No charges for Utah cops who shot man holding cosplay sword six times in back - Polidicks

Source: [url]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/no-charges-for-utah-cops-who-shot-man-holding-cosplay-sword-six-times-in-back/#.VIGtXpZ-QLh.twitter[/url] Somehow, this doesn't surprise me.

Well no shit it doesn't surprise you he had a fucking sword

also he was black that probably didn't help steps to not get shot by cops: 1) be white if 1 fails, try step 1a 1a) do not carry a giant fuckoff sword 1b) don't be black [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=usaokay;46665126]Steps unclear. I'm Asian. Please excuse me while I go off to eat baked fish with rice while doing my math homework; all while seeing everything with cinematic black bars.[/QUOTE] refer to 1b

[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46665111]also he was black that probably didn't help steps to not get shot by cops: 1) be white if 1 fails, try step 1a 1a) do not carry a giant fuckoff sword 1b) don't be black[/QUOTE] 1c) dont swing a sword around armed officers 1d) dont actually carry a real sword in cosplay

Why the hell would you shoot the guy in the back? There's no excuse for that.

[quote]Susan Hunt, who is white, has said she believes police killed her son because he was black.[/quote] This is the new thing, isnt it.

[QUOTE=Korova;46665196]Why the hell would you shoot the guy in the back? There's no excuse for that.[/QUOTE] What if the sword-wielder in question is charging towards a group of innocent women and children? [editline]7th December 2014[/editline] and men

[QUOTE=Apache249;46665213]What if the sword-wielder in question is charging towards a group of innocent women and children? [editline]7th December 2014[/editline] and men[/QUOTE] Can't shoot him in the leg and restrain him? These aren't exactly amateurs.

[QUOTE=Korova;46665216]Can't shoot him in the leg and restrain him? These aren't exactly amateurs.[/QUOTE] As it's been said in almost every fucking thread about cops here, shooting someone in the leg is a really fucking shitty takedown method. Not only are you risking killing them, you're risking permanent disability, when there's better options.

[QUOTE=Korova;46665216]Can't shoot him in the leg and restrain him? These aren't exactly amateurs.[/QUOTE] Massive blood loss because arteries bla bla bla end argument

[QUOTE=Korova;46665216]Can't shoot him in the leg and restrain him? These aren't exactly amateurs.[/QUOTE] Lets shoot a moving target that is roughly 4-6 inches wide, from standing, while you try to determine if someone is going to attempt to kill you or other, all within the space of half a second.

[QUOTE=Korova;46665216]Can't shoot him in the leg and restrain him? These aren't exactly amateurs.[/QUOTE] Shooting a person in the leg with a pistol is a very difficult thing to do even if the target isn't moving. Also, the leg has several arteries, so shooting someone in the leg would probably lead to a slow, painful death by bleeding out. Not exactly the 'non-lethal' option everyone seems to think of it as.

[quote]One witness said Hunt appeared to move his hands “like he was laughing” and spoke with one officer for up to 60 seconds before swinging the sword “very hard” at the second officer, who had just pulled up in a squad car.[/quote] i'm confused because this [I]sounds[/I] like he was attacking the cops HOWEVER [quote]But that witness told KUTV-TV last week that the affidavit misrepresented his statement to police and that he saw Hunt unsheathe the sword – but he did not swing it.[/quote] this coupled with him talking to the cops makes it seem like he was showing them the sword not trying to murder them plus if he was hacking at the cops as this 37 second engaugment suggests... [quote]“I reread the state’s autopsy this morning. Every one of the six shots came from behind.”[/quote] and this [quote]Prosecutors are considering misdemeanor charges against Susan Hunt, his mother, following an Oct. 19 confrontation with police near the shooting site.[/quote] is just tasteless, and senseless, and i hope to god they don't try to charge her for being upset at the cops

[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46665111]also he was black that probably didn't help steps to not get shot by cops: 1) be white if 1 fails, try step 1a 1a) do not carry a giant fuckoff sword 1b) don't be black[/QUOTE] Instructions unclear. Dick got caught in a ceiling fan.

[QUOTE=Sableye;46665244]i'm confused because this [I]sounds[/I] like he was attacking the cops HOWEVER this coupled with him talking to the cops makes it seem like he was showing them the sword not trying to murder them plus if he was hacking at the cops as this 37 second engaugment suggests... and this is just tasteless, and senseless, and i hope to god they don't try to charge her for being upset at the cops[/QUOTE] Why would you wield ANY sort of weapon near an ARMED police officer?

[QUOTE=Toyhobo;46665149]1c) dont swing a sword around armed officers 1d) dont actually carry a real sword in cosplay[/QUOTE] does it even matter anymore? cops aren't going to take the time to determine if you have a real weapon or a fake plastic block, they're going to pull up and open fire because of "public safety", its pretty evident that we're training cops the wrong way anymore especially when the people who make the calls usually tell the operator that they think its a fake weapon [editline]7th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=bisousbisous;46665247]Why would you wield ANY sort of weapon near an ARMED police officer?[/QUOTE] like i said, from the events it seems like, cop 1 approaches the guy, talks to him, he pulls the sword out to show cop 1 as cop 2 pulls up and cop 2 shoots him, cop 1 shoots more of him

If there were video recording devices attached to these officers that recorded the whole incident, then I doubt there would be any speculation if the officers were justified in shooting him based off of these witness reports. Now idk if he had a mental illness or issues of some other sort, but it seems to me that there was a lot more than just talking to a cop andthen swinging at him and just start hauling ass while they attempt to take him down. Buutttt if there were video cameras recording what happened, people would forsure know what really was the facts.

