EA executive responds to “worst company” poll: “We owe gamers better performance.” - Polidicks

[img]http://thecpl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ea-logo.png[/img] [quote]Surprisingly, though, Peter Moore, EA’s chief operating officer, offered up a rebuttal on a corporate blog on Friday afternoon. There, he argued that because EA is high-profile, it draws a lot of negative attention. Or, put in a slightly folksier way: “The tallest trees catch the most wind.”[/quote] Some highlights from their list of "Illegitimate complaints" [quote]... • Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong. • Some people think that free-to-play games and micro-transactions are a pox on gaming. Tens of millions more are playing and loving those games. ... [/quote] [url=http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/ea-executive-responds-to-worst-company-poll-we-owe-gamers-better-performance/]Rest of the article[/url] While I agree that some complaints are really not viable, the only reason there are 45 million users on Origin is because of their aggressive policy toward exclusives for it. Doesn't seem that fair.

this is why EA winning the worst company poll is so funny. they're the only company that gives a shit about it for some reason

[QUOTE=TheHydra;40178166]this is why EA winning the worst company poll is so funny. they're the only company that gives a shit about it for some reason[/QUOTE] gee i wonder why.

[quote=A manipulative cunt] In the past year, we have received thousands of emails and postcards protesting against EA for allowing players to create LGBT characters in our games. This week, we’re seeing posts on conservative web sites urging people to protest our LGBT policy by voting EA the Worst Company in America. That last one is particularly telling. If that’s what makes us the worst company, bring it on. Because we're not caving on that.[/quote] holy shit what a fucking scumbag. he's literally using their "support" of the LGBT community to say "if you hate us you're a homophobe!". what a sneaky, manipulative asshole.

[QUOTE]Tens of millions more are playing and[B] loving [/B]those games[/QUOTE] Yeah sure

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178223]He's not saying that at all, you're just being another dumbass that blindly hates everything EA does.[/QUOTE] no that's exactly what he's saying. he equated the whole push to vote them as the worst company with some weird conservative homophobes. please point to me what part of this line [quote=A raving dickhead]That last one is particularly telling. If that’s what makes us the worst company, bring it on. Because we're not caving on that.[/quote] does not imply that

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178280]I see that reading comprehension is not your strong suit, he's not saying everyone that hates EA is homophobic, he's saying if your only reason for hating EA is because of their LGBT support that you can fuck off.[/QUOTE] and he also implies that the majority of people voting them in the poll are like that by making it the crux of his counter-argument. "That last one is particularly telling." what could this sentence mean other than "See the kind of people who are voting for us?" it's douchey at best, manipulative at worst

[QUOTE=Kefirman] While I agree that some complaints are really not viable, the only reason there are 45 million users on Origin is because of their aggressive policy toward exclusives for it. Doesn't seem that fair.[/QUOTE] It's not like Steam doesn't have exclusive titles on it.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178280]News flash: They actually have received negative attention from conversation shit heads for supporting gays, just like every other company that supports gays.[/QUOTE] the distinction is that EA has addressed it in a really shitty way here

I don't think they realize that the only reason a lot of people sign up for Origin is because they have no other way to play EA's games, since they aren't on Steam

[QUOTE=Novangel;40178320]It's not like Steam doesn't have exclusive titles on it.[/QUOTE] b-b-but origin isnt m-made by v-valve

