Just realized their JJ Abrams looks much more like James Gunn
That bit with the wine was so simple but goddamned if it wasn't the funniest part of the entire video.
It’s a toss up between that and the bit where his penis gets ripped off by his cat for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4Ss5bK-ws
Wow, that really subverted my expectations. I thought he was going to pour the wine in the glass.
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Rian Johnson on Twitter
*Kathleen Kennedy teleports behind Johnson with a pink slip*
Heh.... nothing personal kid
Man, my opinion of this dude has totally plummeted since TLJ came out. Like, I didn't envy him in the slightest, and his attitude seemed to reflect that; he was tasked with making a new Star Wars movie, I can't even imagine the level of pressure. Everything leading up to release made it look like he was trying his hardest and really hoped people would like what he made. But ever since it came out he's just totally disassociated and gone full Paul Feig.
"Oh, you don't like my movie? Maybe leave your mom's basement sometime you manbaby virgin lol I don't even care look how much I don't care your criticism doesn't hurt at all haha nopenopenope."
Like, even George Lucas had the humility to admit he'd "gone too far in a few places" when it comes to the prequels, but it feels like Rian has just latched onto the idea that anyone who doesn't blindly praise TLJ just isn't enlightened enough to appreciate it. I can't blame him for not wanting to engage with critics considering how awful people have been to him and the cast, but he wants to have his cake and eat it too; criticism isn't allowed unless it only has nice things to say, but he's free to defend his movie and tweet out jabs at Star Wars fans all he wants.
The fact that he's basically saying "yeah I loved those RLM guys until they said my movie was "not a mess, but definitely messy", so now fuck them I don't care they clearly don't know what they're talking about" makes him look tremendously fragile and insecure in what he's made.
Why should he care? He already knows they disliked the movie, why subject himself to an hour of Mike going into detail about it, especially when it’s pretty critical of his writing and decisions?
His opinion on RLM went from "I love those guys" to "ugh yikes like honestly don't even care" in less than a year, presumably all because they weren't among the critics who showered TLJ with praise for being a "daring and brave deconstruction", and that says a lot about how he handles criticism, is all I'm saying.
It's not like their HitB or Plinkett videos about the movie relied on the "NOT MUH LUKE, WHY WIMMIN IN MUH STAR WARS, REEEEEEEEE WHITE GENOCIIIIIDE" shit you usually see, it was actual constructive criticism with actual thought behind it, so him lumping both parties together under "didn't say nice things about my movie" makes him look like a child who can't handle non-positive feedback and/or bants.
god this is embarrassing lol
So much has been said about the movie by so many people that at some point, you just have to let it go. The Plinkett review for The Last Jedi has come at an awkward time because there really is so little that you can say about the movie that hasn't been said before, something that RML straight up acknowledges. Rian Johnson has had 8 months of non-stop criticism, constructive and otherwise and from people pushing and pulling from all directions.
Rian, why are you like this?
A year of people being massive wank stains to you can do that to a person.
that plinkett review was a fucking embarrassment lmao
the parts where he edited very straightforward exchanges to make them seem convoluted said it all really. maybe he's realised his initial takes on the film were shallow and not really founded on anything, maybe he's just not a very deep thinker, but jesus christ. if you have to ask why the very obvious nazi stand-ins are portrayed as angry and unhinged, you might need to look out your window before you do anymore media analysis
The original trilogy didn't have any trouble showing the obvious nazi stand-ins as not angry and unhinged.
To play devil's advocate, I think the reasoning is that the first order is made from the most fanatical and obsessive followers of the empire, so naturally they're more "passionate"
Though I agree it makes them seem more bumbling than menacing.
It would make them more menacing if they seemed capable of any sort method other than overwhelming force brought about by inexplictably endless funds. Daleks are fanatic and obsessive
monsters but they've been an icon of fear rather than a parody for years.
Have we ever seen what the First Order do to people and places other than immediately wipe them out? In A New Hope they at least investigated around Mos Eisley and attacked only the most remote areas where they believed the droids to be. In Empire Strikes Back it's implied they would take over operations of the mining in Bespin rather than just blow up Cloud City. Now I've not
see TLJ, but I did see TFA and I can't remember any instances of anyone talking about any form of governing done by the First Order whether it's future plans or current administration. A New Hope had Tarkin mention the dissolution of the Senate and regional governers now answering to the Empire so we know they do SOMETHING when it comes to being an Empire but the First
Order just blows things up because said thing say "no" to... something? As hamfisted of writing as villians go, The Empire is far and away more competantly portrayed as a dominant force that is unpopular enough for people to rebel, the First Order just blow things up around the plot and have a lot of ships that hound our characters about because they are the protagonists.
It feel like the OG Empire was inspired by actual WW2 Nazis while the First Order is inspired by white frat bros with tiki torches """Nazis""", which would really explain why they come off as so laughably nonthreatening. The Empire was a vast and all-powerful totalitarian military force, whereas the First Order feels more like a parody with how over-the-top they are. I don't know what it is with so many modern movies (especially Disney movies) where they just can't bring themselves to make a villain who is both legitimately evil and intimidating, but also endearing and multi-layered, WITHOUT falling into the Loki trap of just making them funny and/or a loser.
The only part of the First Order that works unironically well is Kylo Ren (because Adam Driver is a really good actor) and, to a lesser extent, Hux (because I like slimy posh military officers, and also Domnhall Gleeson is a really good actor). Honestly, the bit where Hux made like he was gonna just shoot Ren in the back of the head Old Yeller style made me like him ten times more than any amount of your mama jokes and wacky facial expressions ever could have.
was based off the US government. The uniforms were based off ww2 germans.
In the original trilogy? I remember the prequels having a ton of metaphors for the Bush administration and the war on terror, but this is the first I'm hearing of the OT Empire being based off of the US. I always assumed Nazis, considering the uniforms, use of the term "stormtroopers", and all the WW2 footage they recreated for the dogfights.
E.T.
The nazis probably weren't angry and unhinged, that's just how we've parodied them. The original trilogy had officers that where genuinely menacing and calculating and actually made you feel scared for the rebels, compare that to the nazi parodies we have now it all all feels way too over the top.
Please correct me if the nazis actually where just screaming at each other all the time, it's hard to research their mental states
Nope, was a metaphor good ol tricky dick.
yeah Lucas heavily based the OT Empire on what the US could potentially come if Richard Nixon was left unchecked. He had done American Graffiti, was supposed to make Apocalypse Now, and then started work on Star Wars. In his head at least, they were originally intended as a loosely held together trilogy of Vietnam inspired stories. Before Vietnam, during Vietnam, and an anlogoy for a post-Vietnam War world. For example, while filming ROTJ, Lucas straight up asked Ian McDiarmid if the Emperor's Throne Room reminded him of the Oval Office. Another example is that Lucas went on state in the 2004 DVD Commentary that he based the Ewoks off of the Viet Cong.
Lucas has also stated: "A lot of my interest in Apocalypse Now carried over into Star Wars.”
That's not to say of course that there aren't other influences in the Empire's design, but story wise he felt that the Empire was a "Big technological Empire" going against a band of "freedom fighters" like the U.S. in Vietnam.
I mean yeah, they're so similar. Makes perfect sense.
I think the biggest thing they nailed in this review that made me dissapointed, was the whole kylo and rey relationship. The idea of the Sith and Jedi being broken down, and a new order of force users was so awesome to me. Seeing that not follow through just made the whole tension between them (Which was arguably the most interesting part of the film) irrelevant.