How come where there's always a major case that involves the possibility of racial issues, there's always some confusion or some shit . Is the media trying to make it more suspicious than it already is? [quote]One witness said Hunt appeared to move his hands “like he was laughing” and spoke with one officer for up to 60 seconds before swinging the sword “very hard” at the second officer, who had just pulled up in a squad car. The county attorney read from an affidavit by a second witness, who told investigators “the guy appeared to be laughing and smiling and then pulled out the sword and took a swipe at the interviewing officer and began to run.” [B]But that witness told KUTV-TV last week that the affidavit misrepresented his statement to police and that he saw Hunt unsheathe the sword – but he did not swing it.[/B][/quote] [url]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/no-charges-for-utah-cops-who-shot-man-holding-cosplay-sword-six-times-in-back/#.VIGtXpZ-QLh.twitter[/url] [quote]Robert Sykes, Susan Hunt's attorney, said he hadn't talked to his client about the allegations, but noted, [B]"It's suspicious that they would do something like this at this moment."[/B] Sykes said from what little he knows about the case, two Saratoga Springs officers had stopped another person for an unknown issue when Hunt apparently came across them and "apparently got into it" with them. Sykes did not know if Hunt actually slapped an officer as has been rumored. [B]"(Police) are under a lot of pressure and they're doing everything they can to try and justify that (shooting), including blackening Susan," Sykes said.[/B][/quote] [url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865614424/Mom-of-Darrien-Hunt-being-investigated-in-confrontation-with-police.html[/url]

Every shot was in the back. Regardless of what may or may not have happened first, fleeing from the police does not currently carry the death penalty. It's barely justifiable if the suspect has a firearm. It is indefensible when the suspect has a toy sword. At this point, I'm pretty much incapable of taking anything police say at face value without something to back it up. This country has obvious and systemic problems with police accountability for shootings.

[QUOTE=Korova;46665216]Can't shoot him in the leg and restrain him? These aren't exactly amateurs.[/QUOTE] imagine unironically believing in "shoot them in the leg"

Oh I remember this. I also remember the massive shitstorm that ensued because you guys couldn't stop squabbling. Wasn't he seen running in the general direction of the cop with the sword on CCTV or some shit before he got turned into swiss cheese? I swear the general conclusion was that his decision was a VERY poor idea.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46665346]How come where there's always a major case that involves the possibility of racial issues, there's always some confusion or some shit . Is the media trying to make it more suspicious than it already is? [url]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/no-charges-for-utah-cops-who-shot-man-holding-cosplay-sword-six-times-in-back/#.VIGtXpZ-QLh.twitter[/url] [url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865614424/Mom-of-Darrien-Hunt-being-investigated-in-confrontation-with-police.html[/url][/QUOTE] because ambiguously making these types of cases as a racial matter nets them more views/more money.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46665353]Every shot was in the back. Regardless of what may or may not have happened first, fleeing from the police does not currently carry the death penalty. It's barely justifiable if the suspect has a firearm. It is indefensible when the suspect has a toy sword. At this point, I'm pretty much incapable of taking anything police say at face value without something to back it up. This country has obvious and systemic problems with police accountability for shootings.[/QUOTE] And you have obvious and systemic problem with shit posting and you believe somehow the police aren't going to shoot a dude with a sword running at people.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46665353]Every shot was in the back. Regardless of what may or may not have happened first, fleeing from the police does not currently carry the death penalty. It's barely justifiable if the suspect has a firearm. It is indefensible when the suspect has a toy sword. At this point, I'm pretty much incapable of taking anything police say at face value without something to back it up. This country has obvious and systemic problems with police accountability for shootings.[/QUOTE] The argument given by police was that they were scared that he was going to kill the first person he saw

[QUOTE=pentium;46665378]Oh I remember this. I also remember the massive shitstorm that ensued because you guys couldn't stop squabbling. Wasn't he seen running in the general direction of the cop with the sword on CCTV or some shit before he got turned into swiss cheese? I swear the general conclusion was that his decision was a VERY poor idea.[/QUOTE] I would concur that swinging a sword at officers is a poor decision

[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;46665379]because ambiguously making these types of cases as a racial matter nets them more views/more money.[/QUOTE] Except the network isn't saying it, it's the attorney and some witness.

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[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46665396]The argument given by police was that they were scared that he was going to kill the first person he saw[/QUOTE] Based on...? A few seconds of whatever their interaction was, and their own personal biases. [editline]8th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46665388]And you have obvious and system readings with shit posting and you believe somehow the police aren't going to shoot a dude with a sword running at people.[/QUOTE] Running at who? He was running for his life FROM men with guns who were actively trying to kill him.

[QUOTE=Korova;46665216]Can't shoot him in the leg and restrain him? These aren't exactly amateurs.[/QUOTE] [quote=CNN]shot six times, including once in the back. The other gunshot wounds were to his upper right arm and right forearm, left upper arm, and two wounds to the left hip.[/quote] Is that good enough for you?