[QUOTE=Doomish;40178362]I don't think they realize that the only reason a lot of people sign up for Origin is because they have no other way to play EA's games, since they aren't on Steam[/QUOTE] Considering this is how Steam rose to power you can't use it against them without calling Valve out at the same time. For reals, they are both guilty of it, Valve maybe more so as Steam sucked way harder in the beginning.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178389]How so? All he said was that EA won't stop supporting LGBT.[/QUOTE] It sort of implies that the reason they're a shitty company is because people dislike their LGBT policies. Which seems like complete bullshit to me. "They hate us because our stance on LGBT!" Gamers are a fairly open-minded group of people so I doubt they hate EA because they support LGBT. Gamers hate EA because EA fucks them over time and time again. Hardly manipulative though. It sounds like ignorance, but then again I have no idea what conservative groups are attacking EA.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;40178394]Considering this is how Steam rose to power you can't use it against them without calling Valve out at the same time. For reals, they are both guilty of it, Valve maybe more so as Steam sucked way harder in the beginning.[/QUOTE] I think it's more the principle of the thing. Whatever Valve may have been some years ago, it's the best-loved company in video gaming today, and for very good reason. Its priority is and always has been making innovative, enjoyable games that not only push the boundaries of what is possible, but also create entirely new genres. Take Portal, for instance. Their Source engine is a modder's paradise, and still holds up quite well even against newer game engines. What's EA, by comparison? In recent years, rather than evolving into a more benign company, they've gotten greedier and greedier, using the most petty tactics they can to rake in cash, and they've started making all their games deliberately unmoddable. Community-created content? Bah. Let's make them pay exorbitantly for substandard, half-assed additions.

Fuck EA for the above reasons. [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] You bastard, you broke my automerge ;_;

[QUOTE=hexpunK;40178394]Considering this is how Steam rose to power you can't use it against them without calling Valve out at the same time. For reals, they are both guilty of it, Valve maybe more so as Steam sucked way harder in the beginning.[/QUOTE] Everyone remembers how bad steam was like, 6 years ago. It was horrendous. But unlike EA, valve actually cares about their consumers. Besides, it's not like there's anybody but GOG running against them, in reality Valve is one of the only people actually releasing Video games for the PC in a digital form.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178389]How so? All he said was that EA won't stop supporting LGBT.[/QUOTE] so the point about homophobic conservative blogs was last on the list. and petey said "That last one is particularly telling.", referring to it, the last item on the list. now describing something as "telling" often means it is indicative of something, and based on the context of its usage, that definitely seems to be the case here. adding the adjective "particularly" only strengthens the indicative-ness of whatever is telling. so now: what is being indicated? that conservative blogs are calling people to action because of EA's LGBT support? no, they already plainly stated that. that would be redundant. let's give peter more credit than that. everything else in that statement seems to be indicated by its presence in the statement, so it must be more subtle. he's implying something beyond what was already said. based on the list which is addressing the apparent mass amount of "invalid" complaints they've received from people, i think it's reasonable to assume that he is saying the homophobia was extremely indicative of the types of arguments they were receiving and by extension the people sending them, moreso than any other entry on the list, or else he wouldn't have assigned special treatment to it. he then follows it up with "If that’s what makes us the worst company, bring it on. ", addressing it as if it were the main point against EA, which compounds the effect of what he implied. the ultimate point derived from these statements is a slimy sort of "You really want to be on THESE guys' sides? Come on." which is kind of awful considering he's using their LGBT support as a weapon to deliver that point. that's how they addressed it in a really shitty way.

I have a hunch, and I want to see if I'm right. Is Valve on the stock market?

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178509]No, Valve is a private company.[/QUOTE] Bingo. And EA isn't. [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] And that is why EA can never hold a candle to Valve.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;40178501]that's how they addressed it in a really shitty way.[/QUOTE] You are reading way too much into it. It's but one point in their entire post, not the end-all-be-all. The wording was a bit bad, but I'm glad they boasted their stance on it. I just think they should focus on other aspects of their company that are bringing them down than worrying about political squabble.

[QUOTE=jalb;40178563]You are reading way too much into it. It's but one point in their entire post, not the end-all-be-all. The wording was a bit bad, but I'm glad they boasted their stance on it. I just think they should focus on other aspects of their company that are bringing them down than worrying about political squabble.[/QUOTE] it was the conclusion though. the conclusion is the end-all-be-all. he boiled the whole thing down to bigotry in a very obtuse way

[QUOTE=TheHydra;40178586]it was the conclusion though.[/QUOTE] this isnt an essay the same points could be made without that last line in there

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178588]There are plenty of amazing companies out there that are public, I don't see your point. I'll name a few. Rockstar, Bethesda, and Ubisoft (in some cases).[/QUOTE] I disagree with Ubisoft. As for Rockstar and Bethesda, they still stick with tried and tested formulae as a rule. Any company with investors is always beholden to those investors. And investors don't give a shit about innovation, they want the company to make games that'll sell to give them bigger dividends.

