Marvel Cinematic Universe thread: Worse numbering than IMs suits edition
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It's contained in a way that depending on how well it turns out they can shove it into MCU canon without much or any reiterations being made. It's Sony's, but there's an ever so slight chance it can become MCU similar to how they're flirting with the idea of just taking Deadpool as is
How to be worse than people who clap during movies 1/1
WOW STOP HAVING FUN AND LIKING MOVIES WAHHH
Ah! You American savages are always behind us Italians in every possible field.
Here in Italy you have people talking aloud in the theatre for the whole run of the movie, people checking their phone constantly with the highest screen brightness setting available and, rarely, pack of teenagers doing both and also initiating food fights with the pop-corns they are supposed to eat.
Really guys, clapping inside the theatre every once in a while during a screening isn't such a big deal
In my theater I wasn't able to reserve the seat I wanted (it wasn't taken but kept saying invalid, I assumed it was broken) and got the one next to it but just before the movie started a couple sat down there and the chick that sat in that seat and her boyfriend were annoying as shit
boyfriend kept waving his feet like a kid with ADHD with his bright shoes (recliner seats so you can see them, had a dude do this at TLJ too), she kept playing on her phone during critical moments, nearing the climax she started loudly ruffling through her purse and pulled out gum that she chewed seemingly as loud as she could, and on top of this they talked a lot.
Why do you spend $12 to see a movie and just play on facebook the entire time? Why choose seats in the best viewing row to do it? Why insist on chewing gum smacking it intentionally louder than film volume?
The strangers and bathrooms are my two biggest reasons I'm looking forward to companies doing home viewing for new releases
I don't tend to cheer in movies, but when Thor landed in Wakanda in Infinity War I could help but let out a, "Yeah!"
What i think of Venom (Spoiler heavy so be warned):
It's okay, but has some pacing issues, it feels very rushed and the script could've used a rewrite to flow better. The first half of the movie is really slow, like, holy shit you're 40 minutes in and Eddie Brock still has to get the symbiote. After that all the world building and character development collapses: Riot gets introduced in basically two minutes and only appears in three scenes: introduction / the axe-slash scene you see in the trailer, and the final fight (which you also see in the trailer). Same can be said for the Eddie-Symbiote bond, Eddie doesn't want to bond with it, and after the forest scene he's like "Alright let's go kick Riot's ass". The final fight is very short, there's no buildup to it to the point that it feels like you've only reached half of the movie. Riot is gone in a matter of 10 minutes.
So what are the redeeming qualities? Well, Venom himself is pretty well done, the CGI is convincing and the character acts the way you would expect to. They've also managed to give him a
convincing origin story even without Spiderman, so props for that. I'd say this saves the movie for me because the character is very entertaining to watch,. There are also some references for the fans (A brief She-Venom appearance, Eddie Brock buying chocolate at the end). And holy shit that Cletus Kasady at the end is perfect!
In the end, with a proper script the character would really shine, and i wouldn't mind to see him included in the MCU (Maybe they could also lend Sony their directors to make some MCU tier movies?)
Enjoyable film, nothing more than that. High hopes for the sequel.
I'm eager to see a director's/extended or even unrated cut, because you can tell something must've happened in the missing 40 minutes Hardy talked about. Venom's changed mind about earth doesn't feel earned
im not usually into that shit either, but i was at a midnight showing and when this happened everyone was wooping and leaping out of their chairs. that sounds annoying but man if it wasnt a great collective moment of enjoyment and i guess thats what the cinema is about right
This is actually the third reason I want home viewing on release to become a thing, movie length won’t be a big deal when they don’t have to fit it for multiple showings.
Venom wasn't absolute trash that I feared it was, but it definitely needed something more to make it a good film.
I felt the whole thing was far, far too rushed. Felt like a bullet train with no stops and fast-forward to the end too quickly with little to no character development, especially for the unmemorable villain.
What few humorous moments in the film there were I felt were very well placed and scripted, however. Totally unlike MCU movies.
Wrong thread?
Tom Hardy said 40 minutes were pulled, his favorite parts. I’m thinking it’s what it needed to not feel sped through
something something they went for action scenes over character development?
Eddie gets a lot of character development, but Venom very quickly changes his mind about stuff without feeling earned. I'm thinking those scenes were cut, and it might've had action in them too because by the time we get there Venom's already been fighting SWAT teams.
Doesn't detract much but it almost stands out especially when you already know that there's 40 minutes removed
I guess that means Spiderman will be leaving the MCU soon then.
I'm a bit confused as to how this happened
no lol
Tell that to Amy Pascall
Why would they ever do that? The Marvel deal is ludicrously beneficial for Sony to the point where Marvel is honestly at their whim in some ways (considering Spider-Man is being built up as a significant post Avengers 4 character but Sony could just pull him at any time). All Sony has to do to make money off Spider-Man is let Marvel not fuck up, and they can just keep making spin-offs, and if those spin-offs work they can crossover Spider-Man for extra oomph if they want.
It'd be stupid as shit to just yank him out when it would only hurt them.
Funny because Amy Pascal specifically wants Venom to be integrated to the MCU, not remove Holland from it
Her and Feige had meetings for a long time before higher ups at the different companies allowed the sharing to happen.
Never doubt Sony's ability to mess things up
I'd honestly be more concerned by the fact that Pascal was actually fired by Sony in 2015 and that she's actually working for her own company that has a short contract to be backed by Sony. I think it only lasts like 4 years.
Pascal's already playing nice with Feige, what's going to happen if her replacement is more boneheaded than she was?
Hoping Disney's ironclad lawyers have this secure already.
We still don't know the specifics of their deal - maybe it's timed, maybe it's until Sony wants to go do their own thing and shit the bed again - who knows?
Finally found more info, wikipedia's citations only talked about the first part of the sentence they were placed on so I was having trouble
Without question, Ms. Pascal got a running start as a producer. Her Sony exit package, worth as much as $40 million over four years, gave her dibs on some of the studio’s biggest projects, including “Spider-Man: Homecoming.” Sony also pays Pascal Pictures an additional $9 million annually for overhead costs and discretionary script acquisition — the kind of rich deal that has largely vanished in a cost-conscious Hollywood.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/business/media/amy-pascal-sony-pictures.html
Ms. Pascal’s exit deal, among the richest in Hollywood history, will guarantee her income of $30 million to $40 million over four years, according to people briefed on its terms. Her package also includes a percentage of profits on movies she produces and roughly $9 million annually for office costs and discretionary acquisition of scripts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/business/media/amy-pascal-to-work-on-sonys-spider-man-team.html?module=inline
So it sounds like her Sony contract will end in 2019 around the time Far from Home releases.
I'm reading a Tom Rothman took up her position when she was fired, so maybe the power will divert to him after the contract?
Oh god.
I just hope if it is him that he keeps the attitude of deferring creative control to marvel studios, and that he doesn't act like he did at Fox
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