Honestly, I love Jodi's costume but I'm not sure how I feel about the earring... thing.
here's my pitch for something that I think would be super awesome:
the stenza are built up as the season villain the entire way through culminating in possibly the penultimate episode or just the finale where they show up and wreck shit
suddenly, bam, the daleks show up and destroy them and they're the secret final villain of the series
if done correctly it could establish the daleks as a proper threat again as well as being a sick as hell fake out imo
I didn't even notice it.
Is anyone else a little worried about how 13 is going to develop? She's really bright, cheery and has this indomitable, childlike spirit. I can't see that being kept up forever but it'd be awful to see her lose it.
nah man, that wouldn't be satisfying at all. what could maybe work is if the stenza were built up as a big ol' villain, before the carpet was pulled out from under us and some kind of villain we never saw coming but made perfect sense in hindsight was revealed to be behind a bunch of things, like, tim shaw's hunt, the ghost monument race, and all the things that come afterwards, etc etc, all or some are orchestrated by some kinda unifying force or whatever, and we're like "oh shit that makes sense"
but what would be even better is if that didn't happen, and the finale was the culmination of a story about the doctor and her companions that made us feel emotionally involved and genuinely invested in the survival of all parties, and said parties relationships with one another
Doctor Who already did the story of building up a big villains before revealing it was the Daleks all along.
They did it back when there were the ghost people appearing all over the world who turned out to be Cybermen from Pete's World and they had an ancient space ship with them. It's built up for ages that it's going to be a Cyber Controller or an army of Cybermen. Then it finally open up and BAM 4 black Daleks, it's the Cult of Skaro, and they;ve got another ship filled with millions of Daleks read to fuck up Earth.
I think the mistake is believing you can't have both
except that wasn't really a subversion of expectation so much as it was an escalation, the idea with the doomsday two parter was "oh shit the cybermen have crossed over and have already begun the assimilation process without the humans of this reality even knowing an invasion is even taking place" -- before revealing that, oh shit, not only is this world-wide invasion already halfway finished, but four fucking daleks are here to wreck shit as well
both would be so friccin good. i wish we could have both. if we had both i'd be so happy.
however, ...
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Yeah, I didn't mean that they were the same, just that the general idea has already been done.
That and the Daleks just need to rest for a while IMO. You can do literally anything with Doctor Who and too often the showrunners fall back on "Oh no, it's the Daleks and/or Cybermen!" acting as though they're a super huge threat even though they always get defeated in the span of one episode (or very rarely two).
quick recap
me: daleks in the finale would be kinda rubbish. it'd be cool if the last couple of episodes were a subversion of what is generally expected from a doctor who finale
you: in doomsday, the second finale of nu who, the cybermen were built up as the big bad guys, and then the daleks appeared, and it was a surprise
me: you're right the daleks were in doomsday, but what if it wasn't the daleks, and there was a surprising twist that shocked everyone at the end
you: piss off daleks
me, right now: ???
I love it. It’s a nice little detail. And you KNOW they’re gonna use it at some point as some weird time lord tech.
Made a Facepunch Doctor who Discord with @Xonax (Who wanted me to mention they created the server icon).
Feel free to join https://discord.gg/dj5fVgZ especially in case the forums die again.
u jerk i wanted you to post the server icon since i put effort into it
forget it, the moment is ruined.
I'd like it more if it were just earrings, the chain is what makes me dislike it.
It's never too late, show us the pic in all it's glory
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/486/d2c5ae18-3ac8-4a85-b042-929d5b8a569d/FPDW.png
It's shit I know :v
I saw a comment on a review saying the score was more Gold-esque this week and I can completely see what they mean now
God they love playing Rosa's theme (it is pretty good to be fair)
What a mature episode. Didn't feel like Doctor Who at all outside of the sci-fi stuff. So glad they didn't shy away from the harsh reality. Quality historical episode.
Wet villain aside, I thought that was really well handled. We all enjoyed it. The sort of stuff Doctor Who should be doing every now and then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lriTKNQlH5s
I fucking hate spiders.
I used to be massively arachnophobic but I curbed that fear pretty hard over the past few months - what a good time to do it because next ep looks fuckin horrific
Really enjoyed the episode. Glad they didn't shy away from the racism angle.
That epsiode gave me fuckin CHILLS. It was so good
Great episode, made me uncomfortable in all of the right ways. Really glad they didn't pull any punches with this one.
I still find it hard to believe the antagonist is a [spoiler]racist from the 79th century, even motivated enough to go back in time and sabotage one of the most pivotal events in human history. All because he hates black people.[/spoiler]
yeah man you're exactly right, it's definitely ridiculous that someone from the future would believe that white skin makes you better than people without white skin. just like it's ridiculous that someone would believe that vaccines are bad, or that planets are flat, or that etc etc you get the point
alternatively: in a series where someone travels about in space and time in a police box that's bigger on the inside than the outside, the most out-there concept is definitely that "someone in the future is racist"
etc
friendly reminder that by the 79th century ""dancing"" with aliens was perfectly normal. Some preachy dialogue, a forgettable villain and that godawful song at the end were really the only bad things about this episode.
I love that Rosa isn't portrayed as this larger-than-life hero, but instead a normal person just trying to live their life. I haven't studied the US Civil Rights movement before (although I'd like to after this) but seeing her and MLK as ordinary people was really nice. Graham is a great character and 13 continues to be fantastic, and this is pretty easily the best episode of the season so far.
The stupidest part is that it isn't even that pivotal, the idea that civil rights would just never happen if Rosa Parks didn't sit on the bus on that particular day is ridiculous. Honestly wasn't much of a fan of it, it could have been good but Malorie Blackman is fucking terrible at doing anything with nuance, the characters didn't feel like people and just acted as civil rights facts dispensers.
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