[QUOTE=jalb;40178596]this isnt an essay the same points could be made without that last line in there[/QUOTE] if they did make the points without that last line then i wouldn't have as much of a problem. it completely alters the tone of the whole thing. if he had gone with something like "We have a duty to provide the best possible services to our customers, and part of that duty is choosing which criticisms to listen to and which to ignore. We find that these are contrary to the well-being of our company and our products." i would've said "yeah ok whatever"

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178659]Besides making Assassin's Creed a yearly series, what has Ubisoft done wrong? They publicly acknowledged that always on DRM is an awful idea and turned it off on all their games, that's a pretty amazing move for a company as big as Ubisoft. No Rockstar and Bethesda don't do that at all what are you smoking, you do realize Bethesda published Dishonored right? And that Rockstar is breaking their own fucking formula by making GTA V have 3 protagonists, and making & supporting games like LA Noire and Read Dead Redemption. Just because a company has investors doesn't mean they hate innovation, Nintendo pretty much always had investors and they've made some of the most innovative games of all time.[/QUOTE] I didn't know Ubisoft backed up on DRM. What's Uplay if not DRM?

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40178697]Uplay is their awful attempt at Steam and nothing like their previous iteration of DRM, they used to require a 24/7 internet connection to play their PC games, they disabled it after all the negative feed back.[/QUOTE] I guess that's proof that *some* companies can learn from their mistakes. [editline]6th April 2013[/editline] But where Rockstar is concerned, I can't really excuse them for their Games for Windows Live DRM. That's the most broken shit that exists out there.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;40178186]holy shit what a fucking scumbag. he's literally using their "support" of the LGBT community to say "if you hate us you're a homophobe!". what a sneaky, manipulative asshole.[/QUOTE] Didn't they have bots fill comments with support on their page announcing their pledge to LGBT friendliness? I remember one of the comments was named like, Jim from North Korea. [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] found it [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/WKcB2.jpg[/img_thumb]

We hate EA for a specific reason, and the reason is their actions that we has a whole do not like. They support the DRM, that gamers who witness and saw the diseaster among other games like ubisoft's Assassin's Creed 2, Silent hunter 4, and other titles that require this drm. After the mass of the people hated ubisoft for it, and probably cause them to lose tremedious amount of sales, they decided to drop it, and release an update to remove it. Ever since our future releases such as assassin's creed 3, far cry 3, and other games out there, ubisoft no longer spout out any evil bullshit. The only evil bullshit that been sprewing is none other then EA, because of how they ruin 5 of their top title games, with a huge interest. People love the mass effect games, but not after mass effect 2 and 3 with the outrageous cost of DLC and a horrible ending, people think twice about it. Dead Space 3 with micro transaction to purchase things in the game? nobody even want to touch that because it's play 2 win, and nobody likes play 2 win, just look at APB, and your battlefield 2 F2P bullshit. Now your local slaves of bioware made a star wars the old republic, but you rushed the living hell out them, and end up being a titanic, sinking faster then the original, with no end-game content, your "wow killer" end up being killed before it even grab that blaster. This is why you hate you so much, that to the point that we wish that EA officially close down for good. Your games become more shitty and more expensive, at this rate, it be Always Online DRM, with limited installation games that cost 100 bucks plus 15 bucks a month to pay for server cost on a single-player game, and it will takes 4 hours to beaten the game, no end-game contant, lots of micro-transaction that weapons in that cost 30 bucks.

[QUOTE=archangel125;40178707] But where Rockstar is concerned, I can't really excuse them for their Games for Windows Live DRM. That's the most broken shit that exists out there.[/QUOTE] They stopped using GFWL ages ago. Now they use steam and their Social Club thing, which I haven't had any issues with.

[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;40178794]Didn't they have bots fill comments with support on their page announcing their pledge to LGBT friendliness? I remember one of the comments was named like, Jim from North Korea. [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] found it [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/WKcB2.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] "Dear Electronic Arts (EA) Im Not GAY D:< but i support what u kidz r doing :D just dont let them dress as girls ._. cause that be really weird xD MAY the Force be with you young one D:" someone was paid to write this