Future 'A Star Wars Story' Spinoffs on Hold at Lucasfilm
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Tomb Raider the game. It sold 4 million units in two months, which is a really good number, but Square Enix said they were disappointed in its sales.
Okay now I really don't understand why it came up in a thread about Star Wars and the box office. You gotta understand why I'd think we're referring to the film though, Tomb Raider's game reboot came out years ago and the movie one just a couple months, and we're talking about movies
We need a new Star Wars film every 6 months though. How will we recover?
"Remember how the Tomb Raider reboot was a failure according to the publisher? These companies chronically overestimate sales numbers, as far as they're concerned if it doesn't break multiple records it was a waste."
"These companies"
Square isn't a movie company though?
Oh, but you forget
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/final-fantasy-the-spirits-within_5436.jpg
Besides Sony/Columbia being the box office distributor, the 95+ million dollar losses are why they don't try anymore.
Hell, maybe they overspent on the TR game too.
Big budget publishers as a whole overestimate sales, this applies to both film and video games. They think more money spent on marketing will always directly lead to more revenue brought in with little regard for diminishing return. This is getting especially bad for Disney right now because they're simply releasing movies in too rapid succession for them all to make the kind of money the publisher wants. There's a finite amount of people with a finite amount of money and time, not everyone can see every movie in theaters. Disney is in a particularly awkward position right now because due to the amount of franchises and films they're juggling, they're essentially competing with themselves.
It's irrelevant though, even if they spent nothing on advertising this would still be a failure. Between US, UK, China, and Australia they still haven't hit the production budget.
Rogue One and TLJ both made more in the 3 weekends than Solo.
Rogue One and TLJ made more than Solo's 3 weekends in their opening weekends alone.
It also has nothing to do with overestimating.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=studioest&yr=2018&wknd=21&p=.htm
The studio estimate is a million less than it actually made.
I don't think Solo is at fault here.
What plotholes are you talking about?
I wouldn't say Solo was a good movie, but after TLJ and how badly that turned out, it has somewhat bought back a bit of my enjoyment of Star Wars - there wasn't anything i thought was outright bad about it. It was still a disappointing unnecessary movie that didn't need to get made and added pretty much nothing of value to Star Wars a whole, but it was certainly better than i was expecting, especially after TLJ.
They wanted to do what Marvel did with the early MCU and test the waters with a less wanted project before moving onto bigger, more immediately desired projects that they would need to get perfect.
Like, the MCU started out with some B-list hero no one really cared about and was kind of awful in the comics and the movie adaptation was so successful it redefined the character and opened the doors for a lot more stuff. It's a working system that tells you exactly whether it's a worthwhile attempt or something that needs to die off early and if they could not manage to make one of those films without pleasing the audience and without a slew of technical difficulties then perhaps none of them deserved being made.
https://makingstarwars.net/2018/06/rumor-mos-eisley-spaceport-film-postponed-obi-wan-and-fett-live/
So apparently Obi Wan and Boba Fett might not be canceled. In fact, apparently the only movie that is canceled for sure is, I kid you not, Mos Eisley Spaceport: A Star Wars Story. You heard me right: a fucking Star Wars spinoff about the cantina town.
Seriously, what the fuck is going on over at Lucasfilm?
Literally only interested in the Boba Fett movie. Even if deep down I know it's not going to be any good.
Don't get me wrong I love star wars, I think every one of the new films has been pretty good (solo was okay).
I can even enjoy the prequels from nostalgic point of view- the world-building is pretty neat and I can fast forward through the god awful boring as fuck ~relationship drama~ and ~political intrigue~ scenes.
But as someone said earlier in the thread I doubt we would ever get a film that just had Boba Fett wandering around the galactic underworld fucking shooting people for money for two hours.
Honestly that would have been kind of interesting. Treat it like an in universe documentary film.
'Multiple films' still in 'Star Wars' pipeline, sources say
Lucasfilm sources on Thursday characterized as "inaccurate" a report that future "Star Wars" movies falling outside of the regular trilogy storyline (Episodes I to IX) have been put on hold in the wake of the box office under-performance of "Solo: A Star Wars Story."
Instead, Lucasfilm told ABC News there are still "multiple" Star Wars films currently in development that have not been officially announced. Those projects are moving forward separate from an already-announced "Star Wars" trilogy being overseen by "The Last Jedi" director Rian Johnson and another series of movies from "Game of Thrones" producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.
Lucasfilm is not yet talking publicly about the subject of any unannounced "Star Wars" films or their expected release dates. Fans will just have to wait and see.
