch, we've also had a consulate and empire, but that's irrelevant). [B]We're on the fifth right now[/B] which was [B]ordered in 1958 by De Gaulle[/B]. Indeed, the 4th Republic (1946 - 1958) was unstable. Governements kept coming in and were either forced to resign or were blocked by the parliament. The President was elected by the parliament, which resulted in him being less legitimate and important than the parliament itself. Just so you have an idea of how bad shit was back then, a [B]governement stayed in function for an average of 6 months[/B] before they resigned. Then the Algeria crisis showed up and with such an unstable system with unbalanced powers between the executive and parliament, everything just blew up, the people screamed for the return of De Gaulle. He accepted at one condition : to scrap the 4th republic and move on to a 5th Republic he'd order. This is how our current system was born. Long story short here's [B]how it works[/B] : -President of the Republic is elected using direct universal suffrage for seven years and can have as many mandates as he wants [I]he has lots and lots of powers, yet doesn't have any political responsibility, he can't be fired and can't be prosecuted for his crimes during his mandates unless it's high treason[/I] -Bicameral parliament (two chambers) : National Assembly and the Senate -MPs of the National Assembly and Senators (of the senate, duh) are elected using direct universal suffrage [highlight]Then, in 2002 [/highlight], we modified the constitution so the President's mandate only lasts five years and the parliamentaries are elected a month after the President has been elected. This results in the parliament almost always having the same majority of the President's party, giving more strenght to the governement. At last, in 2008, Sarkozy limited the President's mandate to 2 maximum. Now the President has shitload of powers (much more than the parliament, the executive is able to legiferate and push laws). Before that, if he fucked up, he'd always have the fear to not be reelected, no matter if it's the first, second or third mandate, now this is not the case anymore. So yeah, what Mélenchon and his followers (including people not from his party just willing to drop the fifth republic) want is to scrap a system made by De Gaulle for De Gaulle, which is basicly now a monarchy. Except you elect your king. He wants a Republic where the parliament would be scrapped and replaced by something else such as a chamber which would debate laws and would have to send referendums to the people, a less overpowered President (if there's still a President), and more local powers so the citizens would be closer than ever to their representatives. In other word, [b]we want a true democracy.[/b]

The french have made several fantastic rally and revolutionary songs, I don't understand why they don't sing them more often during demonstrations. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZowiT5ZyRs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g[/media]

Sounds like they're Bourbon sympathizers, a whiff of grapeshot will do them some good. [I]I'm sorry for anyone who understands the reference :([/I]