The only way I would even consider going to it is if it was just a full length version of Troops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6K6ETASu1E&feature=youtu.be
The Mos Eisley anthology film will just be a 2 1/2 hour version of this.
the major plot hole of "why don't we just send 3 ships ahead of them" plothole, the "why don't we tell these panic striken rebels that we do have a plan and aren't all going to die pointlessly" hole, the "they won't pay attention to a large convoy of troop carriers fleeing from the big ship" plothole, oh and the biggest one, the "somehow our pissy little transports are faster than the uberfast heavy corvette" plot hole which their whole plan hinged on even though the big ship was pretty much at maximum thrust as stated and could outrun virtually everything the empire had
With the context of your post I assumed you meant Solo had plot holes, not simply TLJ - that had bigger problems than just plot holes. I don't think TLJ was a good movie - in terms of production values, acting, appereance etc then yes, but i think in every other way it's worse than the prequels were. The prequels for all their faults at least tried to do things like world building and cared that they were part of a franchise, TLJ does none of that and ends up feeling like a filler episode. The prequels were something that should have been a good idea but ended up being pretty badly quality-wise, while TLJ is the opposite - a bad idea at its core but it's masked over by it's higher quality. I consider the latter the worse of the two.
eh the prequels are just bad, Lucas decided to take everything that was great about the old movies and flush it away and do the whole thing in greenscreen. plus the scripts were a nightmare to write, they didn't even have them done until they were actually filming
I genuinely don't understand this dislike for Rian Johnson. Why?
Attack of the clones is an absolutely abysmal trainwreck of a film and actually one of the worst cinematic experiences the AAA cinema industry has ever put up, what are you talking about.
The "scale of the war" is complete bullshit and thrown off by the fact it's utterly nonsensical and violates what the Jedi are meant to be to the point of bringing them from knowledgeable peacekeepers and monks bent on peaceful defense and deflection of violence to footsoldiers and commandeering warlords.
TLJ wasn't a good movie in my opinion, but the prequels were still worse.
The prequels aren't by any extent good movies , but the reason they aren't good is an entirely different reason to that of TLJ, one that i think is more forgivable to an extent. The prequels were full of bad acting, bad/overuse of CGI, strange dialogue and characters and were overall a mess, whereas TLJ undermines Star Wars as a whole with a negative approach to the previous movie it's meant to follow on from, the characters it uses, the direction of the plot and the overall lack of care to be Star wars and lack of effort to achieve something that is worthwhile, fits in and feels satisfying. It basically goes "Look, we're subverting expectations, that automatically means this is a good idea!".
So yes, the prequels are terrible movies, but the ideas they had weren't an issue at their core (outside of say, something like Jar Jar), they were just for the most part realized poorly. In comparison, TLJ is a bad idea that's just made to a high standard. It's a more enjoyable movie to watch, but when you consider it beyond that, it's worse. The prequels introduced all sorts of characters, locations, events, weapons, backstory, concepts and expanded the Star Wars franchise in a huge way. They cared that they were part of the a franchise a lot more than TLJ does, and for that i consider them better.
They were cloaked from standard sweeps, pretty much invisible until the FO was told about them.
not really a plothole tbh.
Blamed for TLJ
Because thematic random schizophrenia is a noncompelling movie style. This film contains people yuck yuck puns and people being literally blown into chunks or forcibly asphyxiated in the same scene.
It is literally Star Wars the Millenial there must be no serious scene omg everything too edgy Injoke edition, and most of it is going to age about as well as blue milk left out in the Tatooine sun(s).
Star Wars is a literal mythic drama, and the irony is what they fired Miller and Lord for in Solo is exactly what occurred in their main series, and it probably had a contextual place in Solo; it sure as hell doesn't in a main trilogy.
The humor in TFA was context appropriate, and the story followed a logical progression, if having forced recursive beats. TLJ is a schizoid jumble of three movies sandwiched together for no raisin.
I have no problem with Rian getting his own trilogy, but it's pretty clear he should not have been "the guy" for the middle act of a zeitgeist defining reemergence.
You can take chances, you can flip the script, but you have to do it by paying attention to the WHY of the core series and themes thereof.
Voltron of all things, on the many japanese borrowings of SW, on Netflix gets this is spades, and is frankly as hammy as it is far better than the last two star wars at this point, because it contains characters with actual arcs and point for point subversion of expected outcomes while keeping what made a show about magic laser space lions watchable at all.
TLJ is a hot mess at best.
"I don't think a shit movie is at fault here"
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